United States of North America

for some world where North America is united into one nation, with a US-style system of government.
North America is divided into the following states, following the reform of state boundaries enacted in 2011.
Mackenzie (OTL Yukon, Northwest Territory, Nunavut, Greenland)
Alaska (OTL Alaska)
Victoria (OTL British Columbia)
Alberta (OTL Alberta, Manitoba, Saskatchewan)
Ontario (OTL Ontario)
Quebec (OTL Quebec+Maritime Provinces+Lab and Newf+Saint Pierre and Miquelon)
New England (OTL ME+NH+VT+MA+RI+CT)
New York (OTL NY)
New Jersey (OTL NJ)
Pennsylvania (OTL PA)
Delmarva (Delmarva Peninsula)
Potomac (OTL DC)
North Chesapeake (OTL MD minus the Delmarva Peninsula)
South Chesapeake (OTL VA+WV minus the Delmarva Peninsula)
Carolina (OTL NC+SC)
Georgia (OTL GA)
Florida (OTL FL east of the Apalachicola river)
Mississippi (OTL AL+MS+FL west of Apalachicola river)
Tennessee (OTL TN+KY)
Ohio (OTL OH)
Indiana (OTL IN)
Michigan (OTL MI, without the Upper Peninsula)
Illinois (OTL IL)
Superior (OTL Upper Peninsula+WI+MN)
Missouri (OTL MO+IA)
Dakota (OTL ND+SD+NE)
Louisiana (OTL LA+AR)
Oklahoma (OTL OK+KS)
Texas (OTL TX)
Colorado (OTL CO+NM)
Utah (OTL AZ+UT)
Southern California (OTL Southern CA minus San Diego and Imperial counties)
Northern California (OTL Northern CA+NV)
Hawaii (OTL HI)
Montana (OTL MT+WY+ID)
Columbia (OTL WA+OR)
Cuba (OTL Cuba+Bahamas+Bermuda)
Hispaniola (OTL Haiti+Dominican Republic)
Puerto Rico (OTL Puerto Rico)
Jamaica (OTL Jamaica)
Trinidad (the rest of the Caribbean)
Panama (OTL Panama+Costa Rica+Nicaragua)
Guatemala (OTL Belize+El Salvador+Guatemala+Honduras)
Baja California (San Diego and Imperial counties in OTL CA+Baja California)
Yutacan (OTL Quintana Roo+Campeche+Yutacan)
Tabasco (OTL Tabasco+Chiapas)
Veracruz (OTL Veracruz)
Oaxaca (OTL Oaxaca)
Mexico (OTL Edomex+Districto Federal)
Puebla (OTL Puebla+Morelos+Tlaxcala)
Acapulco (OTL Guerrero+Michoacan)
Queretaro (OTL Queretaro+Hidalgo)
Monterrey (OTL Nuevo Leon+Tamaulipas)
Guanajuato (OTL Guanajuato+San Luis Potosi)
Jalisco (OTL Jalisco+Colima+Nayarit)
Durango (OTL Durango+Sinaloa+Zacatecas+Aguascalientes)
Chihuahua (OTL Chihuahua+Coahuila+Sonora)
There are 650 members of the House of Representatives, elected by preferential voting. Seat magnitude varies between 1 (in at-large seats in the smallest states) to 3. Term length is three years.
There are 100 members of the Senate, also elected by preferential voting. Senate seats are divvied out every decade, after the census results, with each state getting at least 1. The first election cycle (ITTL, in this case 2011) after the Census is considered a "Full Senate" election, with every seat up for election. Senate terms are five years long. Senate elections occur out of sync with House and President elections.
The President is elected in a manner very similar to in Brazil, only in the second round an Electoral College is used.
2009, 2013, 2017, etc: Presidential elections
2012, 2014 (for half of the seats), 2017 (for half of the seats), 2019 (for half of the seats), etc: Senate elections
2007, 2010, 2013, etc: House elections

