Until every drop of blood is paid - A more radical American Civil War

Discussion in 'Alternate History Discussion: Before 1900' started by Red_Galiray, Sep 6, 2018.

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  1. Red_Galiray En un pueblito al sur de Estados Unidos.

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    That's an interesting scenario, though the Confederacy starting a second war would be suicide lol.

    I'd need to research more about Hawaii. I actually don't know much about it...

    This is an important point, guys.

    For what's it worth, my TL contains a lot of actual history itself. The two mini-updates are practically just retellings of OTL events. The butterflies are starting to spread their wings, but no real radical change has taken place. Yet.

    Arnold D.C. already gave an excellent explanation, but I wanted to add a curious little anecdote. Union forces in two occasions drove the rebels back all the way to Lee's headquarters, and in both occasions Lee wanted to lead a counterattack himself. The soldiers themselves told him to fall back to security.
     
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  2. NHBL Long Time Member, CMII

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    I'm still enjoying this timeline. Great stuff :)
     
  3. Ironshark Well-Known Member

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    didn't lee end up having to take control of a individual Corp once ?
     
  4. NHBL Long Time Member, CMII

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    Speaking of Lee, and generals generally, how would the rebels react if a well known general was killed in action by a black unit? (I'm assuming that he was killed in action, not murdered.)
     
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  5. Ironshark Well-Known Member

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    Probably massacre any other black pepole they captured

    Might make them more bloodthirsty if facing that unti again
     
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  6. sloreck Grunt Bear

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    Confederate units, and the government encouraged this. The CSA threatened to execute Union officers of black units for the crime of "inciting a servile insurrection". There was the Ft Pillow massacre, and other such incidents. A general, especially a popular one, being killed facing black troops would make things worse, sort of, as they were pretty close to as bad as you could get already.
     
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    If the war turns against slavery more rapidly, any chance of some kind of an International Brigade?
     
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  8. Ironshark Well-Known Member

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    So I just read through longstreets biography..and I i find it funny how all the actual confederate leaders with a not absolutely horrible record on race are often pushed aside or ignored by lost causers in favor of whitewashing Some awful people..
     
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    HMMMMMM I WONDER WHY THAT COULD POSSIBLY BE
     
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  10. Ironshark Well-Known Member

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    Hmm maybe it starts with a “actually “and ends in a “just racist”
     
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  11. CountDVB Dual Emperor of the Aztech and Maychanical Empires

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    Looking forward to what happens
     
  12. Tjakari Locusts and Fishbones

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    Shame, I was hoping Fremont wouldn't show his ass this early.
     
  13. Red_Galiray En un pueblito al sur de Estados Unidos.

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    It seems that I'll have to continue delaying the next update. My exams didn't give me any time to research or write, and now that they are over a personal tragedy has struck my family - my great-grandmother has died. This week, and probably the next one, is going to be long and busy for me. Again, I'm sorry for leaving you guys hanging for so long.
     
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  14. NHBL Long Time Member, CMII

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    There is no need to apologize--rl comes first. My condolences!
     
  15. DTF955Baseballfan 12-time All-Star in some TL

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    Praying for you and your family. It's always rough - we like to quote Scripture and say things like "To be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord" but the problem is our loved ones are also absent from us. :) It's ironic that we say we lost someone when in reality we're the ones who feel lost at such a time.
     
  16. Tjakari Locusts and Fishbones

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    Love and support. See to yourself, see to your family.
     
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    My condolences, @Red_Galiray; I lost my own mom three years ago next month (she had health issues) so I know what you're going through...
     
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  18. Ironshark Well-Known Member

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    @Red_Galiray i am sorry for your lost take.care of yourself
     
  19. sloreck Grunt Bear

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    My condolences. I was fortunate that I was old enough (13) to have had time with my great-grandmother who live quite close to us. She was very petite (under 5') but quite tough woman who had immigrated from the Austro-Hungarian Empire, and who, with three teenage daughters, lost her husband in the flu epidemic of 1918. You are fortunate to be able to have your memories...
     
  20. CountDVB Dual Emperor of the Aztech and Maychanical Empires

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    I'm sorry for your loss
     
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