Union and Liberty: An American TL

Got everything backed up onto a flash drive, so I can keep working on the updates on the campus computers. The next update should be done tomorrow or Monday. Unfortunately this means no more maps for the time being since I don't have access to Photoshop anymore. :(
 
Excellent. Keep it up wilcoxchar! I've been reading this thread ever since it started and I'm hooked. Too bad about the maps, though :(. All your maps are really well-done.
 
No! No! No!
Whew, good thing it's fiction! Popular soccer (Football is spelled s-o-c-c-e-r) in the USA. Yuck! Dystopia.

I think its a great thing Wilcox kept American Handegg out of the TL. Football is a much better sport, and the detail of keeping New England and Tejas as separate "national teams" ala Englan/Scotland of OTL was cool.

Football a much more fervent sport than its American imitation (and baseball even) might keep regional differences and diversity much more alive IITL.

I am still hoping for a language/education act that will allow Calhoun to stay Dutch-speaking, the upper-midwest German, and Tejas & Cuba hispanophone.
And my guess is it will also allow for ethnic enclaves all over the place.
 
Can't you do maps on Paint? That's how I do it :D
Well, I'm using the campus computers now and I don't really like working with Paint. And I don't have much access to the basemaps I've been using now.

No. American Football is a much better sport. Look, see I won the argument.

Anyway.

Keeping Calhoun Dutch *would* be cool.
I prefer real (i.e. European) football, but that's just my opinion. I also agree with jycee that real football becoming popular in the United States would help various parts of the country maintain stronger regional identities. But don't worry, some variation on rugby will probably become a major sport in the US later. :)
 
Part Sixty-Two: Order From Chaos
I've got most of this update done, but some of it is still on my laptop and apparently I had to format the flash drive again so everything's still not backed up. :( I'll post what I have now and get the other stuff finished and added once I back up the files again.

Part Sixty-Two: Order From Chaos

The State of Illyria: After Galizien and Moravia were stabilized as independent states, the rest of the former Habsburg lands remained in a state of disorder for several years. However, by 1880, the region was finally coalescing into a small number of political entities. In Austria proper, two main polities that emerged as the dominant countries. The Slovene lands and southern Austria were merged into the Illyrian Republic as local cities formed together to stabilize the region. From 1876 to 1879, Illyria was ruled by a Cities' Council in Klagenfurt where each municipality sent a delegation and elected one of the delegates to be the Supreme Consul for that year. However, the Illyrian Republic descended into a tyranny within a year after president Hugo Poltermann[1] dissolved the Cities' Council that had originally formed the state.

The Viennese Commune:
In Vienna, the exile of the Habsburgs brought a number of opportunist political groups out of the shadows. A new generation of liberal militants rose up in an attempt to ignite a second round of revolutions akin to the Midcentury Revolutions. While these liberals were somewhat successful, they were pushed back east of the Danube by the local military elements in three months of the uprising in 1872, where it soon dissipated. However, the liberal element lingered in the Viennese underground, and encouraged further revolts in later years. By 1876, another underground movement had been growing in Vienna: a new socialist movement. In March of 1877, the leading aristocrat in the Viennese socialist movement, Gustav von Hayek[1], had recruited a German follower of Hegel by the name of Karl Marx to help direct the planned uprising against the military law that had been largely established in the capital.

Marx and von Hayek made their plans and the uprising began in the middle of May of 1877. The two main worker districts in the city were located in the northwestern edge of the city where many factories were located and in the south by the main railway station. Marx took command of the northern group while von Hayek took command of the southern group. On May 17th, a planned protest in Stephensplatz brought the military to put the protest down. While much of the local militia was distracted by this protest, Marx's group overran the nearby gun manufactory and the military hospital. Von Hayek's group seized the arsenal to the east of the railway station after hours of fighting. From this first day of the worker uprising, the fighting in the city lasted five months before the last of the military elements had been trapped in the city center. The worker uprising now had the support of most of the citizens of Vienna and after a ten day siege of the Innere Stadt with captured artillery placed in the surrounding glacis, the flag of the new Wiener Arbeiterstaat[2] was raised at the top of the Stephensdom. Over the next year, the Wiener Arbeiterstaat would absorb control over the surrounding towns and villages and come into control over all of Austria proper.


