Wilcox, will there been an American spelling reform in TTL as well? if so, change it to quoir. Looks cooler.
Union and Liberty: An American TL
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Wilcox, will there been an American spelling reform in TTL as well? if so, change it to quoir. Looks cooler.
I've gotten part of the next update written up, but I'm not sure how much time I'll have to finish it in the next few days. I will probably be able to get it done sometime during the weekend, but no guarantees. I can answer some of the more recent questions.
That's mostly the American textbook's bias. A few minimal reforms have been passed, but more aren't likely to follow.
The Chancellor is appointed by the Kaiser and can be dismissed. The Reichstag can express their displeasure with the chancellor but dismissal is the authority of the Kaiser.
I do have some spelling reform planned, mainly a trend toward Latinization of some spellings. Changing choir to quoir could be part of it.
Can you give us an idea of the strength relation between the parties in the German Reichstag (even accounting for the differing franchise)?
That brings a question to my mind. Will the orthographic reform that happened to the Portuguese language in 1911 still happen TTL?I do have some spelling reform planned, mainly a trend toward Latinization of some spellings. Changing choir to quoir could be part of it.
So in TTL, is there any conflict between monarchies and republics just because of the different forms of government? If the German monarchy and French Republic are allied there are definitely less conflict for this reason, but is it considered at all? Just wondering
Hey Wilcox, out of curiosity (and while we are on the topic of Germany) what are Bohemia and Moravia's status within Germany.
From what I understand Bohemia was annexed by Prussia before unification while Moravia was annexed later on by Germany. Does Moravia have greater autonomy the Bohemia? Or was Bohemia given greater autonomy after Moravia was annexed?
Having the Czechs split in terms of representation is probably useful in keeping them from unifying and rioting for more. But at the same time this could backfire, quite badly.
If possible can we get a political map of Germany?
Keep up the good work, man. Certainly looking forward to the next update.
From what I understand Bohemia was annexed by Prussia before unification while Moravia was annexed later on by Germany. Does Moravia have greater autonomy the Bohemia? Or was Bohemia given greater autonomy after Moravia was annexed?
Having the Czechs split in terms of representation is probably useful in keeping them from unifying and rioting for more. But at the same time this could backfire, quite badly.
If possible can we get a political map of Germany?
Keep up the good work, man. Certainly looking forward to the next update.
Winston Smith
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I'll second this. In OTL (As I'm sure you know) Hanover was annexed directly by Prussia, while Bavaria, Saxony, etc all had soverientity under the wider German Empire; they had their own armies and so forth. Is the situation any different from OTL? Because it seems that despite having a liberal Kaiser Germany is less liberal and democratic then OTL.
Just a quick announcement. The next update will be finished tomorrow! Finals are starting to wind down, so I will actually have some time to work on the timeline instead of school-related things.
The World in a New Century, Section VII: Southern Europe
Finally got most of the update done. I still need to do the section on the Ottomans and Greece, but I have one more final tomorrow morning that needs studying for so that takes precedent. Here's the first two sections of the next update. Last section and footnotes will be added tomorrow.
The World in a New Century, Section VII: Southern Europe
Published by the McNally Corporation in Chicago, 1901.
Italy:
Italy, like France, is one of the few republics in Europe that are not presided over by a reigning monarch. Italy has a president and a Congress modeled closely after the one in the United States. The founder of Italian unification, Giuseppe Garibaldi, was an admirer of the American system of government and lived in the United States for a portion of his life prior to leading Italian unification in the 1860s. The president yields more power in Italy that his counterpart in the United States. However, the Congress of Italy, made up of a Senate and Chamber of Deputies, still holds some legislative power.
Italy's significance and power in Europe is rather mediocre. Italy's primary zone of influence is over the Adriatic League, a federation of smaller city-states along the east coast of the Adriatic Sea. However, Italy's power in the remainder of the Mediterranean is dwarfed by that of France, though the Italians keep a small navy in the sea. Economically, Italy is very divided. The south of the country is much less advanced than the north, and as a result many southern Italians have left the country for the Americas. The north has developed a large manufacturing sector primarily in the Po Valley.
One unique aspect of the Italian government is the presence of the Pope of the Catholic Church in Rome. For centuries, the Pope had ruled territory including Rome and its surroundings while also serving as leader of the Catholic Church. But after the unification of Italy, the Papacy gave up its land to the Italian government in exchange for being allowed to return to Rome. Some members of the College of Cardinals refused to give up the Pope's physical authority and broke off from the Church, beginning the current schism. This anti-Papacy now resides in the city of Puebla in Tlaxcala.
