Likeliness of US using a A-bomb in Europe if the soviets invaded a country the US swore protection

  • yes

    Votes: 2 40.0%
  • no

    Votes: 3 60.0%

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Europe had been left in rubble by the Second World War, and the European empires could only remain empire for a short time. Now global politics would not be decided by the demands of London, Paris, or Berlin, but instead commanded by Moscow and Washington.
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Meanwhile in the orient, a new world order was soon to be formed as independence movements and civil war grew.
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But by far the most important development in this new world would not be found in either the timeless cities of the old world or the bustling cities of new, but in a wasteland within the state of New Mexico.
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Here the atom would be split and the ultimate weapon created.
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but these developments would come early to the oldest of civilizations, the heavenly land of china, and the ethnic choropleth of the Indian subcontinent.
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This is my first alternate history, hope you enjoy
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Division Of Europe

In this alternate timeline, Hitler is assassinated successfully in 1944, during the July plot. The German high command reassesses the worsening situation on the frontlines and decides to prioritize holding back the red tide. As such Germany's full might is thrown at the Soviet Union, causing the soviets to conduct a slow advance and a quicker advances by the Allies. the Allies land in Greece and fight their way up to Romania and Slovakia where they meet up with the soviets. By late 1944 the nazis surrender and Europe is subsequently partitioned between west and east, with Romania and Germany being split in half. Yugoslavia falls within western influence, with a liberal government, but exercises great independence from the western powers. France and Italy find themselves having huge socialist movements within their lands, who are rapidly gaining steam. All these realities threaten to dissolve a common western alliance before it has even begun. Meanwhile in the Near east turkey has reluctantly joined the war on the side of the allies, and as the reality of the holocaust is discovered, more jews immigrate to Palestine

Situation in Europe late 1944:


This GIF shows how the war played out ATL, Soviets(red) or Allies (blue) is decided by the amount of troops in that area, so Allied areas can change to Soviet areas.
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If the July Plot is successful, why is Germany partitioned? I thought the purpose of the Plot was to topple the Nazis and realign Germany with the West.
the allies don't accept it, it wouldn't make sense to bring the germany into the west after millions of deaths.
If the July Plot is successful, why is Germany partitioned? I thought the purpose of the Plot was to topple the Nazis and realign Germany with the West.
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War In Asia
after the surrender of the germans, Japan continued fighting. Although the war against Japan has not been won, the victors already started tearing the alliance into shreds., with Mao's army and Chang Kai Shek's china have already resumed fighting. The Japanese, realizing that the war in china is already lost, start arming the communists and align themselves with Mao, intending to leave their conquered lands in his hands and focus resources on more important matters (like the home islands). Mao wanted to use the Japanese support as a counterweight against soviet interests in china and goes with their proposal, although he has no intention of honoring it longer than he had to. Stalin however saw allying with the axis as a betrayal and cuts all ties with Mao, instead directing support to Chang Kai Shek, who with he already saw in positive light. Mao now finds himself having to launch assaults against the nationalists with dwindling Japanese support, and the lands he gained had large KMT support, making them strategic deadweight. It was safe to say that Mao had made the worst possible choice, and the communist revolution would not come to china

On the other side of the world, FDR wished to build up the Nationalist to secure Asia from colonialism and the soviets, with whom a rivalry was already well apparent. He had always been amicable to the Nationalists, and distrustful of imperialism. To build them up he sacked Joseph Stilwell who soured relations with china and replaced him with the legendary Dwight D Eisenhower. Along with Eisenhower a large portion of the US army forces in Europe and other available allied troops made their way into the raj, along with the American war machine. By early may the Americans were recapturing much of the Japanese and maoist land, and launching massive offensive into the major cities. he also authorized large economic aid packages to prop up the Chinese economy for the time being.

battle lines and advances, May 1945:

(I know its low res and pretty bad, but I had a error with alt where it wouldn't let me put in the image I wanted)
I know that this is your story and it's been interesting so far but why would the Japanese arm the communists and why would they accept? Mao can be called many things: mass murder, psychopath, self-centered, someone with no grasp on basic economics, but I don't think stupid is necessarily one of them. As far as things are he was a better military commander than Chiang Kai Shek and found ways to win popular support. Allying with the Japanese would destroy any support he had not to mention he'd likely be killed by the other members of the CCP for doing such an action. The Japanese already had a collaborationist government anyway so this doesn't seem to make any sense.
India Unpartitioned
When the Americans rolled into the raj, it was though of as nothing more than another British colony, albeit a much more important one. That attitude started to change, first within the lower ranks of the army when they saw the effects of the 1943 famine, a far more horrific scene than bombed out German cities.