The most prominent parties in USNA are:
Liberal Democratic Party: a centrist outfit with a socially traditionalist bent. It is led by Susana Martinez, former Senator for Colorado, and incumbent President. It is the most powerful party in the country (thanks to its strength in the Hispanic vote), but it has had long droughts in the past. It narrowly took back power in the November 2017 presidential election, finally recovering from brand damage it sustained due to being in power during the stock market crash of 2009.
National Liberal Party: it is the polar opposite of the LDP, and is seen as more "progressive" than the LDP. It is as smack dab in the center, also like the LDP. It was in power from 2009 to 2013, to its detriment; President Anthony Weiner proved to be a poor President, and his personal scandals only worsened the party's woes. It is currently licking its wounds and hoping to return to power in 2021.
Social Democratic Party: a proper "Labour" party, it was in office from 2013 to 2017 (thanks to the left vote rallying around it in the first round, and it facing the Freedom Party in the second round). It is led by Richard Trumka, who represents SW PA in the House of Representatives. The Social Democratic Party is unable to corral all of USNA's unions though, since many of them prefer to play kingmaker (especially to prop up the LDP).
Liberty Party: this is a center-right party that defines itself as moderately libertarian. It is primarily divided between a minority "Religious Right" wing, and a majority "capital-L Libertarian" wing. They tend to be best in the South and the Interior West. It is led by Ted Cruz, a member of the House of Representatives living in Houston. It has a complicated relationship with the LDP.
Green Party: frequently a junior partner of the National Liberal Party, and center-left overall. It has a reputation for working within the system to achieve its goals (even if that means working with the LDP), and its support is volatile, regularly halving or doubling from election to election. It is led by Matt Gonzalez, mayor of San Francisco.
Democratic Left Party: this party is a big-tent of the far-left (though in practice it is not really far-left), with Trots, tankies, Titoists, and others. It famously decided the outcome of the 2005 election, flipping New York to the LDP via its organizational efforts, in protest of the NLP candidate's plan for a free trade agreement with the European Union. Jarvis Tyner is its leader, and sits on the Philadelphia city council.
National Revival Party: far-right outfit along the lines of AfD in Germany. Richard Spencer is its leader, but he has been unsuccessful in getting the party any congressional representation.
United People's Party: a slightly-center-right party that does best among small-l liberal Mainline Protestants in the Midwest. Its leader is David Young, a representative from the state of Missouri.

next up, the results of the 2010 census.
 
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Mackenzie: 156,983
Alaska: 710,231
Victoria: 4,055,297
Alberta: 5,777,452
Ontario: 12,703,143
Quebec: 9,549,471
New England: 14,444,865
New York: 19,378,102
New Jersey: 8,791,894
Pennsylvania: 12,702,379
Delmarva: 1,392,713
Potomac: 601,723
North Chesapeake: 5,324,326
South Chesapeake: 9,808,465
Carolina: 14,160,847
Georgia: 9,687,653
Florida: 17,822,545
Mississippi: 8,725,798
Tennessee: 10,685,472
Ohio: 11,536,504
Indiana: 6,483,802
Michigan: 9,572,279
Illinois: 12,830,632
Superior: 11,302,272
Missouri: 9,035,282
Dakota: 3,313,112
Louisiana: 7,449,290
Oklahoma: 6,604,469
Texas: 25,145,561
Colorado: 7,088,375
Utah: 9,155,902
Southern California: 19,410,169
Northern California: 17,274,497
Hawaii: 1,360,211
Montana: 3,120,623
Columbia: 10,555,614
Cuba: 11,578,051
Hispaniola: 19,335,436
Puerto Rico: 3,725,789
Jamaica: 2,581,355
Trinidad: 3,021,770
Panama: 13,587,980
Guatemala: 29,149,925
Baja California: 7,061,937
Yutacan: 4,181,086
Tabasco: 7,035,183
Veracruz: 7,643,194
Mexico: 34,876,030
Puebla: 7,557,056
Acapulco: 7,739,805
Queretaro: 4,492,955
Monterrey: 7,922,012
Guanajuato: 8,071,890
Jalisco: 9,086,216
Durango: 7,037,491
Chihuahua: 8,817,336
Total: 534,463,065
 