The Hungarian Republic:
The nation of Hungary managed to stay relatively together, although Romanian, Serbian, Slovakian, and Croatian nationalist rebellions broke out with varying success soon after the exile of the Habsburgs. The Diet in Budapest continued to function as the supreme Hungarian political institution in the early 1870s, although powers were increasingly given to the new executive position of Chancellor, as the separatist uprisings in the more remote Hungarian lands grew worse. The first Hungarian Chancellor was Hungarian nationalist and poet Sándor Petőfi.

During Petőfi's time as Chancellor, the Romanian and Slovakian rebellions were largely crushed, and a number of nationalist reforms were enacted, such as requiring Hungarian instruction in all primary educational institutions and requiring that all electoral ballots be printed in Hungarian. Many policies were also implemented to crush localized rebellions and encouraged migration of citizens from central Hungary to the outer regions in a process of Magyarization. Many of these policies promoted the Magyarisation of the Hungarian hinterlands and were supported by Petőfi's economic and interior minister Kálmán Tisza.

Petofi was Chancellor of Hungary until 1885 and did much to stabilize the country. The Slovakian and Romanian revolts were quelled and many ethnic Romanians in Hungary fled across the Carpathians to Romania. While these two groups were appeased, the Croatians in the south sought most of Petofi's attention in the Magyarisation campaigns. Attempts to generate a Croatian national revival similar to the one that occurred in Illyria were stamped out and towns north of the Szava River were subject to large forced movements of Croatians south of the Szava River, which the Hungarian government claimed was the natural southern border of Hungary proper. Croats and other minorities were mainly encouraged to emigrate from the country through economics means, and by issuing regional passports. An agreement with the Adriatic League in 1878 was made to increase trading through the coastal cities, but also included an allowance of free passage in the cities for people holding the regional passports that were not from Hungary proper[4]. Many poorer Croatians began emigrating to other countries through this method to seek better economic conditions, and the 1880 Zagrab earthquake only accelerated the exodus as economic conditions in Slavonia worsened.

After the Zagrab earthquake, the railway connection between Budapest and the Adriatic Sea had been severed. The Hungarian National Railway, when rebuilding the connection, moved the railway further south and east, crossing the Szava River at Sziszek. After 1885, Kalman Tisza was elected by the Diet to succeed Petofi as Chancellor of Hungary. Tisza continued the persecution of the various minorities in Hungary and expanded the Magyarisation efforts in all regions. In 1889, the Hungarian Diet passed a law that enforced Hungarian as the sole language in primary schools and made Hungarian the official language of government transactions. Despite major rioting in Slovakia and Croatia in the 1890s that were put down by police and army regiments, the Magyarisation campaigns slowly increased the Hungarian population ratio in the outlying regions, spurred by poor economic conditions compared to opportunities in the cities in Hungary proper, as well as in other countries. By 1900, over 5 million ethnic Croatians had left Hungary, primarily to Italy, Canada, and the United States, and the provinces between the Drava and Szava rivers had become over 50 percent Hungarian.

[1] The Illyrian movement was an OTL Slovene/Croatian nationalist movement in the early 19th century. ITTL after the collapse of the Habsburgs, it got hijacked by Styria during the chaos in order to gain control over the Slovene lands. This is why the country is controlled by a German.
[2] In OTL the grandfather of economist Freidrich Hayek
[3] Viennese Workers' State.
[4] This is similar to an effort at Magyarization in Hungary in OTL, where Hungary arranged a direct steamship route from Rijeka to New York with the Cunard Steamship Company, but the company didn't issue passports to ethnic Hungarians.
 
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Great update, wilcox.

Socialist Austria? Will this state be around for a long time, or will it be short-lived, like the Paris Commune? It seems like an analogue.
 