As the suffering of the Indian people reached America through radio, many politicians argued for pressuring the British government to grant India independence. FDR himself agreed with pressuring the British, and personally met with Gandhi, as well as inviting to Indian congress to temporarily base themselves in America.
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Although British and American tensions started to increase, with the brits pulling out of the less important fronts on the pacific as protest, there was still a sense of unity. Britain also came to realize its hold over India was largely untenable, and started engaging the Indian congress in June of 1945, in the city of Toronto .

Although some within the Indian national congress and British diplomats argued for a separation between Muslims and Hindus, American diplomats and most of the INC agreed that India should not be divided between sectarian lines in order to avoid violence, and so the future of India was decided to be a unified one.

Once the agreements were solidified which was on the 19th of august 1945, The Toronto Agreement was signed. The treaty gave the British a generous pull out date of august 19th, 1946. it also allowed them to pull back all troops still on the pacific front so that order could be restored and Reconstruction could begin. but most importantly the Raj would only be divided between India, Burma, and Sri Lanka.

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I know that this is your story and it's been interesting so far but why would the Japanese arm the communists and why would they accept? Mao can be called many things: mass murder, psychopath, self-centered, someone with no grasp on basic economics, but I don't think stupid is necessarily one of them. As far as things are he was a better military commander than Chiang Kai Shek and found ways to win popular support. Allying with the Japanese would destroy any support he had not to mention he'd likely be killed by the other members of the CCP for doing such an action. The Japanese already had a collaborationist government anyway so this doesn't seem to make any sense.
So the Japanese basically want to put as much men in-between the home islands and the allies who just ended their war in Europe (and sending over their million man armies). They saw the communists as a big nuisance, but nothing more, and though they could retreat from china behind a wall of PLA soldiers. This actually works, and the reds get slaughtered while the Japanese retreat to the home islands with a few hundred thousand more men and a more exhausted enemy. Unfortunately they don't know about the A-bomb.
Mao accepts because he wants to be independent from soviet influence and the Japanese are a good counterweight against the soviets (everybody knows Japan won't survive another year). he was planning to only use them a little bit to get back chunks of china and inconvenience Stalin's plans, but Stalin freaks out and cuts off Mao completely, which Mao was not expecting. He's forced to completely lean on the Japanese, which he knows is a bad idea , but he's left with no choice for supporters. basically the Japanese pragmatically arm whoever seems weaker in the Chinese civil war to kept them occupied, and Mao underestimates Stalin's reaction. it's kinda like modern Syria today that's backed by both Iran and russia, and plays them against each other for influence.

I personally saw this as the best way for the nationalists to win the civil war (a few battles in 1946 probably won't change anything). Also the consequences of him allying with the Japanese will be a major plot point going forward (Manchuria). I have to go change this but the original "alliance" between Mao and tokyo was secret, and only weapons+ "Japanese retreats" causing the reds to take more land

thank you for the constructive criticism though, Im not sure exactly how I want to go through the 1944-1946 section of the pacific theater, so if you have any recommendation for changing some of the events, I'd gladly listen.
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War In China
On the night of November 21 1945, Generals of the PLA carried out a coup in the capital of Ye'nan. The main conspirators were the 10 Marshalls of the PLA, excluding Lin Biao and Zhu de, who stayed within Mao's government. The 10 marshals is a term used for the most important commanders of the communists. They had been sick of Mao's now open collaboration with the Japanese and cutting of ties with the soviet union, and desired him gone. So when the soviets approached them offering to support a coup, they were more than enthusiastic. Stalin had promised open support for the new government and supplied the coup plotters. Most importantly Deng Xiaoping had defected to the side of the coup, which granted the intelligentsia and military someone to rally behind. The coup was planned for the beginning of winter, as urgent matters on the frontlines kept them from beiping, where the communists were based.

The coup was led by Deng Xiaoping, armed with 50 t34 tanks and 3000 elite troops. 3 of the generals, Lin Bocheng, Ye Jianying, and He long were kept on the borders of Shanxi province. They dug in on the mountains overlooking the valley while the coup would begin. This would kept the KMT for intervening, which they were not going to, wanting the communists to destroy each other. The other generals would advance from each of the 5 valleys, cutting off Mao from the outside. They would proceed within the city, taking all the streets peacefully until they reached the city centre, where Mao would be captured and hung.
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Although the first part of the plan played out exactly as planned, Mao managed to use Lin Biao's and his popularity to raise a peasant army which he used to punch a hole through the coup plotters lines. He retreated to Beiping (which was recently captured), and regrouped his remaining supporters. Deng Xiaoping retreated his forces into Manchuria and fully supplied them with soviet equipment instead of holding the line at Shanxi, which was largely infeasible at this point . Many would defect, and the communists would lose most of their territory, including Ya'nan. When the dust settled china was left with two communist governments. One in Manchuria calling itself the Chinese Soviet Provisional National Administration, and known to the rest of the world as the Manchu Red Government or the CSPNA, and the People's socialist republic of china, colloquially known as the Beiping Red government. A ceasefire would be negotiated between the three factions, known as the Christmas truce.