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House of Representatives
Mackenzie: 156,983 (1)
Alaska: 710,231 (1)
Victoria: 4,055,297 (5)
Alberta: 5,777,452 (7)
Ontario: 12,703,143 (15)
Quebec: 9,549,471 (11)
New England: 14,444,865 (17)
New York: 19,378,102 (23)
New Jersey: 8,791,894 (11)
Pennsylvania: 12,702,379 (15)
Delmarva: 1,392,713 (2)
Potomac: 601,723 (1)
North Chesapeake: 5,324,326 (6)
South Chesapeake: 9,808,465 (12)
Carolina: 14,160,847 (17)
Georgia: 9,687,653 (12)
Florida: 17,822,545 (23)
Mississippi: 8,725,798 (10)
Tennessee: 10,685,472 (13)
Ohio: 11,536,504 (14)
Indiana: 6,483,802 (8)
Michigan: 9,572,279 (11)
Illinois: 12,830,632 (15)
Superior: 11,302,272 (14)
Missouri: 9,035,282 (11)
Dakota: 3,313,112 (4)
Louisiana: 7,449,290 (9)
Oklahoma: 6,604,469 (8)
Texas: 25,145,561 (30)
Colorado: 7,088,375 (8)
Utah: 9,155,902 (11)
Southern California: 19,410,169 (23)
Northern California: 17,274,497 (21)
Hawaii: 1,360,211 (2)
Montana: 3,120,623 (4)
Columbia: 10,555,614 (13)
Cuba: 11,578,051 (14)
Hispaniola: 19,335,436 (23)
Puerto Rico: 3,725,789 (4)
Jamaica: 2,581,355 (3)
Trinidad: 3,021,770 (3)
Panama: 13,587,980 (16)
Guatemala: 29,149,925 (35)
Baja California: 7,061,937 (8)
Yutacan: 4,181,086 (5)
Tabasco: 7,035,183 (8)
Veracruz: 7,643,194 (9)
Mexico: 34,876,030 (42)
Puebla: 7,557,056 (9)
Acapulco: 7,739,805 (9)
Queretaro: 4,492,955 (5)
Monterrey: 7,922,012 (9)
Guanajuato: 8,071,890 (10)
Jalisco: 9,086,216 (11)
Durango: 7,037,491 (8)
Chihuahua: 8,817,336 (11)
Total: 534,463,065
822,251 per member

Senate
Mackenzie: 156,983 (1)
Alaska: 710,231 (1)
Victoria: 4,055,297 (1)
Alberta: 5,777,452 (1)
Ontario: 12,703,143 (2)
Quebec: 9,549,471 (2)
New England: 14,444,865 (3)
New York: 19,378,102 (3)
New Jersey: 8,791,894 (2)
Pennsylvania: 12,702,379 (2)
Delmarva: 1,392,713 (1)
Potomac: 601,723 (1)
North Chesapeake: 5,324,326 (1)
South Chesapeake: 9,808,465 (2)
Carolina: 14,160,847 (3)
Georgia: 9,687,653 (2)
Florida: 17,822,545 (3)
Mississippi: 8,725,798 (2)
Tennessee: 10,685,472 (2)
Ohio: 11,536,504 (2)
Indiana: 6,483,802 (1)
Michigan: 9,572,279 (2)
Illinois: 12,830,632 (2)
Superior: 11,302,272 (2)
Missouri: 9,035,282 (2)
Dakota: 3,313,112 (1)
Louisiana: 7,449,290 (1)
Oklahoma: 6,604,469 (1)
Texas: 25,145,561 (5)
Colorado: 7,088,375 (1)
Utah: 9,155,902 (2)
Southern California: 19,410,169 (3)
Northern California: 17,274,497 (3)
Hawaii: 1,360,211 (1)
Montana: 3,120,623 (1)
Columbia: 10,555,614 (2)
Cuba: 11,578,051 (2)
Hispaniola: 19,335,436 (3)
Puerto Rico: 3,725,789 (1)
Jamaica: 2,581,355 (1)
Trinidad: 3,021,770 (1)
Panama: 13,587,980 (2)
Guatemala: 29,149,925 (4)
Baja California: 7,061,937 (1)
Yutacan: 4,181,086 (1)
Tabasco: 7,035,183 (1)
Veracruz: 7,643,194 (1)
Mexico: 34,876,030 (5)
Puebla: 7,557,056 (1)
Acapulco: 7,739,805 (1)
Queretaro: 4,492,955 (1)
Monterrey: 7,922,012 (1)
Guanajuato: 8,071,890 (1)
Jalisco: 9,086,216 (2)
Durango: 7,037,491 (1)
Chihuahua: 8,817,336 (2)
Total: 534,463,065
 
Alaska - a rural state with lots of oil, wildlife, and mountains. It most frequently votes LDP, due to the preferential voting system, and the state LDP's strong organization. The Liberty Party, though quite strong here, is rather unpopular among left-leaning voters, and the trade union vote regularly gives the LDP favorable preference flows in elections, allowing the LDP to finish second in the primary vote and still win. The NLP's history of weakness among union households, and the relative urbanness of its vote, disadvantage it in Alaska. The LDP does not win all the time, though. Independents can get elected, and indeed Alaska is one of the most Independent-receptive states in the nation. Lyman Hoffman has served Alaska in the House continuously since 1998. As of 2018, he has been in office for two decades, and has been elected seven times. The LDP held off a strong challenge from Independent candidate Byron I. Mallott, in the 2017 Senate race, following the decision of long-time SDP incumbent Tony Knowles to retire due to ill health.
2010 population: 710,231
Governor: Lisa Murkowski (Liberal Democratic Party) re-elected in 2016, previously elected in 2004, 2008, and 2012.
Representative: Lyman Hoffman (Independent) re-elected in 2016, previously elected in 2013, 2010, 2007, 2004, 2001, and 1998.
Senator: Bill Walker (Liberal Democratic Party) elected in 2017.
 
