Us Against The World: How The Jewish Defense League Paved the Road to Socialism

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  1. Oppo Nationalize Five Guys

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    March 1995 - Los Angeles


    Eazy-E had gone from a dopeman to a worldwide hero worth $50 million in a decade. He proved Dre who was still on top in 1993, and discovered Bone Thugs-N-Harmony along with The Black Eyed Peas. Of course, the rest of the game was just as ruthless as he was. That’s why Eazy was horribly sick in the hospital; he had apparently made one to many enemies this time. He wanted revenge, and the one who could pull that off was the man who never failed him, Jerry Heller.

    “It’s fucked up, Jerry! It’s fucked up! I’m the biggest motherfuckin’ gangsta around, and I’m hiding from the world cause I got AIDS.”

    Eric Wright was pale, had medical equipment strapped to him; but true to form, still had his Compton hat on.

    “Eric, you’re a strong fella. If anyone’s getting through AIDS, it’s you.”

    “The doctors keep telling me all of this garbage!”

    “Fuck what the doctors say!”

    “Alright, do you really wanna know why I got HIV, Jerry?”

    “How?”

    “It ain’t cause I’m a player, it’s cause of Suge Knight.”

    “Bastard’s been trying to get us dead for years.”

    Suge went from becoming a random body guard for N.W.A. to becoming head of Death Row, and building up the careers of Dr. Dre, Snoop Dogg, and most recently, Tupac Shakur. Eazy was still somewhat pissed that Pac and Dre were the ones claiming California when he was the personification of the West coast.

    “He laced those acupuncture needles with HIV! That nigga is a murderer! Someone else is gonna be next!”

    “Eric, you can’t suggest that we-”

    “Fuck yeah I’m suggesting that. Listen, I don’t got that much time left! Dre, Cube - they got no appreciation for how you lifted us outta the ghetto. You take out Suge Knight, you’re the hero of the rap game. We keep Ruthless on top. You got people at the JDL, right?”

    “Yeah.”

    “Suge’s got nothing against some of those Israeli dudes! They’ll rip an Arab to shreds; get five of them against Suge, he’s got no chance. He’s responsible for me being the way I am. If you do one thing for me before I die, it’s going to be this.”

    “You remember a while ago, when you said we should have taken out Suge? You were right. I should have let you go through with it.”

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    September 2001 - Mount Weather

    “I, James Strom Thurmond, do solemnly swear that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.”

    Chief Justice Rehnquist appeared youthful in contrast to a centenarian that resembled a rotten grapefruit. A staffer wheeled the president up to his podium, and gave him a binder containing his inaugural address.

    “Today, our fellow citizens, our way of life, our very freedom came under attack in a series of deliberate and deadly terrorist acts. Several great public servants, including President George W. Bush, Vice President Dick Cheney, Speaker Dennis Hastert, Australian Prime Minister John Howard, and several members of their staff were killed in today’s terrorist incident. Thousands of lives were suddenly ended by evil, despicable acts of terror. America will never forget this attack on Anglo-Saxon values as we unite together to fight against terrorism until our last breath. As Commander in Chief, I will show no hesitancy in putting an end to those who were responsible for today’s cowardly attacks in New York and Washington. Anyone who is opposed to our American values of freedom will pay the price.”


    A few of the leftier reporters made glances at some of the president’s rhetoric; it seemed a little worrying that the white supremacist would be controlling the US military. Halfway through the speech, Thurmond’s energy he had during the 1956 filibuster seemed to rush back at him. His mumbles grew increasingly faster, as if he felt someone was coming after him. Thurmond’s longtime staffers looked at each other, trying to figure out a way to cut the speech short; but the president had other ideas on his mind. Thurmond became even more panicked, with his sudden rush of energy culminating in him slumping over the podium. Cameras quickly cut, and for a few hours, the public were, for the second time that day, unclear on who exactly was running their country.

    The president lived, but it painfully reminded everyone in Washington, about death’s inevitable arrival. Thus began a period of American history where everyone surrounded an aging, senile leader to sign off on increasingly reactionary policies.

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    This timeline is going to be a leftist wank, undoubtedly. For me, alternate history is always about bending strange truths as much as possible to form a completely different world. Sometimes, I’ve blended the truths too far. When you grab attention for crossing the line, you’re sure as hell to jump over it in time.

    Socialists have always been met with pressures from liberals about compromise, and being told that our goals aren’t possible. Many Democrats are staying up all night thinking Joe Biden won’t deliver changes that have popular support. These constraints never seem to be put on Republicans, who keep moving down a road to authoritarianism. Looking back, we see Clinton and Obama as disappointments who could have done so much more, even with the constraints they were given.

    For socialism to work, it seems that there needs to be a dramatic failure on the part of the political establishment, a strong leader who the people can rally behind, and down ballot coattails. Us Against The World wasn’t originally one timeline - it was three different ideas that morphed into one. For a while, I had thought about how bad a post-9/11 America could get, and how would the President Thurmond 2001 scenario actually play out. For an even longer period, I looked at how the Democrats could have avoided the filibuster gridlock if they won a few close races in 2006 and 2008. Taking this to the extreme accomplished the near collapse of the GOP downballot.

