US States in the Philippines

I've seen a couple of these threads before, but always in the Post-1900 section.

So, with a PoD any time after 1789 and before 1900, is it possible to have the Philippines in the United States, as 3 or more individual states?

Edit: The PoD can be any time between 1789 and 1900, so long as the Philippines ends up part of the US in 2014?

Second Edit: Just realized I wrote 1800 instead of 1900. My bad.
 
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I've seen a couple of these threads before, but always in the Post-1900 section.

So, with a PoD any time after 1789 and before 1800, is it possible to have the Philippines in the United States, as 3 or more individual states?
How on earth would the Philippines join the US during a time period when the US did not even have access to the Pacific?
 
Oops. I meant to say 1900, not 1800. And the PoD can be anytime after 1798, so long as the Philippines is part of the US by 2014.

The closest thing you can have is 1901.

Anything before that, US needs a reason to go to war vs Spain in Philippines, US also need to have access to Philippines and the Pacific which requires Pacific Island bases. US also needs to be more powerful than Spain.

So Spanish-American war is the best time to do it.

In OTL 1901+, Philippines had a possibility of becoming a US state. If the Federalista party won over the Nacionalista party, Philippines would have lobbied to become a US State.

The repercussions of Philippines becoming a US state becomes quite enormous. US can be considered an ASEAN Country. Philippines will become a developed country with lower population than OTL present day. With Philippines become a US state, there is a possibility that anything below it may become US states as well, Sabah, Celebes, etc, which they can take by force or buy in terms of cash. US also may get better concession from Japan like taking Taiwan after WW2. US economy and population is much larger than it is today.
 
The repercussions of Philippines becoming a US state becomes quite enormous. US can be considered an ASEAN Country. Philippines will become a developed country with lower population than OTL present day. With Philippines become a US state, there is a possibility that anything below it may become US states as well, Sabah, Celebes, etc, which they can take by force or buy in terms of cash. US also may get better concession from Japan like taking Taiwan after WW2. US economy and population is much larger than it is today.

But would Congress have granted the Philippines statehood? There would have been definite resistance to granting statehood to a territory with a non-white, non-English speaking population. (I know English is now fairly commonly spoken there, but it was not at the time.)
 
But would Congress have granted the Philippines statehood? There would have been definite resistance to granting statehood to a territory with a non-white, non-English speaking population. (I know English is now fairly commonly spoken there, but it was not at the time.)

The issue with race in the Philippines is it is a bit blurred. Anyone can market it as such, mix Hispanic or Hispanic with a non-white population or an Asian with Spanish race. The same can be also said with Hawaii but Hawaii had no Hispanics to blur the race with.
 
Prevent the Philippine Revolution while the Span-Am War still happens.

Good luck with that seesaw.

Preventing the Philippine revolution means Spain needs to prevent its degraded self from managing OTL Philippines. There is no way Spain would retain Philippines with a restless large local population.

In order to prevent Philippine Revolt, you must have a loyal local population which requires Spain managing it like OTL Britain managing Australia or Canada. By doing that, it means Spain would be at par with France or Britain at 1890s.

A powerful Spain and a loyal local population would mean a different Spanish-American war victor or the Spanish-American war would not happen at all due to US recognizing Spain's capabilities much like why Canada never fell to US, loyal local populace plus power Great power backer.
 
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