Union and Liberty, 1864 Elections: You Decide!

Who Should Lead the USA and the CSA

  • USA: Democrats (Johnson/Whitman), CSA: Howell Cobb

    Votes: 7 7.8%

  • USA: Democrats (Johnson/Whitman), CSA: Judah P. Benjamin

    Votes: 35 38.9%

  • USA: Republicans (Fremon/Wilmot), CSA: Howell Cobb

    Votes: 10 11.1%

  • USA: Republicans (Fremont/Wilmot), CSA: Judah P. Benjamin

    Votes: 38 42.2%
  • Total voters
    90
  • Poll closed .

wilcoxchar

Hello everyone. I've reached a bit of an impasse in my timeline, Union and Liberty. I can't decide who should win the 1864 elections in either the USA or the CSA. So I have decided to leave it up to you, the public in an exciting poll!

Here is the information about the candidates and their positions.
Candidate Info

So get informed, get out there, and vote! The fate of two nations depends on it!
 

wilcoxchar

Yay, getting lots of votes in only a day! Thanks so much to everyone who has voted so far.

Right now we have the Republicans winning in the United States and Benjamin winning in the CSA. I'm taking the majority vote on each election rather than the highest single choice.
 

Vosem

When does this poll end?

And also...come on, Johnson! Johnson (at least in the TL; he didn't in real life) is kick-ass! Johnson! Johnson! Johnson!
 

Desmond Hume

Fremont, because Fremont is awesome! I do, however, love the idea of Whitman as a politician; I bet he can give one hell of a speech. (slightly off-topic, in my own timeline planning I've toyed with the idea of "Pioneers, O Pioneers" as a nationalistic pro-war anthem).
 

SilverSwimmer

It will be interesting to see if the US elects Johnson, and then the CSA elects pro-peace Benjamin. Will the US start to look like a bully if Benjamin starts sending out peace-feelers? Very interesting.
 

drakkon

An interacive timeline, cool.

I vote for USA: Democrats (Johnson/Whitman), CSA: Judah P. Benjamin

Keep up the good work wilcoxchar.
 

TNF

This one was hard, but I cast my vote for Fremont in the U.S. and Cobb in the C.S., simply because I don't feel Johnson has been absolutely seeking the abolition of slavery as fiercely as would Fremont, nor do I believe he will properly administer the kind of justice and protection to freed slaves that I believe Fremont and his blend of radical republicanism will.

Plus, I want to see the C.S. completely implode. Union and Liberty!
 

wilcoxchar

Thanks for all the replies and votes everyone!

And in an early look at the polls, Fremont has a close 3 vote edge on Johnson in the USA, while in the CSA Benjamin is crushing Cobb 38 to 13.
 

jycee

Seems that this CSA will be quite short lived. It seems the voters want the war to be over and believe Cobb to be an extremist. (after all in the last US election the Liberty Party only won in two states).
 

CT23

I want to see the Union full/reunited, but not a super harsh post-war settlement (like Versailles) that would lead to perpetual resentment, so I voted Johnson for this story.
 

Troyer IV

USA: Democrats/CSA: Cobb - 7.25% (5 votes)
USA: Democrats/CSA: Benjamin - 40.58% (28 votes)
USA: Republicans/CSA: Cobb - 13.04% (9 votes)
USA: Republicans/CSA: Benjamin - 39.13% (27 votes)*

*My vote...

So it looks like for sure Benjamin will win in the CSA, but the US election is only marginally in the Dem's favor. I love elections.

Keep it coming, Wilco!
 

jycee

Fremont is putting quite a fight. If he wins and Benjamin wins it might lead to an interesting situation. Benjamin will offer peace talks but Fremont would insist on full surrender with a harsh peace something Benjamin will not be able to give. If he does radicals like Cobb might arange something to get him out of office.

On an unrelated note, will there be anything like OTLs northwestern conspiracy ITTL?
 
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