United Scandinavia?

Ok, I admit this was inspired by playing Denmark in Magna Mundi and trying to preserve the Danish-Swedish union-but how, historically, could the Kalmar Union have been made to last, and result in a united Scandinavian state?

Or, I understand there was a nationalist movement in the 19th C to unify Sweden, Denmark, and Norway-any chance of it suceeding?
 

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Scandinavism in the 1800s was never really that strong. I think the problems mostly was Denmark not wanting to be annexed by Sweden. And who in their right minds would.:rolleyes:

The Union of Kalmar could have survived, but you need to have kings who aren't neglecting the Swedes, since that causes uprisings, and Denmark can't put down constant Swedish rebellions in eternity. A surviving Kalmar Union would be a loose federation of three different kingdoms though.
 
Scandinavism in the 1800s was never really that strong. I think the problems mostly was Denmark not wanting to be annexed by Sweden. And who in their right minds would.:rolleyes:

Actually it was the other way around. Norway and Denmark has substantial support for Scandinavism, but Sweden only had limited support because the Swedes didn't want to give up any power or compromise in any way by joining a union with the other countries, which would have meant making concessions. For one thing we would have to give up hegemony over Norway and make it our peer, which was simply unthinkable for the ruling elite.

Which is stupid because Sweden would dominate a united Scandinavia anyway, due to sheer size of population, industry and resource availability. Sweden has more population than Denmark and Norway combined, and in the 1800s it was by far the most industrialised and modernised of the Nordic countries. We still lead industry, but the modernised factor is up to debate. :p
 
It was a students movement fuelled by romantics... :D
... and of course there was a number of romantics.

But Denmark and Sweden had much too different security issues at hand so it wasn't politically working.
 
It was also in the interests of the neighbouring countries, particularly Novgorod, the Teutonic Order, the Hansaetic Legue and England to keep the Nordic countries apart and at each others' throats.
 
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