Uberwank Central Powers Scenarios

I Agreed with you monty, and with Zach too, in fact with a 'clean'(not trench and all that) the reward and punishment will be pragmatic and more close to realpolitik...

True. And given that, I think your propositions for peace are a bit to harsh.

I think the French could loose Briey, maybe also Belfort. And they would have to demilitarize their border, probably pay rather moderate reparations, loose some colonies in Mittelafrika. The Germans at the time were very aware that they should not annex territories with hostile native population in the west.

Britain will probably loose nothing and gain nothing.

Luxemburg probably becomes a German state, though. Considering Belgium, I don't know whether it really becomes a satellite, that wouldn't go well with Britain. However, German influence in Belgian affaires will greatly increase, particularly in economic terms, say tarrif union or economic control over Belgian railways. Take as granted that Belgian Congo becomes German.

In the East, the maximum would be independent Poland, Baltics and Finland. Probably the Germans wouldn't get all of this through. Furthermore, these countries will not be the puppets german war goals imagined in later years - even if the Germans manage to get German princes on all thrones.

In the Balkans, Serbia is the smaller price for Austria-Hungary. The bigger price is survival for the time being. Maybe a Hapsburg becomes Polish king.
 
I think colonially Germany's fate depends on how much of their colonial empire (current) has been occupied by Britain. If a lot, then Britain could perhaps trade them back for Belgian independence. Agreed that in any peace Germany would take on the Belgian Congo.

What of Asia's fate?How is French Indochina going to look after France has been screwed in war? Would the Germans take it? Maybe just the Mekong Delta, leaving the rest to local rulers. And Germany's sphere of influence in China would increase, would it not?
 
True. And given that, I think your propositions for peace are a bit to harsh.

I think the French could loose Briey, maybe also Belfort. And they would have to demilitarize their border, probably pay rather moderate reparations, loose some colonies in Mittelafrika. The Germans at the time were very aware that they should not annex territories with hostile native population in the west.

Britain will probably loose nothing and gain nothing.

Luxemburg probably becomes a German state, though. Considering Belgium, I don't know whether it really becomes a satellite, that wouldn't go well with Britain. However, German influence in Belgian affaires will greatly increase, particularly in economic terms, say tarrif union or economic control over Belgian railways. Take as granted that Belgian Congo becomes German.

In the East, the maximum would be independent Poland, Baltics and Finland. Probably the Germans wouldn't get all of this through. Furthermore, these countries will not be the puppets german war goals imagined in later years - even if the Germans manage to get German princes on all thrones.

In the Balkans, Serbia is the smaller price for Austria-Hungary. The bigger price is survival for the time being. Maybe a Hapsburg becomes Polish king.

In a more neutral way... yes i was a little hard(but im compared with the CP resident diplomants...cofofcOKcofofcgeneralzodcocrffc) i was more close to leaning), but several of my scenario means that in the east, russia collapse internally pos bellum and the CP picks the spoils... And for A-H, they are safe for now, when the old Franz die(maybe before because he thing with the victory in war, is life is complete), well... that is a very big worm of can(but a victorios A-H will have a lot of liberties, specially with a clean victory... unless the most radical pangermanist whan to do something but i don't thing that)

that is great idea for a TL...(thinking)

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but several of my scenario means that in the east, russia collapse internally pos bellum and the CP picks the spoils...

Ah, sorry. In this case, the Germans have pretty much free hand, particularly if communists are involved in Russia.
 
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