Union and Liberty: An American TL

Something like this would create a HUGE social change! Globalization could happen at an exponential rate compared to OTL, with people being able to communicate quite easily across the world. Would proto-social networking also be developed?. Maybe something like a UN or WTO will form 30 years beforehand because of the convenience of communication. I know there were ways of communicating across the world back then, but from what the Middle East is showing us now, social networking, the internet, and e-mail can easily facilitate political change.
Yup. I'm envisioning combining the Information Revolution of today with the rise of anarchism, fascism, socialism, and post-war revanchism after the Great War. Think about what's going on in the Middle East now, and combine it with the major social movements of the era. ;)

The proto-fax is really cool. But the coolest part about the update is that AT&T does not exist in this TL!! Despite the similar name UT&T can't be anything similar to it because it is headed by Tesla.

If you get significant development in electricity and wireless technology early on (you have Tesla incharge so it should not be hard). I think the system you described should be able to work.

You could also have mobile phones very early on if you work with two way radio. These would very similar to the 1970s 80s car-phones of OTL. You just need to figure out how to make them smaller.

Overall cool update. And it should be exciting to see what the difference in technology will do to culture and as a consequence everything else.

Will tech be significantly more advanced than OTL by the time you get to present time?
Hmmm. I've been thinking about wireless technology, but the main problem with practical cell phones is going to be miniaturization. I'm also trying to work out the cost issues with getting the proto-internet running, since one reason I think the Internet in OTL has spread so far is the cheapness and availability of electricity. Tesla being in charge will probably help with that aspect, and with Teddy being in the White House there might be some government subsidies for the teletype industry.

I'm thinking that technology in other areas will probably be a little slower at first, but the ease of disseminating information will probably allow TTL to catch up and probably surpass OTL in some areas by the 2000s.
 
Yup. I'm envisioning combining the Information Revolution of today with the rise of anarchism, fascism, socialism, and post-war revanchism after the Great War. Think about what's going on in the Middle East now, and combine it with the major social movements of the era. ;)

The anarchist terrorist movement will be a lot better organized and more dangerous, then. Also the labour movements and socialist movements. This is going to be chaotic.
 
Tesla being in charge will probably help with that aspect, and with Teddy being in the White House there might be some government subsidies for the teletype industry.

Yeah I was also meaning to ask with Tesla in charge what's happening to Edison? Is he simply not around (butterflied away)? If he is, you will have an interesting development in the film industry, since without the Edison Trust there is no reason for it to move out of New York until it runs out of space (being New York it will still happen). The industry could the centralize somewhere else alternate to LA (Memphis sounds like a good option or somewhere in Colorado). Or it not centralize at all and have decentralized entertainment industry. Local identities might survive much longer if this happens to be the case.
 
Yeah I was also meaning to ask with Tesla in charge what's happening to Edison? Is he simply not around (butterflied away)? If he is, you will have an interesting development in the film industry, since without the Edison Trust there is no reason for it to move out of New York until it runs out of space (being New York it will still happen). The industry could the centralize somewhere else alternate to LA (Memphis sounds like a good option or somewhere in Colorado). Or it not centralize at all and have decentralized entertainment industry. Local identities might survive much longer if this happens to be the case.
Edison is definitely butterflied away, since in OTL his father fled Nova Scotia for the United States after the Mackenzie Rebellion in 1837 (yay wiki for that tidbit :p). I'm thinking the movie industry will be centered around Memphis or the Ozarks, since that will also encourage the growth of the Mississippi River metropolis.
 
Yup. I'm envisioning combining the Information Revolution of today with the rise of anarchism, fascism, socialism, and post-war revanchism after the Great War. Think about what's going on in the Middle East now, and combine it with the major social movements of the era. ;)

Somehow my thoughts just went to Hitler and Stalin tweeting...
 
Nice timeline, I loved it when you created a state that was the shape of Oregon, but you didnt call it Oregon, but Champoeg!

