Btw, would it not make better sense to name Miguel Juan/Joao? That way he could be Juan III of both Castile and Aragon as well as Joao III of Portugal. It would really cement the point of all three kingdoms being under one king.
Una diferente ‘Plus Ultra’ - the Avís-Trastámara Kings of All Spain and the Indies (Updated 11/7)
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I know nothing of how sensitive the iberians of the time were about the subject (I guess a lot), but that looks like propaganda gold: Juan/Joao III regardless from which of the kingdoms the speaker comes from. Numeral controversy cancelled at once.
Yes, that was the point, he's the ruler of all of them. It would make the union perhaps less controversial given Aragon and Castile was to become one and also now their neightbour Portugal. If Juan/Joao/Miguel takes special care to merge Aragon with Castile we won't end up with the Aragonese independence tension that Charles V ended up doing.
The key is to crack Aragon for Isabella II and Manuel because they are gonna be less inclined to be ruled by either a woman or a foreinger. That's why it's smarter to kill of Isabella I in 1503, she has already laid the groundwork for her daughter to suceed her and let Ferdinand live a little longer to make sure Juan/Joao/Miguel establishes a powerbase in Aragon (and also to ensure taxes run smoothly, evidently for the hapsburgs Castile bore the brunt of taxation) with his grandfather as a tutor. He has little he needs to learn from his grandmother, his own mother can supply what he needs.
The key is to crack Aragon for Isabella II and Manuel because they are gonna be less inclined to be ruled by either a woman or a foreinger. That's why it's smarter to kill of Isabella I in 1503, she has already laid the groundwork for her daughter to suceed her and let Ferdinand live a little longer to make sure Juan/Joao/Miguel establishes a powerbase in Aragon (and also to ensure taxes run smoothly, evidently for the hapsburgs Castile bore the brunt of taxation) with his grandfather as a tutor. He has little he needs to learn from his grandmother, his own mother can supply what he needs.
But the real question is... where's Cesare Borgia?
No but seriously, great job. I wish I had the pictures and the simple yet perfect formatting you do mate.
I don't see why there's any reason for the name to be changed; the boy was in the same situation OTL, and he was named Manuel.
With a surviving Isabella can ask her son to be named Juan/Joao instead of Miguel in honor of her brother?
Don't forget that in Aragon he would be named in Catalan, he would be Juan III of Castile, Joan III of Aragon and João III of Portugal.
Hahaha! I knew it! Also please don't kill of Arthur Tudor, Torbald, pretty please. With a cherry on top?
Also, the PoD here is after the birth/naming of Miguel da Paz. The 'John III' coincidence can still happen with any future heir, though.
Don't you worry, Henry isn't getting Catherine of Aragon, that's for sure...
*pheew* That's a relief to hear. Unless you are planning to have her wed old Henry if you kill Arthur...*suspicious side eye*
Sorry, I've been busy this weekend, but my break has started so expect plenty of updates in the coming week!
Without having to manage the Spanish overseas empire and only having one front to focus on in the war against the Turk, I hope Charles V is remembered more fondly than as simply a failure. Karl V Augustus!