Mackenzie - this covers the bulk of the Far North, and takes in many native communities. Mining is big business here, even more so than in Alaska. This is (on paper) a three-way marginal between the LDP, SDP, and NLP. Mackenzie is more small-l liberal than Alaska, and Whitehorse and Yellowknife are typically more NLP-friendly than Mackenzie at large. However, the NLP's persistent weakness in the trade union vote gives the LDP victory, more often than not. The NLP was wiped out here in early 2010s and they are yet to really recover since. Larry Bagnell party-switched, and the LDP heavily defeated NLP Representative Leona Aglukkaq. State politics is a different beast; Governors are frequently elected without party labels on the ballot, though not always.
2010 population: 156,983
Governor: Dennis Bevington (Social Democratic Party) re-elected in 2015, previously elected in 2011 and 2007.
Representative: Paul Quassa (Liberal Democratic Party) re-elected in 2016, previously elected in 2013.
Senator: Larry Bagnell (Liberal Democratic Party) re-elected in 2017, previously elected in 2012.
 
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Victoria is dominated by Vancouver, a fast-growing city on the coast. It is heavily polarized between the NLP and the LDP, and the two parties alternate in the state government. The Greens are arguably strongest in the state of Victoria, and the Greens won the governorship in the 2017 election, and almost picked up the Senate seat of LDP politician Christy Clark (who was retiring).
2010 population: 4,055,297
Governor: Andrew Weaver (Green Party) elected in 2017
Senator: Gregor Robertson (National Liberal Party) elected in 2017

Victoria has 3 districts electing 5 members.
Victoria-1: Vancouver Island. 1 member. Elizabeth May (Green Party) re-elected in 2016, previously elected in 2013 and 2010.
Victoria-2: Vancouver, Burnaby, Richmond, New Westminster, part of Electoral Area A, Delta, Surrey. 2 members. Peter Julian (National Liberal Party) re-elected in 2016, previously elected in 2013, 2010, and 2007; Andrew Helmer (Green Party) elected in 2016.
Victoria-3: the rest of Victoria. 2 members. Shirley Bond (Liberal Democratic Party) re-elected in 2016, previously elected in 2013, 2010, 2007, 2004, 2001, and 1998; Nathan Cullen (National Liberal Party) re-elected in 2016, previously elected in 2013, 2010, 2007, and 2004.
 
Alberta covers the heart of the northern Great Plains. Calgary and Edmonton are both strong areas for the National Liberals, but the non-NLP vote is somewhat fractured between the LDP (which suffers a bit here due to its more friendly stance towards unions and the more traditionalist stances), and the Liberty Party, which does well here due to an unusually large presence of both religious conservatives and libertarians. The NLP did relatively well here even in 2013.

2010 population: 5,777,452
Governor: Naheed Nenshi (National Liberal Party) elected in 2017
Senators: Stephen Harper (Liberal Democratic Party) re-elected in 2017, elected in 2012, 2007, 2002, 1997; Greg Clark (National Liberal Party) elected in 2017.

Alberta has 3 districts electing 7 members.
Alberta-1: census divisions #6, #8, #9, #14, #15. 2 members. Rob Anders (Liberty Party) re-elected in 2016, elected in 2013, 2007, 2004, 2001, 1998, and 1995; Ron Liepert (National Liberal Party) elected in 2016.
Alberta-2: OTL Manitoba, OTL Saskatchewan, Alberta census divisions #12, #16, #17, #18, #19. 3 members. Scott Moe (Liberty Party) re-elected in 2016, elected in 2013 and 2007; MaryAnn Mihychuk (National Liberal Party) re-elected in 2016, elected in 2010, 2007, 2004, 2001, and 1998; Gene Makowsky (Liberal Democratic Party) re-elected in 2016, elected in 2013.
Alberta-3: the rest of Alberta. 2 members. Don Ivenson (National Liberal Party) re-elected in 2016, elected in 2013; Sarah Hamilton (Liberal Democratic Party) elected in 2016.
 
