Incoherent frothing at the mouthStalin and MacArthur. You’ve just given half the posters here an aneurism.
Incoherent frothing at the mouthStalin and MacArthur. You’ve just given half the posters here an aneurism.
This is plausible I thinkStalin and MacArthur. You’ve just given half the posters here an aneurism.
What if Moscow is firebombed like the US firebombed Dresden. The Soviets suffer heavy losses Stalin and the remaining military leaders realize they need American help. In this timeline Douglas MacArthur is appointed to military advisor to Russia instead of Philippines like in our timeline. MacArthur who flees the Soviet Union after the German invasion said "I shall return". Once the Soviets asked for US assistance MacArthur and 5000 troops were dispatched with supplies to aid the struggling Soviet Union from collapsing. MacArthur on why he was in the Soviet Union later stated "The Nazis were trapped in the Russian winter with dwindling supplies, the Nazis were busy fighting us on the Land sea and air and it was my job to exhaust and exasperate the Nazi war machine while the Western front chipped its way to Berlin". MacArthur was there in a more advisory role to the Soviet effort, US troops who were Russian speaking were sent since very few Soviet soldiers spoke English.
This is plausible I think
Perhaps Stalin's purges were worse in this timeline and he had no competent military thinkers to call on. That was a typo it was supposed to be 50,000Highly implausible.
1. If Germany can produce sufficient bombers to reduce Moscow, it is unlikely for it to have the capacity to build sufficient army equipment and fighters, which would hamper Nazi operation on land.
2. It does not make sense to send Macarthur, a old Asia/ Pacific hand, to Russia and it is likely Mac AND Marshall would object to such plan strongly.
Also, why the hell would USA send military advisor to a major power that ideologically was very different and had their own vibrant military thinkers? WTH can USA teach USSR? Naval stuff that the Soviets did not need too much? The US Army in the 1930s was much smaller and technically inferior to the Soviet Army.
3. If, in a very unlikely unevent, USSR request deployment US troops deployment, 5000 is just a figure too low. At the very least a corps would have to be deployed to make such aid meaningful and the logisitics would be very difficult to manage.
This is not the ASB sub fora and handwavism is not condusive to good discussion.
Perhaps Stalin's purges were worse in this timeline and he had no competent military thinkers to call on. That was a typo it was supposed to be 50,000
Soviets lose Stalingrad and retreat, the British and Americans land where?
Indeed, the Brits had plans to deploy an Army Group into Iran to prevent them from flipping and to prevent the Germans from invading by moving said Army Group into the Caucasus.
The basis for this plan was underway. The establishment of the Persian Lend Lease route had a double purpose. It could just as easily been the port of entry and supply route for Allied armies in Iraq & Persia. The Brits had set up regional command HQ & skeleton field forces by way of sitting on the Iraqi & Persian governments. Had the Red Army on Caucasuss front actually collapsed the west Allies would have been building that skeleton into a couple army groups. Those would have included surviving Red Army soldiers who managed to escape the debacle.
Stalin and MacArthur. You’ve just given half the posters here an aneurism.
Perhaps Stalin's purges were worse in this timeline and he had no competent military thinkers to call on. That was a typo it was supposed to be 50,000
One of the issues is that even as late as 43 the US Army was quite short on deployable trained divisions
Deploy a trained division a year earlier than OTL and that’s 2 to 4 less divisions able to be deployed 1-2 years later
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... and even by late 44 some of those divisions were as green as grass and barely fit for combat ops ...
Plus maybe before the first winter offensive the Germans fall back a bit to a defensible line and the Soviets take more losses and the Germans take less than IOTL? Then Stalingrad campaign comes about and the Soviets are seriously on the ropes and in danger of collapseHave the Soviets lose Stalingrad?
Red Army forces was deployed in late August 1941 to invade and occupy Iran too, so there would be complete formations in Iran for regrouping.