Interesting. I love the Vienna commune idea, any chance of Vienna staying as a city state while the rest of Austria is annexed to Germany?

Also its good Hungary will have a chance to do better than OTL. You mention how Slovakia and Transylvania are being affected but how is Croatia doing? Also being Magyarised? They generally had a better deal than Slovaks or Romanians in OTL. Plus The enlarged Serbia is probably a threat to them, not to mention they probably see half of its territory as rightfully Croatian. Was their rebellion more successful or are they better off than Slovaks and Romanians within Hungary?

As for Slovakia wouldn't the Russians who now have Galicia as a puppet state would want to gain some influence there?
 
The Irish Diaspora:
This has potential butterflies, & reminds me of something. One, does it affect where, frex, the Kennedys end up? That is, do they end up a *Canadian political dynasty?:cool: (PM JFK?:cool::cool: PM Joseph P. Kennedy, Jr?:cool::cool:) Two, does it influence the growth of Irish gangs in, frex, Detroit & Chicago? OTL, they were major opponents to the Italians & Jews. And, on that note, does Italian unification lead to expulsion/flight of Mafiosi to NYC & N.O., much as OTL? Offhand, it seems you might butterfly the Capone Era in Chicago. (If no Prohibition, which you've suggested, doesn't anyhow.) It might also butterfly the formation of La Commissione & the Five Families, after the end of the Castellammarese War; Luciano arranged hits on both Joe Boss & Sally Maranzano, with the help of Lansky & Ben ("don't call me Bugsy!":mad::p) Siegel. (Could just be, TTL, Uinseann Ó Colla gets to "Lucky" first.:eek:) The end result might be more gang violence,:eek::eek: for much longer.:eek::eek: However, without Prohibition, there'd be no national Mob (Italian, Irish, or Jewish) for decades, if ever. You might get it after TTL's WW2, with the growth of biker gangs, instead.

Something else occurs to me. Does this impact money to, &/or support for, Irish nationalists like Sinn Fein or the Provos? OTL, there was quite a bit of it from the U.S. It seems unlikely to me *Canada, being more law-abiding generally, & more Britain-friendly, would see, or tolerate, this.

One other thing. Does the diaspora affect the development of *country music? IIRC, there was a mixing of German, Polish, & Scots-Irish styles that produced the form we know. It seems possible this could arise in either *Nova Scotia or, more probably, the *Canadian Prairies. (The SW U.S. is more likely to end up with a stronger mariachi influence.) (I recall comments about this in another thread here, but not where; I may have said it myself.:p)
 
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Great update, wilcox.

Socialist Austria? Will this state be around for a long time, or will it be short-lived, like the Paris Commune? It seems like an analogue.
I'm not sure how long socialist Austria will survive. I'd like it to be around for a while, but a hungry Germany could cut its existence short.

Interesting. I love the Vienna commune idea, any chance of Vienna staying as a city state while the rest of Austria is annexed to Germany?
It's possible, although I imagine if Germany does invade, they would want a city as important as Vienna for themselves, if only for the prestige factor.

Also its good Hungary will have a chance to do better than OTL. You mention how Slovakia and Transylvania are being affected but how is Croatia doing? Also being Magyarised? They generally had a better deal than Slovaks or Romanians in OTL. Plus The enlarged Serbia is probably a threat to them, not to mention they probably see half of its territory as rightfully Croatian. Was their rebellion more successful or are they better off than Slovaks and Romanians within Hungary?

As for Slovakia wouldn't the Russians who now have Galicia as a puppet state would want to gain some influence there?
I haven't written the part on Croatia yet but I'll put it in the update when I'm finished. Still trying to figure out what to do with the 1880 Zagreb Earthquake.

Russia probably won't get involved in Slovakia since in TTL they're more isolationist toward the rest of Europe in the 19th century. The reason they got involved in Galizien is to stop a potential Polish nationalist revival.