It's not the same shape as OTL Oregon; the northern border is different. The OTL one goes along the Columbia only until that river intersects the 46th parallel north, then meeting up with the Snake River at the intersection of OTL Washington, Oregon and Idaho. ITTL the border runs simply along the Columbia and then the Snake, leading to a rather strange-looking 'dent' protruding into OTL Washington.
 
Wilcox, now that Oregon was mentioned I do have a question about it. Later on how much will the residents of the NW corner (the states made up of the Oregon territory) will identify with the rest of the US. Even in OTL Oregon and Washington are arguably unique in their own way. The whole west coast (include California) is also seen (jokingly) as a whole other land. As they say:
"it's like somebody took America by the East Coast, and shook it, and all the normal people managed to hang on." With Idaho being the only connection to ITTL's West Coast (for now), and the rest of the US being a little bit more condensed will they have a view of being from Oregon Coast first and the US second?

Yup. I'm envisioning combining the Information Revolution of today with the rise of anarchism, fascism, socialism, and post-war revanchism after the Great War. Think about what's going on in the Middle East now, and combine it with the major social movements of the era.

Somehow my thoughts just went to Hitler and Stalin tweeting...

This would certainly be interesting. Wilcox, you said you figured out peer 2 peer tech already. I am really looking forward to reading out it. Because the more I think about it, the teletype, as cool as it is, seems to be more like a telegraph than a fax. It types long distance like a telegraph (but on sheet on paper in latin script instead of morse on a tickertape), unlike a fax which copies and prints documents. It would still be a huge leap in the communication industry, and probably a great tool for journalism. But not sure how revolutionary it is.

Regardless the TL is still really exciting.

Bump. Why not in OTL Chicago?

Weather. One of the great advantages of LA was year long filming weather. Chicago is rendered useless 6 months of the year. Also Memphis has the music industry based there, so it makes sense. However since Edison is being butterflied it is likely the film industry will probably stay in New York longer and only move once it gets too expensive (probably around the time sound comes in and studios need to switch technologies) and too crowded. Although if Wilcox chooses he can move it earlier for whatever reason.

Mempis would also help grow this Mississippi megalopolis Wilcox is planning to have.
 
Weather. One of the great advantages of LA was year long filming weather. Chicago is rendered useless 6 months of the year. Also Memphis has the music industry based there, so it makes sense. However since Edison is being butterflied it is likely the film industry will probably stay in New York longer and only move once it gets too expensive (probably around the time sound comes in and studios need to switch technologies) and too crowded. Although if Wilcox chooses he can move it earlier for whatever reason.

Mempis would also help grow this Mississippi megalopolis Wilcox is planning to have.

Well, that's assuming that you never want to make a winter movie. Filming weather doesn't necessarily have to be sunny.
 
Edison is definitely butterflied away, since in OTL his father fled Nova Scotia for the United States after the Mackenzie Rebellion in 1837 (yay wiki for that tidbit :p). I'm thinking the movie industry will be centered around Memphis or the Ozarks, since that will also encourage the growth of the Mississippi River metropolis.

Memphis is okay, but why not consider Nashville? Nobody's ever done a film industry centered in Opry Town before. :D ;)
 
Well, that's assuming that you never want to make a winter movie. Filming weather doesn't necessarily have to be sunny.

A lot of winter movies are still filmed in the summer but using fake snow. This is actually the great majority of hollywood christmas films. Not because it doesn't snow in LA but because it is easier. Filming in snow or cold weather is pretty hard. Snow presents continuity issues. While 4am call schedules would be impossible in Chicago winter weather.
 
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This is a lot of winter movies are still filmed in the summer but using fake snow. This is actually the great majority of hollywood christmas films. Not because it doesn't snow in LA but because it is easier. Filming in snow or cold weather is pretty hard. Snow presents continuity issues. While 4am call schedules would be impossible in Chicago winter weather.

I see. How warm is Memphis?
 