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Mackenzie: 156,983
Alaska: 710,231
Victoria: 4,055,297
Alberta: 5,777,452
Ontario: 12,703,143
Quebec: 9,549,471
New England: 14,444,865
New York: 19,378,102
New Jersey: 8,791,894
Pennsylvania: 12,702,379
Delmarva: 1,392,713
Potomac: 601,723
North Chesapeake: 5,324,326
South Chesapeake: 9,808,465
Carolina: 14,160,847
Georgia: 9,687,653
Florida: 17,822,545
Mississippi: 8,725,798
Tennessee: 10,685,472
Ohio: 11,536,504
Indiana: 6,483,802
Michigan: 9,572,279
Illinois: 12,830,632
Superior: 11,302,272
Missouri: 9,035,282
Dakota: 3,313,112
Louisiana: 7,449,290
Oklahoma: 6,604,469
Texas: 25,145,561
Colorado: 7,088,375
Utah: 9,155,902
Southern California: 19,410,169
Northern California: 17,274,497
Hawaii: 1,360,211
Montana: 3,120,623
Columbia: 10,555,614
Cuba: 11,578,051
Hispaniola: 19,335,436
Puerto Rico: 3,725,789
Jamaica: 2,581,355
Trinidad: 3,021,770
Panama: 13,587,980
Guatemala: 29,149,925
Baja California: 7,061,937
Yutacan: 4,181,086
Tabasco: 7,035,183
Veracruz: 7,643,194
Mexico: 34,876,030
Puebla: 7,557,056
Acapulco: 7,739,805
Queretaro: 4,492,955
Monterrey: 7,922,012
Guanajuato: 8,071,890
Jalisco: 9,086,216
Durango: 7,037,491
Chihuahua: 8,817,336
Total: 534,463,065
It appears y'all forgot the Map and or graphic, which is kinda important in a thread dedicated to maps and graphics.
 
How does this union happen? Does it start out as a more confederal union that centralizes following a more intense revolutionary period in the Americas? Or does the US just manifest more destiny? Because that would have a massive impact on what this union looks like.
 
How does this union happen? Does it start out as a more confederal union that centralizes following a more intense revolutionary period in the Americas? Or does the US just manifest more destiny? Because that would have a massive impact on what this union looks like.
I'm aware this is a rather unlikely way for history to end up.
How do you think this could occur?
 
I'm aware this is a rather unlikely way for history to end up.
How do you think this could occur?
It's not only hard to say, it's hard to even begin to conceptualize. Depending on the PoD, social trends are going to be dramatically different so it's hard to imagine people like Anthony Weiner and Ted Cruz even existing. Furthermore, if it's built off of the US model of government, it's hard to imagine there being more than 2 relevant major parties, let alone 8.

Perhaps the first thing to consider is that many of these states are fucking massive. I'm looking for some sort of national center or point of national origin and none are immediately visible. It literally looks like an ASB flew down, looked at North America, and said "let's try spreading this big country in the middle out some, but with roughly the same number of subdivisions" .
 
It's not only hard to say, it's hard to even begin to conceptualize. Depending on the PoD, social trends are going to be dramatically different so it's hard to imagine people like Anthony Weiner and Ted Cruz even existing. Furthermore, if it's built off of the US model of government, it's hard to imagine there being more than 2 relevant major parties, let alone 8.

Perhaps the first thing to consider is that many of these states are fucking massive. I'm looking for some sort of national center or point of national origin and none are immediately visible. It literally looks like an ASB flew down, looked at North America, and said "let's try spreading this big country in the middle out some, but with roughly the same number of subdivisions" .
the main purpose for this was a map-drawing exercise anyway - as for the number of parties, USNA adopted preferential voting, which allows for a two-and-a-half party system in Congress.
 
the main purpose for this was a map-drawing exercise anyway - as for the number of parties, USNA adopted preferential voting, which allows for a two-and-a-half party system in Congress.
Echoing Calbear, you should draw a map! It'll make things easier to conceptualize and it seems like you already know where you want to draw the lines.
 
Echoing Calbear, you should draw a map! It'll make things easier to conceptualize and it seems like you already know where you want to draw the lines.
i started drawing a map an hour and a half ago. I'm 80% done - Caribbean and North Canada are primarily what's left.
turns out I messed up in Mexico - Tlaxcala and Oaxaca were skipped over. So I'll have to redo the numbers for House and Senate as well.
 
USNA blank map.PNG

finally done.
they have been colored into groups of 5, with the exception of the one centered on the Midwest (which has 7)
 
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