This has potential butterflies, & reminds me of something. One, does it affect where, frex, the Kennedys end up? That is, do they end up a *Canadian political dynasty?:cool: (PM JFK?:cool::cool: PM Joseph P. Kennedy, Jr?:cool::cool:) Two, does it influence the growth of Irish gangs in, frex, Detroit & Chicago? OTL, they were major opponents to the Italians & Jews. And, on that note, does Italian unification lead to expulsion/flight of Mafiosi to NYC & N.O., much as OTL? Offhand, it seems you might butterfly the Capone Era in Chicago. (If no Prohibition, which you've suggested, doesn't anyhow.) It might also butterfly the formation of La Commissione & the Five Families, after the end of the Castellammarese War; Luciano arranged hits on both Joe Boss & Sally Maranzano, with the help of Lansky & Ben ("don't call me Bugsy!":mad::p) Siegel. (Could just be, TTL, Uinseann Ó Colla gets to "Lucky" first.:eek:) The end result might be more gang violence,:eek::eek: for much longer.:eek::eek: However, without Prohibition, there'd be no national Mob (Italian, Irish, or Jewish) for decades, if ever. You might get it after TTL's WW2, with the growth of biker gangs, instead.
The changes in immigration patterns are going to have a huge effect on the development of crime in the United States, especially if there's less organized crime with no Prohibition. It's too big of an issue for me to comment on now. I do have plans for the Kennedys though. ;) For now, Patrick (JFK's great grandfather) is going to stay in Ireland, although what he or his descendants do I'm not sure yet.

One other thing. Does the diaspora affect the development of *country music? IIRC, there was a mixing of German, Polish, & Scots-Irish styles that produced the form we know. It seems possible this could arise in either *Nova Scotia or, more probably, the *Canadian Prairies. (The SW U.S. is more likely to end up with a stronger mariachi influence.) (I recall comments about this in another thread here, but not where; I may have said it myself.:p)
Well, most of the Scots-Irish immigration was in the early 19th century and came from Protestant Ulster, so that element of country music is already in the Appalachians. Where the Poles and Germans go, not sure.
 
I was able to recover the section on the Illyrian State so that has been added in. Still need to write the part on Croatia, should be up sometime today.
 
The changes in immigration patterns are going to have a huge effect on the development of crime in the United States, especially if there's less organized crime with no Prohibition. It's too big of an issue for me to comment on now.
:cool::cool: Not looking for a comment as much as offering a FYI. I'm looking forward to what you do with it.:cool:
I do have plans for the Kennedys though. ;) For now, Patrick (JFK's great grandfather) is going to stay in Ireland, although what he or his descendants do I'm not sure yet.
IMO, you've a couple of options, if they're not too cliche to accept: make 'em Provos, or PMs of Ireland. (AFAIK, the chances of an Irishman becoming PM of UK are even slimmer than an Irish-Catholic PotUS.:rolleyes:)
Well, most of the Scots-Irish immigration was in the early 19th century and came from Protestant Ulster, so that element of country music is already in the Appalachians. Where the Poles and Germans go, not sure.
Noted & agreed. I was thinking more of NS/NF, myself. Ashley MacIsaac came to mind.:cool: Redistributing the 19hC emmigration had me thinking somebody like that could be big in *Canada in the 1900s-1930s, maybe enough to be an international star.:cool: An earlier Irish Rovers, say?:cool::cool:
 
Oh. One other tidbit I've been toying with. As John Wilkes Booth is a famous playwright, it's only fitting that his brother Edwin play a starring role in his production of Death of a President at its biggest performances (say, tours around the US and in Europe). :cool:
 
I was able to recover the section on the Illyrian State so that has been added in. Still need to write the part on Croatia, should be up sometime today.

It seems that you are setting everything up for a super-Germany. Which next to the stronger France of TTL, can only bring bad news. It is a good thing France now has Baden as a buffer. But something tells me Belgium might hold a grudge against France. If Germany & France ever go to war against each other this is not a good thing for France.
 
Next update should be up within a few days. It'll either be on European colonial activities or what's going on in the Great Plains.
 
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