Somehow my thoughts just went to Hitler and Stalin tweeting...
:D I'm unsure whether they'll be around due to butterflies, but Hitler will probably make an appearance somewhere since he's pretty much a multiversal constant of some sort.

Nice timeline, I loved it when you created a state that was the shape of Oregon, but you didnt call it Oregon, but Champoeg!
Thanks! I've always been annoyed how the name Oregon seems to be only applied to a state in that area, when the Oregon Territory covered plenty more land.

Wilcox, now that Oregon was mentioned I do have a question about it. Later on how much will the residents of the NW corner (the states made up of the Oregon territory) will identify with the rest of the US. Even in OTL Oregon and Washington are arguably unique in their own way. The whole west coast (include California) is also seen (jokingly) as a whole other land. As they say:
"it's like somebody took America by the East Coast, and shook it, and all the normal people managed to hang on." With Idaho being the only connection to ITTL's West Coast (for now), and the rest of the US being a little bit more condensed will they have a view of being from Oregon Coast first and the US second?
Oregon will definitely have its own little regional identity due to being to a large extent cut off from the rest of the country for such a long time. What that will lead to, I have yet to determine. But an Oregon Independence Party does sound interesting.

This would certainly be interesting. Wilcox, you said you figured out peer 2 peer tech already. I am really looking forward to reading out it. Because the more I think about it, the teletype, as cool as it is, seems to be more like a telegraph than a fax. It types long distance like a telegraph (but on sheet on paper in latin script instead of morse on a tickertape), unlike a fax which copies and prints documents. It would still be a huge leap in the communication industry, and probably a great tool for journalism. But not sure how revolutionary it is.

Regardless the TL is still really exciting.
Well, this isn't really a fax-type technology for sending full documents (that already existed in OTL in the late 19th century) as it is an IM/email-ish tech. I'm not sure if getting full web page equivalents are doable (storing the site characters as indentations on drums perhaps to send the signals to print out the page?). And I still haven't figured out how to solve the problem that a lot of paper is going to be needed unless some sort of mutable screen technology can be invented. The individual teletype would still be rather revolutionary IMO as it would expand the basic use of teletype for stock and news tickers to a wide range of applications.

Memphis is okay, but why not consider Nashville? Nobody's ever done a film industry centered in Opry Town before. :D ;)
Well, having it in Memphis would help to develop the other cities along the Mississippi River and help create the Confluence Megalopolis I'm planning. Nashville will still be the central city of Tennessee though, considering Memphis isn't even in Tennessee anymore. :D That just gave me another thought; Chickasaw could give good tax breaks to studios at some point to encourage them to move there.

I see. How warm is Memphis?
Looking at Wikipedia, Memphis has a bit more variable temperature than LA (Memphis is ~90 F in the summer, ~50 in the winter).
 
Oregon will definitely have its own little regional identity due to being to a large extent cut off from the rest of the country for such a long time. What that will lead to, I have yet to determine. But an Oregon Independence Party does sound interesting.

Oregon Independence party does sound cool, even if they are regarded as a bunch of crazies by most people.

Well, this isn't really a fax-type technology for sending full documents (that already existed in OTL in the late 19th century) as it is an IM/email-ish tech. I'm not sure if getting full web page equivalents are doable (storing the site characters as indentations on drums perhaps to send the signals to print out the page?). And I still haven't figured out how to solve the problem that a lot of paper is going to be needed unless some sort of mutable screen technology can be invented. The individual teletype would still be rather revolutionary IMO as it would expand the basic use of teletype for stock and news tickers to a wide range of applications.

Ohh didn't think about the paper. ITTL's forests are going to suffer.
 
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Thanks for the comments guys!

I'm trying not to spoil too much this early, but I'm actually aiming for more of a proto-email/IM thing that might develop into a sort of internet. Still trying to figure out fully how it will work, but I think I've gotten peer to peer stuff down. I was thinking of having switchboard operators for the teletype machines and/or having two machines being on the same frequency to send signals so they don't get mixed up with other machines. Any advice on whether this system would work and how to improve it would be most welcome.