The Danubian States:
In the south of Europe between Italy and the Turkish Empire, there are several countries in the region that until recently was the possession of the Habsburg dynasty and the Austrian Empire. The majority of the former Habsburg lands is now in Hungary, one of the former kingdom in the Austrian imperial lands. Now, Hungary is ruled by a chancellor elected by a Diet, but the people have very little say in how the government is run. The country is very tyrannous in nature and has enacted many laws promoting the migration of non-Hungarians from various parts of the country. The main area where this has occurred is Slavonia, including the city of Zagrab, where many Croatians have been forcefully moved to Dalmatia or have left the country to the United States and other countries. Economically, Hungary is very backward and plays little part in international trade. Part of this is due to its lack of viable port cities on the Adriatic Sea. Hungary's main port city is Zeng on the Adriatic Sea, but much of Hungary's trade runs through either the cities of the Adriatic League or through Germany via railroad.
The Adriatic League is a confederation of small city-states along the east coast of the Adriatic Sea. The league is made up of the cities of Trieste, Fiume, Zadar, Split, Dubrovnik, and Kotor. It was formed during the collapse of the Austrian Empire in the 1870s and largely exists under the protection of Italy. Each city within the league is autonomous as to local rules, with the national Senate formed by representatives from each of the six cities as well as members sent by the Italian government. The league is largely reliant on Italy for its resource, though the cities in the league have recently become popular seaside leisure destinations for many Europeans.
Lastly, the kingdom of Illyria is a small country that lies between the eastern stretch of the Alps and the Adriatic Sea. The small country is a monarchy currently headed by Adolf Anton von Auersperg. The monarchy is subject to a constitution and the Illyrian Senate is the voice of the people. The Kingdom of Illyria is of little import in the affairs of the region, though it is of note as it is the only country to arise out of the fall of the Austrian Empire that has chosen to keep a king. The capital is in the city of Ljubljana near the geographic center of Illyria.
The Balkan Peninsula:
Much of the Balkan Peninsula to the south of Hungary is dominated by the Turkish Empire. The Turkish Empire is under absolute rule by the Sultan, and the government of the country is very backward compared to the rest of Europe. The Turks have long ruled the Balkans along with their territories in Asia, but at the beginning of the last century the grip of the Sultan has begun to falter. In the early part of the last century, the Greeks and Egyptians rose up against the Sultan and with the help of the great powers of Europe, gained their independence and self-governance. Since then, the Turks have become still more backward as the Sultan has failed to embrace industrialization or granting the people a voice in the government.
The Turkish Empire as a whole straddles the link between Europe and the western portion of the Asian continent. The capital, Constantinople, is situated at a strategic position between the two continents and at the straits between the Mediterranean Sea and the Black Sea. The remainder of the Turkish lands in Europe are a motley assortment of Slavic peoples. After uprisings and petty conflicts between these groups, the Turkish Empire has granted Serbia and Rumania autonomy in order to improve the government in those areas. These countries are nominally part of Turkey but have their own local governments and are largely independent.
At the very southern tip of the Balkan Peninsula is Greece. Greece gained its independence during the 1820s and is now ruled by a constitutional monarchy. The country is notable as it is the home of the ancient city-states of Athens and Sparta as well as of thinkers such as Plato and Socrates, and is also the birthplace of the republic. While Greece is small, it has gained the protection of both Italy and Russia to ensure the Turks do not make an attempt at reconquering Greece. Greece was also the home of the first revival of the Olympic Games in 1882, which took place in Athens.
The World in a New Century, Section VII: Southern Europe
Published by the McNally Corporation in Chicago, 1901.
Italy:
Italy, like France, is one of the few republics in Europe that are not presided over by a reigning monarch. Italy has a president and a Congress modeled closely after the one in the United States. The founder of Italian unification, Giuseppe Garibaldi, was an admirer of the American system of government and lived in the United States for a portion of his life prior to leading Italian unification in the 1860s. The president yields more power in Italy that his counterpart in the United States. However, the Congress of Italy, made up of a Senate and Chamber of Deputies, still holds some legislative power.
Italy's significance and power in Europe is rather mediocre. Italy's primary zone of influence is over the Adriatic League, a federation of smaller city-states along the east coast of the Adriatic Sea. However, Italy's power in the remainder of the Mediterranean is dwarfed by that of France, though the Italians keep a small navy in the sea. Economically, Italy is very divided. The south of the country is much less advanced than the north, and as a result many southern Italians have left the country for the Americas. The north has developed a large manufacturing sector primarily in the Po Valley.
One unique aspect of the Italian government is the presence of the Pope of the Catholic Church in Rome. For centuries, the Pope had ruled territory including Rome and its surroundings while also serving as leader of the Catholic Church. But after the unification of Italy, the Papacy gave up its land to the Italian government in exchange for being allowed to return to Rome. Some members of the College of Cardinals refused to give up the Pope's physical authority and broke off from the Church, beginning the current schism. This anti-Papacy now resides in the city of Puebla in Tlaxcala.
