UK general election, 1991

Voting intentions on May 10, 1991

  • Conservative Party (Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher)

    Votes: 21 36.2%
  • Labour Party (Neil Kinnock)

    Votes: 22 37.9%
  • Liberal Democrats (Paddy Ashdown)

    Votes: 15 25.9%

  • Total voters
    58
um 2 things, one there was NO election in 1991, there was a election on 9 April 1992, and 2 the Conservative Leader was John Major not Margaret Thatcher, :confused:


I'm guessing that this is an alternate history. *shrug*

I'm voting Kinnock. We're alright! We're alright!
 
Here's some polling data. This is six months after Gulf I...

CONFIDENTIAL: SAATCHI SOUNDINGS

CONSERVATIVE: 47%

LABOUR: 43%
LIBERAL DEMOCRAT: 10%

MOE: 2.5%

SEAT PROJECTIONS:

CONSERVATIVE: 349 SEATS
LABOUR: 296 SEATS
LIBERAL DEMOCRAT: 16 SEATS

MAJORITY: 22 SEATS

REC'D FOCUS: MIDLANDS, GLC

 
Here's some polling data. This is six months after Gulf I...

CONFIDENTIAL: SAATCHI SOUNDINGS

CONSERVATIVE: 47%

LABOUR: 43%
LIBERAL DEMOCRAT: 10%

MOE: 2.5%

SEAT PROJECTIONS:

CONSERVATIVE: 349 SEATS
LABOUR: 296 SEATS
LIBERAL DEMOCRAT: 16 SEATS

MAJORITY: 22 SEATS

REC'D FOCUS: MIDLANDS, GLC


hee hee hee


ya no, the Tories will go down in flames, leaving Labour and Libdems to rule the UK for the next 1,000 years, thats what happens when AH.com are the only people voting :D
 

hammo1j

Donor
For sure Maggie would have lost it and Kinnochio and co would be in with a small majority.

But the ERM fiasco would be Labour's baby and the Tories would win in 1997 which would mean no Blair/Brown and we wouldn't be in this mess we are in today.

So retrospectively I would vote Labour.
 
Thatchers a no-go for me yet Kinnock is an idiot.

Still Ashdowns way to weak so its gonna have to be Kinnock.
 
For sure Maggie would have lost it and Kinnochio and co would be in with a small majority.

But the ERM fiasco would be Labour's baby and the Tories would win in 1997 which would mean no Blair/Brown and we wouldn't be in this mess we are in today.

So retrospectively I would vote Labour.

I know the OPer is pretty conservative, but I don't think he provided us with a Torywank option in the poll.
 
All incumbencies come to an end eventually. As much as I'd like to have had Tories in power for the last twelve years in the UK, it's better this way, so we get a longer run starting next year. I'll surrender an election in '92 or '97 if I can beat King's record later ;).
 
If their had been a Thatcher V Kinnock election in 1991, it would have been held in early June, Thatcher thought June her lucky month.
I think it would have been a very, narrow Thatcher win say 5-10 seats, or a Hung parliament.
 
1991 election. Clearly going to be a Thatcher win, not a massive win but a small workable majority. Although as someone else mentioned Maggie was gone by this point, and unless her party saw sense then she wasn't likely to stay
 

perfectgeneral

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Thatchers a no-go for me yet Kinnock is an idiot.

Still Ashdowns way to weak so its gonna have to be Kinnock.

