It would be logistically difficult and bypassing the chain of commands, considering that the responsibility to free Dutch East Indies were fallen to the British and the American-Filipino-Mexican insistence of finishing off Japan first. Thus the Borneo Campaign was planned by the British Commonwealth from the east (mainly ANZAC forces) while the western British forces (mainly Indians) were stuck in the jungles of Burma.
Evenmore by the time the Borneo Campaign was concluded, Indonesia was already proclaimed its independence, the British from the west were preparing to secure Malaya and Allied PoWs from Java and Sumatra, and the Americans are busy at rebuilding the Philippines, Japan, Korea, and also helping the Chinese nationalists. MacArthur himself was preoccupied with the occupation of Japan and the US Marines were stationed at Philippines, Iwo Jima, and Okinawa, away from Indonesia.
I propose an earlier PoD in November 1943 when MacArthur drawn his plans to liberate the Malay Barrier. OTL, along with West Papua, he wanted to liberate the Philippines via the Moluccas. The PoD would be him decided to turn south and liberate Dutch East Indies
Going with your PoD, how would an eventual US-ANZAC invasion transpire? By 1945, there were 300k Japanese troops and about 60k Indonesian volunteers throughout the archipelago. If things go anything like OTL, PETA will eventually turn against their occupiers, which would be very convenient for Mac, less so for the Dutch.It would be logistically difficult and bypassing the chain of commands, considering that the responsibility to free Dutch East Indies were fallen to the British and the American-Filipino-Mexican insistence of finishing off Japan first. Thus the Borneo Campaign was planned by the British Commonwealth from the east (mainly ANZAC forces) while the western British forces (mainly Indians) were stuck in the jungles of Burma.
Evenmore by the time the Borneo Campaign was concluded, Indonesia was already proclaimed its independence, the British from the west were preparing to secure Malaya and Allied PoWs from Java and Sumatra, and the Americans are busy at rebuilding the Philippines, Japan, Korea, and also helping the Chinese nationalists. MacArthur himself was preoccupied with the occupation of Japan and the US Marines were stationed at Philippines, Iwo Jima, and Okinawa, away from Indonesia.
I propose an earlier PoD in November 1943 when MacArthur drawn his plans to liberate the Malay Barrier. OTL, along with West Papua, he wanted to liberate the Philippines via the Moluccas. The PoD would be him decided to turn south and liberate Dutch East Indies first.
None of whom were anywhere near the quality of, say, the men defending Iwo Jima. The Indies were hardly fortfied to that extent, either. I predict an Allied invasion force having an easier time of it than they did at Leyte and Luzon.By 1945, there were 300k Japanese troops and about 60k Indonesian volunteers throughout the archipelago.
So if the initial invasion goes more or less smoothly and the PETA uprising allows the Indonesians to establish a brittle alliance with the Allies, the Dutch can't really use the collaboration accusations as an excuse to restore the status quo.None of whom were anywhere near the quality of, say, the men defending Iwo Jima. The Indies were hardly fortfied to that extent, either. I predict an Allied invasion force having an easier time of it than they did at Leyte and Luzon.
The moment they lost Java to the Japanese, they should have already realised that things would never, ever be the same again.So if the initial invasion goes more or less smoothly and the PETA uprising allows the Indonesians to establish a brittle alliance with the Allies, the Dutch can't really use the collaboration accusations as an excuse to restore the status quo.
And they refused to accept that until the US threatened to pull Marshall plan money. Here, the situation is ironically worse for the Dutch, and they could very well be forced to begin negotiations for independence by 1946.The moment they lost Java to the Japanese, they should have already realised that things would never, ever be the same again.
Yep, unlike the uppity London Government or German collaborators at the Netherlands who believes that they still deserves Indonesia after the Japanese conquest, the acting Governor-General of the Indies since March 9th 1942, Hubertus Johannes van Mook, also believes that nothing would be ever the same again for Indonesia.Here, the situation is ironically worse for the Dutch, and they could very well be forced to begin negotiations for independence by 1946.
Logistically difficult to liberate both Philippines and the Indies in 1944, only plausible if USA adopted a "Japan-First" strategy altogether and abandoning the points agreed upon in Arcadia Conference.1943 - Macarthur chooses to liberate the Philippines and East Indies from the Moluccas.
1944/45? - having island-hopped to Borneo with minimal resistance, the USANZAC force continues to Java.
Logistically difficult to liberate both Philippines and the Indies in 1944, only plausible if USA adopted a "Japan-First" strategy altogether and abandoning the points agreed upon in Arcadia Conference.
But let's say if MacArthur and ANZAC forces focused only on the East Indies while the Brits-Indians are stuck in Burma, then yes, an earlier Moluccan liberation in October-December 1944
They could, but as in Burma, the Nationalists could turn against them in return for Allied promises of independence. The British even took quite a liking to Aung San despite his relations with Japan.With the pressure being very much on, wouldn't the Japanese be more likely to speed up the process of independence for Indonesia? IIRC this is what happened in Burma.
Thanks for mentioning the Mexican involvement of liberating the Philippines. The Aztec Eagles were attached to the USAAF, wherein they flew the P-47s.It would be logistically difficult and bypassing the chain of commands, considering that the responsibility to free Dutch East Indies were fallen to the British and the American-Filipino-Mexican insistence of finishing off Japan first
In the situation the Allies dealt with OTL, yes. As other's have correctly pointed out, this would require the US to adopt the Pacific-first strategy, which is something i had in mind but neglected to mention at the beginning. It's not necessarily in the "wrong direction" however. After all, the East Indies held significant resources and strategic waterways. Controlling these, while inflicting further casualties on the Japanese and pushing them further north could be only beneficial, provided they have the troops to spare and the situation in Europe under control.While interesting in its potential near and long term impact on Indonesia, and an interesting operational thought exercise, isn't Java simply *the wrong direction* for Allied forces to advance from their bases, considering it is not a movement towards the Japanese home islands, but away from them?
At least no Bersiap or terror at a much smaller scale. A true liberation for the Europeans, Indos and Chinees.In 1944-45 Macarthur wanted to liberate Java with allied troops, but was ordered not to. What if, following the Borneo campaign, US Marines landed on the shores of Java? How would Sukarno, Hatta, et al react?
An earlier Soekarno's death would bring chaos to the IJA admimistration for sure, as no one else was as charismatic to the Indonesians as him despite a few of them are more administrally competent (I.E. Tan Malaka and Mohammad Hatta). Especially with Kempetai getting twitchy after they failed to oust Hatta and Amir Syarifudin as Indonesian Resistance members in 1943 because of Soekarno's personal intervention (they were right, btw), and the Allied forces getting closer and closer towards Java.At least no Bersiap or terror at a much smaller scale. A true liberation for the Europeans, Indos and Chinees.
No udea how it end wth Hatta and Soekarno, I hope bad
It's going to be hard to do anything on that scale when PETA are being thrown into suicide charges against the USMC or running into the the jungle to join the resistance.At least no Bersiap or terror at a much smaller scale. A true liberation for the Europeans, Indos and Chinees.
No udea how it end wth Hatta and Soekarno, I hope bad