U Kahlay Katun: The Count of Years

I know it's in bad form to necro something like this without updating it, but I have to ask something, kinda testing the waters if you will. What do you guys think about me making (I know it's ridiculous) a third version of this TL? This is certainly a great improvement over Land of Turkey and Deer, even the name of the first version fills me with shame, but there are still many things I have problems with. Chief among them is that I still didn't do as much research and planning as I really should've. I've always had problems with planning efficiently, I don't go far enough and I don't remember much. Usually I just blunder on with a vague half-remembered idea, and here it shows a lot. So I felt it might be a good idea to start a version three sometime in the near-future. I was pondering making other timelines, but the other options, no matter how much I enjoy their subjects, aren't about things I'm as knowledgeable on or passionate about as Maya history.

Feel free to do so. Third time is the charm, as they say. :)
 
I know it's in bad form to necro something like this without updating it, but I have to ask something, kinda testing the waters if you will. What do you guys think about me making (I know it's ridiculous) a third version of this TL? This is certainly a great improvement over Land of Turkey and Deer, even the name of the first version fills me with shame, but there are still many things I have problems with. Chief among them is that I still didn't do as much research and planning as I really should've. I've always had problems with planning efficiently, I don't go far enough and I don't remember much. Usually I just blunder on with a vague half-remembered idea, and here it shows a lot. So I felt it might be a good idea to start a version three sometime in the near-future. I was pondering making other timelines, but the other options, no matter how much I enjoy their subjects, aren't about things I'm as knowledgeable on or passionate about as Maya history.
Can you at least let me finish reading this one first, please? I otherwise have no opinion as yet.
 
Can you at least let me finish reading this one first, please? I otherwise have no opinion as yet.
Oh, I'm definitely planning on holding off until at least after Christmas. This one is not going any further for sure though, I just kinda skidded to a stop when I realized I made several oversights and didn't really have detailed plans for the post-Cortez Yucatan.
 
Hmm, I've been thinking about something. I already know what I plan to do with the Maya, much the same as TTL except I will keep the Kaan capital in Dzibanche like the first one. But I've never spent as much time going into Mexico as I should've. This time I did a bit more but not nearly enough and I just kinda forgot about them. And when I was thinking about what to do with Mexico for once, it hit me. Now, this timeline has always been centered around averting the Classic Maya Collapse, but what if I actually avert the Classic Mesoamerican Collapse in general? Not only do the Maya cities not fall, but Teotihuacan doesn't suffer massive collapse either and nor do a lot of other Classic cities like Cantona, and the Zapotecs remain strong with their capital at Monte Alban. It would be interesting, but there's still the problem that there isn't much knowledge going around about Teotihuacan, those guys seemed determined to confuse archaeologists. I could just assume they're Nahua or something if I wanted to, but that doesn't feel right. A quandary, really. Or I could just have them fall into ruin and keep Monte Alban. Thoughts?
 
Hmm, I've been thinking about something. I already know what I plan to do with the Maya, much the same as TTL except I will keep the Kaan capital in Dzibanche like the first one. But I've never spent as much time going into Mexico as I should've. This time I did a bit more but not nearly enough and I just kinda forgot about them. And when I was thinking about what to do with Mexico for once, it hit me. Now, this timeline has always been centered around averting the Classic Maya Collapse, but what if I actually avert the Classic Mesoamerican Collapse in general? Not only do the Maya cities not fall, but Teotihuacan doesn't suffer massive collapse either and nor do a lot of other Classic cities like Cantona, and the Zapotecs remain strong with their capital at Monte Alban. It would be interesting, but there's still the problem that there isn't much knowledge going around about Teotihuacan, those guys seemed determined to confuse archaeologists. I could just assume they're Nahua or something if I wanted to, but that doesn't feel right. A quandary, really. Or I could just have them fall into ruin and keep Monte Alban. Thoughts?

I say go for saying that they're Nahua but that would be the lazy route. Go for whatever you feel is right.
 
It would be my pleasure to read another version of this :D
Incidentally the map I was working on kinda got swept under the rug by school work... I'll take another stab at it over the break.
 
I know it's in bad form to necro something like this without updating it, but I have to ask something, kinda testing the waters if you will. What do you guys think about me making (I know it's ridiculous) a third version of this TL? This is certainly a great improvement over Land of Turkey and Deer, even the name of the first version fills me with shame, but there are still many things I have problems with. Chief among them is that I still didn't do as much research and planning as I really should've. I've always had problems with planning efficiently, I don't go far enough and I don't remember much. Usually I just blunder on with a vague half-remembered idea, and here it shows a lot. So I felt it might be a good idea to start a version three sometime in the near-future. I was pondering making other timelines, but the other options, no matter how much I enjoy their subjects, aren't about things I'm as knowledgeable on or passionate about as Maya history.

I would definitely be interested in seeing a new version of this timeline.
 
That was a very interesting timeline. Though I had problems with grasping the geography. I.e. where is Ix?

On the side note, I believe that continuing indenpendence of Maya and other Mesoamerican states is rather doubtful. Looking back to your comparision of Maya domains with India I should remind you that India in the end got conquered by the Europeans. And I think you underestimate the power of GREED.
 
That was a very interesting timeline. Though I had problems with grasping the geography. I.e. where is Ix?

On the side note, I believe that continuing indenpendence of Maya and other Mesoamerican states is rather doubtful. Looking back to your comparision of Maya domains with India I should remind you that India in the end got conquered by the Europeans. And I think you underestimate the power of GREED.
I placed Ix somewhere along the Polochic River, though I don't think I'll be having an Ix in the reboot should I ever get around to rebooting it. As to the second part, well I have an unfortunate optimist streak, I must admit.
 
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