Except my POD is 1774. I figure if Quebec goes the Maritimes will go too.
Mainland NS (NB) maybe - if it's by conquest rather than rebellion St John's Island and the Nova Scotia peninsula are going to be pretty damn tough to crack.
Except my POD is 1774. I figure if Quebec goes the Maritimes will go too.
Mainland NS (NB) maybe - if it's by conquest rather than rebellion St John's Island and the Nova Scotia peninsula are going to be pretty damn tough to crack.
This is a map from my upcoming timeline which has yet to be named. The basic premise is that the Earl of Dartmouth dies during the debate of the Quebec Act in 1774. This POD prevents the Quebec Act from passing, disillusioning many in Quebec including Guy Carleton. Returning from observing the Russo-Turkish War of 1768-1774, Thomas Carleton stops in Ireland where he witness a Protestant/Catholic revolt, caused by yet another crop failure (via my handwavium and butterflies), and becomes greatly upset by the brutality English troops use. This further disillusions the Carleton brothers, who move their families to Quebec. In 1775 when Committee of Correspondence member John Brown comes up to Montreal he meets with both of the brothers. Eventually word of his presence and meeting reaches Thomas Jefferson in Virginia, who travels to Montreal to meet with Brown and the Carleton's.
Jefferson after a matter of weeks manages to convince the brothers to support the Patriot cause, which helps the cause spread through all of *Canada with the exception of Newfoundland.
The Revolution happens as per OTL with the exception that *Canada is secured by the Patriots. There are a few attempts to capture some of the Caribbean islands but these fail.
The Treaty of Paris happens per OTL, and the Articles of Confederation are set up. The Consitituional Convention does occur but with a twist George Washington is offered the Crown three time (Roman influence you see), but ITTL accepts grudgingly. Other ranks of peerage are setup in the British fashion.
While I know this is implausible and almost ASB, I am debating whether to put this in the ASB or pre-1900 section.
Since this post is long the map is to follow.
This is will be my first TL attempt so please be kind.
Instead of retyping my ideas I'll just quote them from the post where I laid the out.
Not uber-probable I know, but I want to take some creative license here, but still keep it realistic.
Which is why this as yet unnamed TL will most likely go into the ASB section.
It's got a couple of implausible bits, although if you trade out Washington for Hamilton you'd have to find somebody other than me to complain about that. Also, Carlton was Protestant Irish - the sympathy he had for the Canadiens could fit in a breadbox. In practical terms you're never going to get any of the colonial governors to support the rebellion anyways - for starters, none of them in the States did. Making the NSian middle class more amenable to the revolution has always struck me as the most plausible way of dragging Canada in.
As a Canadian, the only way I could see Canada peacefully joining the states would probably go something like this.
Keep the Federalists around and in power. This would probably avoid the war of 1812. Without the war of 1812 and the Federalists still in power, British-American relations improve quicker and the flood of American (non loyalist) settlers into Canada only continues to climb. This also removes one of our most important national creation myths, so Canadian nationalism is far lower but still existent.
Something akin to the 1837 rebellions happen, but the Americans don't intervene and the British still crush them, but like in OTL, this spurs Britain to give the colonies greater self government. Though Canada stays under British control for a while longer, at least one of the emerging political parties would become the pro-America annexation party, since many of this TL's Canadians just consider themselves Americans living in a future state(s).
Eventually, in the late 19th century, Britain and America sign some kind of big trade deal and alliance (since I would assume a more Federalist America would not be so isolationist) and the pro America party (probably this timelines Liberals) seizes this opportunity to make a referendum on American annexation. Britain gives the go ahead since they won't lose the market and won't have to pay for the defense of Canada. The referendum passes and many see this as a further sign of Anglo-American friendship.
That would be my rough idea on how it would happen.
Thank you, I was having this thread mainly to have help on a TL I'm writing and the Federalists stay in power in my TL.