Nah. To the best of my knowledge we have not yet seen the 145th edition of "Dick Cheney becomes POTUS and screws over America."
Underused American Political PODs/Scenarios?
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Nah. To the best of my knowledge we have not yet seen the 145th edition of "Dick Cheney becomes POTUS and screws over America."
Have we actually seen any specific POTUS Cheney TLs?
The closest I can think of is Rumsfeldia, but, well, Cheney obviously isn't POTUS there.
Orville_third
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I need to do my TL in which McCain wins SC, the nomination and the White House. (I did give away the PoD to another writer on the site.)
I need to do my TL where Bill Richardson is President, with Obama as his VP. Linda Chavez is chosen instead of Sarah Palin, and a lot of other Hispanics play key roles...all thanks to DC Comics making a Zatanna movie.
I need to do my TL where Henry Wallace does not run in 1948, which makes the Chicago Tribune's biggest mistake not a mistake.
I need to do my TL where Bill Richardson is President, with Obama as his VP. Linda Chavez is chosen instead of Sarah Palin, and a lot of other Hispanics play key roles...all thanks to DC Comics making a Zatanna movie.
I need to do my TL where Henry Wallace does not run in 1948, which makes the Chicago Tribune's biggest mistake not a mistake.
What? What? Are you saying we are obsessed with ourselves?
Americans invented humility dammit, you not-Americans should be grateful we freed you back in that war we totally won ourselves.
ANY TL involving the Supreme Court. Alternate Supreme Courts are easy, and IMHO could be groundbreaking. Especially post 1950.
I've actually thought about using this as part of a California based political TL. It would possibly eliminate Newsom from politics (I won't say anything other than that I don't like him). I'd rather not start a new TL while still having 90 years to go in my current one.
I've also thought about the possibility of Hoover dying in 1928 after he gets elected (the Argentines caught the potential assassins in time), making Charles Curtis the first minority President.
The Gilded Age doesn't get much attention. Nothing happened between the Civil War and the First World War, apparently. Except Teddy winning in 1912 and slightly more US imperialism, but overall, I find the period woefully underexplored.
Well, this is an After-1900 forum, but if we're doing any US political pod suggestions, I'd be interested in:
- WI: William Jennings Bryan wins, 1896?
- WI: Somehow, the U.S. keeps greenbacks post-Civil War, rather than phasing them out as IOTL. (Monetary policy TL!)
- WI: U.S. executive/legislative branch structured after Alexander Hamilton's suggestions. I.e., elected president and Senators who serve for life excepting resignation or impeachment in the case of 'misconduct.'
- WI: William Jennings Bryan wins, 1896?
- WI: Somehow, the U.S. keeps greenbacks post-Civil War, rather than phasing them out as IOTL. (Monetary policy TL!)
- WI: U.S. executive/legislative branch structured after Alexander Hamilton's suggestions. I.e., elected president and Senators who serve for life excepting resignation or impeachment in the case of 'misconduct.'
Ah, of course. Been fishing a while.
Bryan 1896 in particular is a TL I would love to see.
So we might have Nixon presidency from (1955 really)57-65?
most people in any post-civil war TLs usually go for Spanish/American War for Cuba. more Expansion into the caribbean and then also the whole annexxation of British Columbia. But mostly as you said, 50-odd years is generally unexplored.
I want a POD which gives us a different Grant presidency, perhaps with the actuall cabinet positions placed with qualified people, and not Grants favorites and people that he practically owes and do not know squat about their positions.
Stolengood
Banned
...huh? Andrew Jackson DID win the Presidency in 1828. And John Quincy Adams wasn't running in 1832, because he'd lost his second term bid in 1828. What the hell?
Personally, a big unused POD for me (outside of Japhy's Ameri-screw TLIAD) is John Tyler getting killed in the Princeton disaster. I'd do it, but I know next to nothing about the nitty-gritty of mid-1840s politics -- nothing, that is, except seeing the awesome potential that killing the two minds behind the secret negotiations over Texas (Tyler and Abel P. Upshur) in the middle of said negotiations, before they become public, holds.