Ashdown's as weak as the British electorate make him. Much more of a statesman than Kinnock. Kinnock did loads to reform his party into an electable form, but made a terrible figure head for the country. Paddy never got the party machine that he deserved. Where are they now?

leader of the Liberal Democrats from 1988 until August 1999; later he was the international High Representative for Bosnia and Herzegovina from 27 May 2002 to 30 May 2006, following his vigourous lobbying for military action against Yugoslavia in the 1990s. He was knighted (KBE) in 2000 and became a life peer as Baron Ashdown of Norton-sub-Hamdon, of Norton Sub Hamdon in the County of Somerset in the House of Lords after retiring from the Commons in 2001. A gifted polyglot, Ashdown is fluent in Mandarin Chinese and other languages*. He was made a Knight Grand Cross of the Most Distinguished Order of Saint Michael and Saint George (GCMG) in the New Year Honours 2006. In his 2009 autobiography, he revealed that he has worked as a spy for British intelligence.[1]
Labour Party leader from 1983 to 1992, when he resigned after being defeated in the 1992 general election. He served as a UK Commissioner of the European Commission from 1995 until 2004, and is now Chairman of the British Council and President of Cardiff University.
Margaret Thatcher became a peer in House of Lords in 1992 by the bestowal of a life peerage as Baroness Thatcher, of Kesteven in the County of Lincolnshire.
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From 1993 to 2000, Lady Thatcher served as Chancellor of the College of William and Mary in Virginia, which, established by Royal Charter in 1693, is the sole royal foundation in the contiguous United States. She was also Chancellor of the University of Buckingham, the UK's only private university.
The electoral system is broken.

*Ashdown rightly enjoys a reputation for being skilled with languages. After all, how many others in the House of Commons had taken a first class degree in Chinese, can speak Malay - or indeed dyak - the language of the head hunters of Borneo?
 
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As Chief Electoral Officer, the polls have closed.

FINAL RESULTS:

CONSERVATIVE: 44.3% PV, 344 SEATS
LABOUR: 40.2% PV, 297 SEATS
LIBERAL DEMOCRAT: 16.5% PV, 10 SEATS

INCUMBENT PRIME MINISTER: MARGARET THATCHER (CON)

MAJORITY: 17 SEATS

THANK YOU FOR VOTING.
 
As Chief Electoral Officer, the polls have closed.

FINAL RESULTS:

CONSERVATIVE: 44.3% PV, 344 SEATS
LABOUR: 40.2% PV, 297 SEATS
LIBERAL DEMOCRAT: 16.5% PV, 10 SEATS

INCUMBENT PRIME MINISTER: MARGARET THATCHER (CON)

MAJORITY: 17 SEATS

THANK YOU FOR VOTING.

Crikey, a fourth term for Thatcher. I suspect she'll leave voluntarily though, perhaps in May 1994 after fifteen years as Prime Minister.

This may have some quite interesting effects for the country. In her memoirs, she regretted at never having time to attempt to rebuild the communities that had been broken by the Miners' Strike, and never being able to implement "Social Thatcherism"- ie the policies of saving, hard work, and family life. Instead what followed her was the greed and corruption that led ultimately to the 2007 credit crunch. With an extra few years of Mrs Thatcher, the country could possibly, just possibly, be spared some of the worse aspects of the recession.
 

perfectgeneral

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"Social Thatcherism" :eek:

National Socialism more like. The Results differ from those reported.

C45%, L34%, LD21%

Okay now this has to go in Chat.
 
OK then, here are updated results. Rigged elections are called "Daley rules", and I don't think anyone should call a democrat a Nazi.

CONSERVATIVE: 45% PV, 367 SEATS
LABOUR: 35% PV, 240 SEATS
LIBERAL DEMOCRAT: 44 SEATS, 21% PV

INCUMBENT PRIME MINISTER: MARGARET THATCHER (CON)

 
I think it would have been a very, narrow Thatcher win say 5-10 seats, or a Hung parliament.

Which would be worse than losing the election, incidentally. But I hugely doubt Thatcher would win a post-Gulf election. She'd be already crippled by party infighting (she can either compromise with 'the coalition', or shaft it, either way she's in deep doo-doo with half the party) and saddled with the poll tax.

It's hard to discern from the polling numbers what would happen after Gulf - Major's personal popularity went skyrocketing, but the Tories' numbers as a party were really no better from the point he'd taken over. (I.E, small-to-insignificant lead over Labour) And bear in mind that Major was riding on a wave of being the new boy, the unknown who people could project onto. Thatcher won't have that.
 
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