During the ceasefire, the Beiping red government would prepare itself for a total guerrilla war, before it was divided between the larger powers. The Soviets would solidify their relationship with the Manchu red government, making the CSPNA a satellite state like Poland, East Romania, and East Germany. The CSPNA would give the soviets the green light to move troops through their land and use their korean border as a launching pad for an invasion of Korea. On the other side, the US informed the KMT that it was about to drop a nuclear weapon on Japan, possibly ending the war. This meant the KMT had full go ahead to launch a invasion of the Beiping government once the war ended or/ and when the CSPNA broke the truce. The Soviets and Americans also negotiated for the KMT to regain turkistan and most of Inner Mongolia. This outside meddling in china's affairs caused both Chang-Kai Shek and Deng Xiaoping to both oppose the deal originally, but their generals heavily encouraged them to sign on. They wanted to do this in order to begin reconstruction in a devastated China and built up the military for an eventual round 2.

*for clarification the Japanese handed over Manchuria a while ago and mostly left mainland Asia to its own. They only maintain a small garrison in Korea
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Rosevelt's legacy
Franklin Delanor Roosevelt:
he was a man who, above all else, was an agent of change. From his New Deal economic policy that brought America out of the Great Depression, to his commanding of the home front during the Second World War, he stomped on red lines and tradition in the name of helping the people. And he did exactly that, with his citizens living unparalleled lives of prosperity, and liberating many others from the yoke of the nazi and imperial Japanese regime. But by far the most important piece of his legacy would be the FDR Asian Doctrine.

The FDR Asian Doctrine was conceptualized OTL, although not as a doctrine but more a vague set of ideas for post war Asia. He wanted to decolonize Asia, while also recognizing the rivalry America would have with the Soviet Union. In this timeline, due to the early nazi defeat, he would draft and flesh out the Asia Doctrine and implement some of its tenants before his untimely death. The Asian doctrine consisted of a few key points:

1) Decolonize Asia as rapidly as possible
2) Encourage democracy within the liberated nations
3) Have the asians partake in the UN and other postwar international institutions
4) Create a free trade and economic cooperation institution like the European coal and steel community that stretches from Australia to China to India.
5) Engage the soviets through the support of democratic institutions and covert anti-communist activities, although open war should be avoided to prevent deterioration of US-USSR relations.
6) Provide economic and military assistance to struggling Asian nations, including a common defensive alliance between Asia and the United States, similar to the North Atlantic Treaty Organization

These 6 points are important because they would decide the US's strategy in Asia during the late forties to early fifties, and would drive many countries develop their economies and politics very differently than in OTL. Franklin himself however would not Iive to see his Doctrine go into effect, due to his death in August 12, only managing to establish strong US support of the Chinese nationalists, and broker independence for the Raj, two actions that the people of the orient would not forget. Instead his vice president Truman would be the one tasked with the creation of a common defensive alliance and a common economic institution. he would have to do this on top of fighting communism and decolonizing Asia.
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Japan Postwar
On the 1st of January, 1946, at 12:00:00 AM, one bomb was dropped from an B-29 super fortress bomber. This weapon of course was the atom bomb, and four would be dropped on Nagasaki, Hiroshima, Yokohama, and Niigata before the empire surrendered on the 15th of January. the war had left Japanese completely ruined, left with no major infrastructure, no remaining economic sectors, and a whole lot of rotting corpses.

The US established an occupation government along with the Chinese and British, who left most of the decision making to the Americans . The Americans proved to be a very merciful victor, with few war crimes being committed by the occupying troops. the US would clean up the radiation from the four sites, with Niigata being the last one cleansed. They would provide much needed emergency aid for bombing victims, both nuclear and firebomb, which would save the lives of hundreds of thousands. The US also undertook a program of assisting the development of a new Japanese democracy, with a constitution being created by MacArthur for the Japanese. MacArthur would cause some tension between the remains of the Japanese old guard and the american occupiers, but it was limited in scope and forgotten by the 50s.