The Danubian States:
In the south of Europe between Italy and the Turkish Empire, there are several countries in the region that until recently was the possession of the Habsburg dynasty and the Austrian Empire. The majority of the former Habsburg lands is now in Hungary, one of the former kingdom in the Austrian imperial lands. Now, Hungary is ruled by a chancellor elected by a Diet, but the people have very little say in how the government is run. The country is very tyrannous in nature and has enacted many laws promoting the migration of non-Hungarians from various parts of the country. The main area where this has occurred is Slavonia, including the city of Zagrab, where many Croatians have been forcefully moved to Dalmatia or have left the country to the United States and other countries. Economically, Hungary is very backward and plays little part in international trade. Part of this is due to its lack of viable port cities on the Adriatic Sea. Hungary's main port city is Zeng on the Adriatic Sea, but much of Hungary's trade runs through either the cities of the Adriatic League or through Germany via railroad.
The Adriatic League is a confederation of small city-states along the east coast of the Adriatic Sea. The league is made up of the cities of Trieste, Fiume, Zadar, Split, Dubrovnik, and Kotor. It was formed during the collapse of the Austrian Empire in the 1870s and largely exists under the protection of Italy. Each city within the league is autonomous as to local rules, with the national Senate formed by representatives from each of the six cities as well as members sent by the Italian government. The league is largely reliant on Italy for its resource, though the cities in the league have recently become popular seaside leisure destinations for many Europeans.
Lastly, the kingdom of Illyria is a small country that lies between the eastern stretch of the Alps and the Adriatic Sea. The small country is a monarchy currently headed by Adolf Anton von Auersperg. The monarchy is subject to a constitution and the Illyrian Senate is the voice of the people. The Kingdom of Illyria is of little import in the affairs of the region, though it is of note as it is the only country to arise out of the fall of the Austrian Empire that has chosen to keep a king. The capital is in the city of Ljubljana near the geographic center of Illyria.
The Balkan Peninsula:
Much of the Balkan Peninsula to the south of Hungary is dominated by the Turkish Empire. The Turkish Empire is under absolute rule by the Sultan, and the government of the country is very backward compared to the rest of Europe. The Turks have long ruled the Balkans along with their territories in Asia, but at the beginning of the last century the grip of the Sultan has begun to falter. In the early part of the last century, the Greeks and Egyptians rose up against the Sultan and with the help of the great powers of Europe, gained their independence and self-governance. Since then, the Turks have become still more backward as the Sultan has failed to embrace industrialization or granting the people a voice in the government.
The Turkish Empire as a whole straddles the link between Europe and the western portion of the Asian continent. The capital, Constantinople, is situated at a strategic position between the two continents and at the straits between the Mediterranean Sea and the Black Sea. The remainder of the Turkish lands in Europe are a motley assortment of Slavic peoples. After uprisings and petty conflicts between these groups, the Turkish Empire has granted Serbia and Rumania autonomy in order to improve the government in those areas. These countries are nominally part of Turkey but have their own local governments and are largely independent.
At the very southern tip of the Balkan Peninsula is Greece. Greece gained its independence during the 1820s and is now ruled by a constitutional monarchy. The country is notable as it is the home of the ancient city-states of Athens and Sparta as well as of thinkers such as Plato and Socrates, and is also the birthplace of the republic. While Greece is small, it has gained the protection of both Italy and Russia to ensure the Turks do not make an attempt at reconquering Greece. Greece was also the home of the first revival of the Olympic Games in 1882, which took place in Athens.
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During the Midcentury Revolutions, Garibaldi created a republic in Sardinia-Piedmont. I haven't really worked out the details of how it happened. But that government became the basis for Italian unification during the 1850s and 1860s.
Great update Wilcox. Wait was worth it.
Man... I know it has been established that these bits are heavily biased from an American textbook perspective. But Hungary doesn't seem like a good place to be in.
I wonder if you are planning to expand Illyria at Hungary's expense (a Sloven centered Yugoslavia like state, is something that I don't think has been done before.
Keep it up!
Man... I know it has been established that these bits are heavily biased from an American textbook perspective. But Hungary doesn't seem like a good place to be in.
I wonder if you are planning to expand Illyria at Hungary's expense (a Sloven centered Yugoslavia like state, is something that I don't think has been done before.
Keep it up!
How could he do this without facing Austrian intervention? This republic would be right on their border, you know.
My guess is greater support from France. Plus the Hapsburgs end up dealing with Prussian medlings in Bavaria (Wilcox mentioned a coup happened at some point) while this is happening. By the end the Hapsburgs are gone by the late 1860s, so Garibaldi probably had much less to deal with than in OTL.