And about the fax machine, the first facsimile machine in OTL was the pantelegraph in the 1860s.

Welp, I'm getting in this really late but I'll toss in my 2 yen. First off, the pantelegraph was nothing but a toy for bug business; far too unreliable, since it assumed that you could keep the two signals in check rather reliably with mechanical systems and the average consumer isn't smart enough to keep things well maintained.

As for building a reliable communications infrastructure, there's some reason we didn't get email/IM/internet before we did.

1. Analog techniques tend to waste power and Bandwidth (BW) when compared to digital techniques.
A pretty big problem actually. Let's say the bandwidth we have available is limited to, say 1 MHz. To have marginal voice communications we need maybe 24 kHz. To transmit information in some discrete method requires less bandwidth but will require interpolation techniques or very well trained humans to interpret the discrete data. The first is a big technological problem (along the lines of developing rudimentary digital processing techniques), the second severely limits the speed of communications. Humans have an upper limit to how quickly they can interpret data, and even to send the basic alphabet plus numbers and punctuation requires over 40 symbols, so at least 6-bit communications. Assuming the average woman at the switchboard (since that's the time frame we're talking about) can follow maybe 3 bits a second, to send a message as short as #1 requires 97 symbols, or 582 bits, or 194 seconds (that's 3'14"), just to get all the data down. To interpret it is additional time, so unless we are sending nothing but 50 character messages (and willing to wait at least two minutes to translate it, maybe more) it ain't gonna cut it. Messaging will be expensive and severely limited, and its just easier to send voice data by analog (cheap and crude, but much more effective).

2. If we are going to transmit data discretely and quickly, then we really need the semiconductor.
Semiconductors are a pain to make right, so that's why we didn't develop them until the 1950s (which is coincidentally the time we really got chemical purification right on a whole host of structures).

3. Until we have digital switchboards, there are very, very real upper limits to how many calls can go through any line.
People, while they can do many things, rarely do them quickly or efficiently compared to computers. Those massive switchboards are one the reasons we developed monopolies for telecommunications infrastructure until relatively recently.

I'll post more later; I've had a long day. I'd be happy to help you develop a real digital and telecommunications system and quicker than OTL, but its going to take a lot of things going right to satisfactorly pull it off earlier; say a decent cellular voice system by the early 1970s (i.e., 2G wireless communications), a decent consumer-centric internet by maybe the mid 1980s (all the protocols, the handshakes, the bit error checking routines could be developed pretty well if there's the right impetus), and the awesome wireless communications we have today (2010s) by the late 1990s/early 2000s.
 
Part Seventy-Two: In Darkest Africa
Since I'm going home for spring break tomorrow, time for another update. My laptop is acting up again, but I managed to upload almost all of the timeline-related stuff so I should be able to keep this going while it's getting repaired.

Part Seventy-Two: In Darkest Africa

The West African Dilemma:
The 1870s and 1880s brought a large period of colonial expansion by all the powerful nations in Europe as technological advances allowed serious expeditions into the deep heart of the African continent. Medical advances against tropical diseases such as malaria made it possible for larger settlements by European countries while larger steamships and refrigeration allowed easier transportation of goods to and from the African outposts and made it possible for Europeans to advance further into the interior of the continent. As West Africa was the closest region of Africa south of the Sahara. it was the first to experience the new-found expansion by the colonial powers.

France, being the most powerful country on the Mediterranean Sea and already possessing several outposts in West Africa, benefited the most from the new round of imperialism. Starting in the 1860s, exploratory missions were sent from Algeria, Senegal, and the Ivory Coast. In the 1870s, France had affirmed its control over the African coast between Liberia and the British Gold Coast, and began expanding inland where they soon ran up against the Toucouleur Empire. In the next decades, the French colonial forces in Dakar and Grand Bassam waged a costly war against the Toucouleur, but finally captured the capital of Segou and established full colonial rule over the upper Niger River region in 1894.

