Unified Maghreb -- Post-Almohad

What is the latest opportunity for a polity having most of the Maghreb under their control, stretching from Marrakesh to Tunis? Both the Marinids and Hafsids attempted to do so, although neither succeeded. Ismail Ibn Sharif also tried to attack Ottoman Algeria, but also failed. Is it even possible for the Maghreb to be unified following the Ottomans establishing a foothold in the region?
 
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If you're talking about a local dynasty from the Maghreb, then it's really only the Marinids and Hafsids. Any post-Almohad reunification of the region will have to be achieved before the getting influence there. By that point, I know of no power that could keep up with them.
 
If you're trying to do this after the Almohads, you're up against deep tribal divides and high levels of nomadism that make it hard for a settled state to really exercise control over anything but a few cities. That's part of why power tended to concentrate in a few urban centres, while the hinterlands proved harder to control.

You might need an earlier POD - one in which the Maghreb retains a more urban culture and power can continue to accumulate in cities.
 
What is the latest opportunity for a polity having most of the Maghreb under their control, stretching from Marrakesh to Tunis? Both the Marinids and Hafsids attempted to do so, although neither succeeded. Ismail Ibn Sharif also tried to attack Ottoman Algeria, but also failed. Is it even possible for the Maghreb to be unified following the Ottomans establishing a foothold in the region?

When the Ottomans enter the Maghreb it becomes harder. If not impossible for the entire Maghreb. Although an Ottoman weakness in the 1820s-1830s and absence of French interests in the region may lead to a Moroccan occupation of Algeria. But Morocco needs to change a thing or two before the 19th century.

The last time for it to be possible, the Hafsids were ths biggest candidates.
 
The Ottoman involvement didn't only stymie local dynasties' attempts at building an empire, it also completely stopped Spanish conquests cold. Without the Ottomans, the Spanish position is vastly stronger. Not enough to conquer everything, but enough to interfere where they wanted if they wanted it for sure. Just another thing to think about.
 
The Ottoman involvement didn't only stymie local dynasties' attempts at building an empire, it also completely stopped Spanish conquests cold. Without the Ottomans, the Spanish position is vastly stronger. Not enough to conquer everything, but enough to interfere where they wanted if they wanted it for sure. Just another thing to think about.

That is also true, then again, if Spain wanted and the Ottomans didn't control North Africa, they very well could make a shot for it if they could focus their undivided attention to it for more than a fleeting moment.

...which I don't think ever happened.
 
The problem woth berber states and the muslims in general, is that there was a huge difficulty to keep legitimacy, for either the Marinids or the Hafsids to survive the 15th century, they would need to be what the almohads were : a regional power. For this you need things that maghreb is really lacking, like a pool of heathens whom you can heavily tax or ennemies that you can easily raid in order to get money to fund armies, or you do like Ahmed Addahbi and you go for a plan of production and exportations, thus you can get yourself a solid economical base upon wich you can start developping a country, as in the 14th century, numerical advantage was heavily against maghreb, what I can see, could be a Marinids concentrating themsemves since the second half of the 13th century on urbanizing Morocco and settling all the tribes, before coming up with a black "Janissaries", ending their reliance on their tribes, and beginnig by eating the Zianids Emirates, then slowly subduing the Hafsids. By 1400 the Maghreb would be united, assuming that they repel the portuguese, It gives them another 40 years of settling the tribes in Tunisia and central Maghreb, and thus by 1440 they are a power strong enough to keep the Granadans alive (an optimal scenario for me would be a Nasrid Emirates stretchibg from the Border with portugal anc closing castille from mediteranean sea, and gatting as far as Cordoba) this "ally" could give this Maghrebi state a foot in Europe, but I personally think that this Morocco would have much more to gain if it concentrated on subsaharian states, there is a lot of things to gain there, and with their iberian friends they could easily become colonizers when America is discorvered.
 
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