I do have a couple of 20th century POD ideas, most of them even more esoteric than what this site usually propagates -- they all involve popular culture and the entertainment industry. But one of them is early enough to actually start having a political impact on America, which is nice (but I'm not telling you what it is!
).um...Andrew Jackson winning in 1828 kinda happened in OTL. and JQA winning a second term in 1832?um, what?
AJ being assassinated has happened quite a lot.
With rtegards to William Henry Harrison picking another VP, i want this idea explored more....Mangum as his VP
Gaius Julius Magnus
Gone Fishin'
Sorry got my dates confused....huh? Andrew Jackson DID win the Presidency in 1828. And John Quincy Adams wasn't running in 1832, because he'd lost his second term bid in 1828. What the hell?
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Sorry got my dates confused.
The few "James Garfield survives" threads died out pretty quickly or got derailed by cartoon jokes. He seems to have been among the most intellectual/intelligent men to ever be elected President, given his maths and languages skills, and eloquent speechifying.
Leisler's rebellion and the other Glorious Revolution echoes in the colonies.
It's not technically after 1900 but I too would like to see how the twentieth century could be different if Bryan is elected in 1896. If only because the 1896 scenario is my favourite of the current scenario's in the campaign trail game.
Also if someone somehow invented a POD that would lead to Anderson becoming president in 1980 instead of Reagan, that's something I would like to read too.
Also if someone somehow invented a POD that would lead to Anderson becoming president in 1980 instead of Reagan, that's something I would like to read too.
I want to add to those who mention the gilded age. There are some great opportunities to completely shake up the US political parties leading to a different 20th century.
What if Cleveland wins his home state of New York and the election of 1888? With a slightly better performance the Democrats could have held the House that year too, then they might be known as the first "billion dollar" Congress and lose big to the Republicans in the 1890 midterms. The McKinley tariff, Sherman anti-trust act, and Sherman Silver purchase acts would then be delayed as well as the admission of North Dakota, South Dakota, Montana, Washington, Idaho, and Wyoming as states. Then the Republicans could win in 1892 and be in charge when the Depression of the 1890's hits, leading to a Cleveland type Democrat winning the Presidency in 1896.
You could end up with a Democratic party that is controlled by the Bourbon Democrats, and have a longer lasting Populist party until they get absorbed by one of the big two. Perhaps if the Democrats become the party favored by big business the Republicans could turn more toward their progressive side to bring in some of the populists.
What if Cleveland wins his home state of New York and the election of 1888? With a slightly better performance the Democrats could have held the House that year too, then they might be known as the first "billion dollar" Congress and lose big to the Republicans in the 1890 midterms. The McKinley tariff, Sherman anti-trust act, and Sherman Silver purchase acts would then be delayed as well as the admission of North Dakota, South Dakota, Montana, Washington, Idaho, and Wyoming as states. Then the Republicans could win in 1892 and be in charge when the Depression of the 1890's hits, leading to a Cleveland type Democrat winning the Presidency in 1896.
You could end up with a Democratic party that is controlled by the Bourbon Democrats, and have a longer lasting Populist party until they get absorbed by one of the big two. Perhaps if the Democrats become the party favored by big business the Republicans could turn more toward their progressive side to bring in some of the populists.
Justice Kennedy goes with his original gut feeling on Casey, and Roe is de facto overturned in the 1990s.
Bork becomes a SCOTUS Justice.
Harriet Miers instead of Alito
Bush v. Gore goes the other way (while IIRC it would still have resulted in Bush winning, the cultural effects would still be in play)
It rains in Southern California on Election Day 2008.
Perry v. Brown is adjudicated on the merits.
Boxer loses on her OTL first run
White never gets to shoot Milk.
The Church signs off on Mayor Daley's anti-contraception campaign after Griswold.
Bork becomes a SCOTUS Justice.
Harriet Miers instead of Alito
Bush v. Gore goes the other way (while IIRC it would still have resulted in Bush winning, the cultural effects would still be in play)
It rains in Southern California on Election Day 2008.
Perry v. Brown is adjudicated on the merits.
Boxer loses on her OTL first run
White never gets to shoot Milk.
The Church signs off on Mayor Daley's anti-contraception campaign after Griswold.