unification fails timeline

Unification Fails
my first timeline

1849: During the great revolutions Hungary declares independence. the hungarians defeat the austrians and win independence.

1852:Croatia and Slavonia secede from hungary to form the Republic of Croatia. The Austrians support them and they win independence

1856:The Republic of Galizen-Lodomeria is created by Austria.

1859:Austria and Sardinia-Piedmont go to war. The Piedmontese win and annex Lombardy.

1860 March: Most of Northern Italy join Piedmont.

1860 November:Garibaldi conquers Naples but refuses to join Northern Italy.
He creates the the Republic of Southern Italy. In The North the Kingdom of Italy is formed. The Papal States (which keep Umbria and the Marches), Will stay Independent as a neutral buffer between the two Italys.


1864: Austria and Prussia go to war with Denmark. The Austrians, who army grew since 1849, conquer the whole of Denmark. Greenland and Iceland are ceded to Norway-Sweden.


1866: The Austro-Prussian war begins. It lasts four Months and ends in a stalemate with Denmark controlled by Prussia and all of Northern Germany controlled by them. They Create The Northern German Confederation. In the south, Austria annexes Bavaria,Baden,Wurtemberg and Hesse. Venetia is Kept by Austria.

1870: Seeing on last chance for Prussian Domination of Germany, The Emmes Telegram is sent to France, sparking the Franco-Prussian war. Prussia wins and gains Elsass-Lotharingen,which is divided between Austria and Prussia. Prussia incorporates the whole N.G.C. into the Prussian Empire.

1876: All of Luxembourg,Belgium west of the Meuse,and Leige is conquered by Prussia from Belgium.

1884: Northern Italy Conquers Tunisia.

1890-96: Northern Italy Conquers Eritrea and Abyssinia.

1889: Somalia (all of it including djibouti,) is conquered by Southern Italy.

1905: Morocco is Conquered by Prussia

more soon.
 
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Hmm, 1848. Lots of room for change there, and this is an interesting premise and some imaginative idea. But I'm afraid I have to pick holes in this.

-The POD could be fleshed out, but then I can't talk. I'm rubbish at PODs. So I think its okay to take success as read. I'm dubious about the ultra-conservative Austrian regime creating/backing republics. And they could probably rule an autonomous Galicia directly (the alternative is Russia) and persuade teh Croats to bring in the Hapssburgs when they quit Hungary (prospect of Dalmatia, ancientness of Croat monarchy, loyalty of Croats in 1848, etc). All this is really not much.

-You need to change Garibaldi's character. IIRC, his belief in the supreme importance of unification was much stronger than his republican leanings. I also think the north has the power to unseat him militarily (they marched through the Papal States unilaterally to join him). Maybe just having the Bourbons remain in Sicily is a better plan?

-My first main objection: Austria would never annex Denmark. That wasn't the point. The war was fought by the German Confederation as an insititution for the defence of German rights in Schleswig, not by Austria and Prussia out of naked imperialism (not to say there wasn't any).

-My other main objection: the Brother's War (1866). Quite a leap of the imgination, here. If Austria is divided and thus weaker, how can it put up a better fight? Why aren't the Prussians able to execute their historical war-winning stategy? Why does Austria, which fights for a loose Germany, annex German states? If we have a valid military reason for Austria to force a stalemate, we might see them accept the NGF and establish a "SGF" network of sattelites under thorough Austrian control.

-After this, the only real problems are that military aggression by Prussia into an important country goes unanswered, the Franco-Prussian war breaks out in defiance of butterflies, and things are in general thin on the bone. What's happening in the Balkans?

-Keep up the good work!
 
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Hmm, 1848. Lots of room for change there, and this is an interesting premise and some imaginative idea. But I'm afraid I have to pick holes in this.

-The POD could be fleshed out, but then I can't talk. I'm rubbish at PODs. So I think its okay to take success as read. I'm dubious about the ultra-conservative Austrian regime creating/backing republics. And they could probably rule an autonomous Galicia directly (the alternative is Russia) and persuade teh Croats to bring in the Hapssburgs when they quit Hungary (prospect of Dalmatia, ancientness of Croat monarchy, loyalty of Croats in 1848, etc). All this is really not much.

-You need to change Garibaldi's character. IIRC, his belief in the supreme importance of unification was much stronger than his republican leanings. I also think the north has the power to unseat him militarily (they marched through the Papal States unilaterally to join him). Maybe just having the Bourbons remain in Sicily is a better plan?

-My first main objection: Austria would never annex Dnemark. That wasn't the point. The war was fought by the German Confederation as an insititution for the defence of German rights in Schleswig, not by Austria and Prussia out of naked imperialism (not to say there wasn't any).


-My other main objection: the Brother's War (1866). Quite a leap of the imgination, here. If Austria is divided and thus wekaer, how can it put up a better show? Why aren't the Prussians able to execute their historical war-winning stategy? Why does Austria, which fights for a loose Germany, annex German states? If we have a valid military reason for Austria to force a stalemate, we might see acceptance of the NGF and establish of a "SGF" network of sattelites under thorough Austrian control.

-After this, the only real problems are that military aggression by Prussia into an important country goes unanswered, the Franco-Prussian war breaks out in defiance of butterflies, and things are in general thin on the bone. What's happening in the Balkans?

-Keep up the good work!
the events in hungary changed Garibaldi's thought about nationalism. also Austria is more militaristic and conquered denmark as a show of power.
the franco prussian war happned as prussia last ditch attempt to unify germany but bavaria and others didnt leave austria like prussia planned.
 
I don't think it's likely for the southern German states to be conquered, for a few reasons. Notably, a portion of Hesse was subject to the North German Confederation. Secondly, Prussia would be able to rally those states into the confederation against Austria. Of course, all of this assumes that Austria indeed does produce a massive and capable military force out of nowhere.

Additionally, I find it likelier that Croatia-Slavonia would become a monarchy rather than a republic, likewise with Hungary.

Also, what becomes of the Danish West Indies in this timeline, and of the Danish interests in India?
 
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