Meanwhile, the port cities on the Gold Coast that belonged to the British and the Danes[1] were developed by those countries. Sekondi and Cape Coast served as valuable harbors for British ships traveling the long route to Cape Colony and India. The British Gold Coast expanded inward in the late 19th century as well after several wars with the Ashanti. After the European Wars, the Danes grew closer to the French and expanded the Danish Gold Coast eastward along the coast toward the French colony in Lagos. The renewed colonization efforts in the region also brought tensions between the colonizing empires. As the British colony in Camaroon expanded north, it came into contact with French colonies on the lower Niger River. During the Congo Conference, France cede to Britain control of the land east of the Benue River, but the remainder of the Benue watershed as well as the Niger Delta still remained disputed between the two empires.


The Congo Conference:
While the colonial empires of Europe were expanding into the interior of West Africa, they were also commissioning explorations of the Congo River basin. As countries set up trading posts and made trade agreements with the native tribes along the river, contentions rose as to the official ownership of the region. By 1890, many of the great powers of Europe had established trading posts along the Congo River, and as the various colonies on the coast expanded inland, the jurisdiction of the colonial holdings prompted a minor crisis when some European countries claimed land overlapping with other powers' river ports. To solve the crisis, French Foreign Minister Napoleon Eugene Bonaparte[2] called for a general conference among the powers to solve the African colonial issues and especially focusing on the Congo. The Congo Conference was held in Paris in 1893.

The main focus of the Congo Conference was of course the territorial status of the Congo River Basin and of the river itself. Early on, the representatives of the several powers attending - France, Great Britain, Germany, Italy, Spain, Portugal, and the United States[3] - agreed that the Congo River would remain an international waterway and that countries would be allowed to navigate the river at will. Despite this, many countries with colonies in the area still demanded land that bordered the river in order to facilitate their trade along the river and extraction of the rubber and other resources that were present in the Congo Basin. France gained the upper hand in the conference and obtained the majority of the land around the river. Germany, which had mostly established colonies in east Africa, claimed land north of the Ulindi River and south of the latitude of Lake Albert, giving Germany the port of Neuwilhelmshafen[4] on the Congo. Great Britain came away from the conference with connections from both Cameroon and from the south, but the southern territory proved to be blocked from the remainder of the river downstream by a series of rapids.

While the area of the river upstream from Lake Bonaparte[5] was navigable, the mouth of the Congo was blocked from this portion of the river by a long series of rapids. However, this region could still serve as a valuable port for the surrounding area. After much deliberation, the members of the Conference decided to give control of the area to lesser important countries with holdings in the area to ensure the neutrality of the Congo mouth. The Belgian colony centered on the city of Cabinda slightly north of the Congo Mouth was expanded, while the north bank of the mouth was turned over to administration by the United States. Under American administration, the city of Banana directly on the mouth surpassed the more inland city of Boma as the area's main harbor city after a railroad was constructed from Boma to Banana. The south bank of the Congo estuary was affirmed as Portuguese territory and continued to be administered from Luanda.

[1] The Danish Gold Coast is centered on the old Danish coastal forts, which in OTL were given to the Brits in the 1860s. These included Fort Cristianborg in what is now Accra and went east to about where the Ghana-Togo border is.
[2] Louis-Napoleon's son.
[3] Some American adventurers had established trading posts on the Congo, which is why they were invited.
[4] OTL Kisingani, DRC.
[5] OTL Pool Malebo, where Kinshasa and Brazzaville are.
 
Since it was the American "adventurers" who had established the trading posts, did they get compensation from the US government? I'm assuming the territory is now government-administered, making it a colony.

In any case, great update! Keep up the good work!
 
This is turning into a Frenchwank!

One thing I don't get is how the US were awarded the land on the mouth of the Congo. As the Belgians seem to own the OTL French Congo, this seems to be making it extremely hard for the French to get goods in and out of their colony.
 

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I think the Euros just made a big mistake giving the USA the Congo that place comes with a sorts of diseases like colonial fever.:D
 
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