    All I needed was a figurehead for the movement. I had already tried to catapult Jello Biafra into the mainstream with Alan Keyes’ End of History, Jesse Jackson in 1992 wasn’t exactly what I was looking for, and it was almost impossible for Mike Gravel to beat Clinton and Obama in 2008.

    These ideas had been buried into the back of my mind until I stumbled across a 1992 MTV interview with Tupac Shakur. I had never seen such a strong condemnation of wealth and a capitalist society. This was the final piece of the puzzle. One of the most mocked tropes in alternate history is placing a dead celebrity into office - but Tupac was different. At the age of 25, he had become an icon. The fighting spirit and the Panther mentality of Tupac was exactly what this socialist America needed. Like Trump, he would use his fame, but unlike Trump, he’d use his fame to lift others up.

    Before we get started, I’d like to thank @Gonzo, @Gentleman Biaggi, @Mumby for letting me bounce some of my ideas off them. I’d also like to give my appreciation to all the members of the Squat and everyone else who has liked my lists. With that, let us begin.
     
  2. Gonzo Grumpy Poujadist Norn Person

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    Its here and it looks great. Really looking forward to this @Oppo.
     
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  3. God-Eater of the Marshes Wanted on Voyage

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    This is definitely interesting. I'll be watching this for sure, if only to see how you wrangle Tupac into office. I think, especially in 2008, this would really only be possible if Tupac somehow convinces the Dem establishment to get behind him... Which would be challenging, to say the least. Nevertheless, this looks good!
     
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  4. Minchandre Well-Known Member

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    Oh man. For the JDL to seem like good guys, things are gonna have to get really bad.

    It'll be worth it, though, if we get to have Bibi telling American Jews to chill out.
     
  5. Catalunya Well-Known Member

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    Have there been any other political butterflies between Tupac surviving and 9/11?
     
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  6. Oppo Nationalize Five Guys

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    Other than Jim Jeffords staying with the Republicans for a few more months, no.
     
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  7. Catalunya Well-Known Member

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    You could also have a few hundred votes going the other way in the Washington Senate election in 2000 election.
     
  8. Gentleman Biaggi Leader of the bisexual agenda

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    Its here
    We made it
     
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  9. manitobot Well-Known Member

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    lmao President tupac
     
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  10. Roberto El Rey Minister-Chairman of the Chief Directive Executive

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    Just commenting to say I’ll be watching this with combined fear and wonder, and to chastise you for not calling “End of History” “Keyes to the White House” instead.
     
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  11. Rosa Luxemburg Homosatanist

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    Ftfw.

    Slade Gorton's bomb

    Also, I'm excited for this. The months long wait has been agonizing
     
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  12. B_Munro Member

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    Tupac? Clearly the best choice for president since Clinton.
     
  13. KuboCaskett Resident Otaku

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    The best to do that is to have them go up against either Neo-Nazis or Commies, if you're going for the role of a "good guy" in regards to such an organization (a terrorist one mind you).
     
  14. Oppo Nationalize Five Guys

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    That article just made my day! :)
     
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    It's a modern classic. The voice of Chocolate City shall be heard.
     
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  16. TRH Tyrannosaurus Rex Handler

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    President Thurmond? I remember reading the start of a timeline a while back that had Hastert forced out by an early revelation of his abuse scandal, followed by Clinton and Gore getting gunned down by some nutjob. Was that one of your earlier ideas, by any chance?

    In any case, I think Thurmond would be under strong, strong pressure to quickly name a Vice President, at least, given his advanced age and the need to maintain as much governmental stability as possible. Plus, well, even without Jeffords defecting, the GOP would not really control the Senate with that office vacant. Colin Powell seems like the obvious choice, given that he'd be inoffensive to Democrats and is already next in line as things stand. Thurmond may not like the idea of a black man being there, but he doesn't exactly seem like he's in the best shape physically or politically to fight tooth and nail on this anyways.
     
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    I had seen that timeline, but having Thurmond in power post-9/11 allows for him and his administration to capitalize on the public’s fear. This will prove very interesting, as we will find out in the next few updates.
     
  18. manav95 Well-Known Member

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    I think having an old hard line segregationist can generate enough backlash, coupled with a worse Great Recession in 2008, to get Tupac elected. I also think that taking down Suge would help Tupac's reputation along with Tupac entering his 30s and formulating a more presentable message with less swearing and violent rhetoric. I mean Tupac was 25 when he died, so it was clear he was still young and rather hotheaded. I think Tupac becoming President in this TL is very plausible.
     
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    If Tupac Shakur is our best hope...yikes (this is Tupac before he died; keep in mind that Tupac has some skeletons in his closet which his opponents will have a field day with, IMO)...
     
  20. PNWKing There's Still Hope Out There!

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    Thurmond should in all honesty name John McCain his Vice President.
     
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