The KMT would hand over Japanese prisoners, and the Japanese would assist the KMT in whichever way they could, which was mostly leaking information about the Red Beiping Government. The US had also occupied Korea and turned it into another occupied zone. The two new governments and the Chinese would not get along well due to ethnic tensions and genocide that lasted nearly a century, but communist encroachment proved to be a social lubricant, due to the anti-communist nature of all 3 governments. The 3 governments would convince every 2 months to discuss how to create a common security pact and economic cooperation zones, as well as technology sharing and apologizing for the many crimes committed during the many conflicts, although that was most of the apologizing was done by Japan.

Although the meetings were mostly for the East Asian governments, the INC, Indonesian national movement, and several southeast asian independence movements would begin to show up. This was because the American anti-colonial stance and the very soon independence of India was seen as a turning point in the history of Asia, and the independence leaders were interested in attaching themselves to an American led alliance that would maintain more of their independence than Moscow, while still providing more protection from conflict than neutrality.
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Korea Postwar

During the occupation of the allies, Korea would find itself occupied by the soviet union in the north and the united states in the south. The PRK, the dominant part in south korea would elect Syngman Rhee to lead the country in 1947. Syngman was a right wing nationalist, who over time would erode Korea’s democratic institutions.
Syngman would create some tension with the USAMGIK because of his manner of dealing with communists, but demands for more transparency and democracy would be rescinded after the North Asian War. The US government would also fund South Korea during these years, and supply them with surplus WW2 equipment

The first cracks in his administration would show with the Daejeon labor strike of 1947. The strike was led by leftists, which caused Rhee to respond with force. Some leaders of the protests, like Yeo Unheyeong and Kim Gu, were killed by the South Korean government. hundreds of communists were also arrested and tortured by the government. Leftism within South Korea would explode in popularity, against the wishes of the USAMGIK

This crackdown on communism would cause the Jeju island insurgency, which continued into 1957 OTL. However Chang Kai Shek sent an elite battalion to the island which was already trained in combating communist guerilla warfare. Chang Kai Shek also invited 500 officers from Korea into the Wamponga Military Academy for more advanced training. He also sent advisors and volunteer divisions to the 38th parallel.

The Yeosu-Sucheon rebellion would break out, and the South Korean government had a difficult time putting it down as it grew. Japan, wanting to take the initiative before Chang, sent their own divisions to crush the rebellion. Although initially distrusted by the locals and the government, strict orders for the Japanese soldiers to behave themselves would prove to smooth over some of the tension. The rebellion was put down by 1948.

Korea would hold it's first election in 1948, electing the PRK and Syngman Rhee with a 95% majority. Syngman Rhee would take Korea down a path of rapid industrialization by subsidizing a few key companies in certain industries while opening up most of the economy to international investors. Most of these investors at the beginning were American, but over time French, British, Australian, Canadian, Chinese, and Japanese investors would role in to replace them. Syngman Rhee however was not liked by his people, and rebellions would frequent in 1949 before the North Asian War.
China Postwar 1

in 1911, Republicans in southern China would rebel against the ineffective Qing dynasty, kickstarting a series of wars in china that would last 40+ years. the rebels quickly spread and showed promise of uniting china under a democratic flag, but internal politics held them back and then they fractured. The Qing would also fracture into a number of warlords that would trouble the republicans. One of the republican splinters in the south would form into the Kuomintang we know today. The Kuomintang would march north, conquering much of the land surrounding the Yangtze River and northern china. During this, Chang Kai Shek, now in charge, ordered the purging of all communists within his party, and changed the Kuomintang into a more authoritarian nationalist party. He mostly succeeded, but some communists escaped to Shanxi, now under Mao. The other warlords would come into his orbit due to Chiang Kai Shek's own political maneuvering.

The KMT would them fight against the Japanese, starting the first battles of the second world war. Chang would find himself having to take politically disastrous moves in order to halt the Chinese advance, such as flooding the Yangtze and retreating from Nanjing. the nationalists and the communists would form a united front against the Japanese, until 1944 when Mao aligned himself more with japan. The communists would undergo some internal political turmoil, resulting in the creation of two separate communist governments, the Red Beiping Government and the Red Manchurian government. following the North Asian War, china would construct a new model of political development that would last unit the 60s, the Henan model.

The Henan model allowed warlords in the south to develop unrestricted by the national government, and run "special para-military" units separate of the ROC armed forces and their orders. The southern warlords were also allowed to make trade deals as if they were sovereign nations. The only restrictions they would have would be tribute to KMT forces in manpower or money to the central government. They would also not be allowed to host foreign troops or collaborate with communists.

Meanwhile in the north Chiang Kai Shek brought back Zhang Xueliang as a heavily monitored warlord in order to fight off the communists coming from the north. In china's western Muslim areas, the Ma family would keep control, but they were very loyal to the nationalist front, providing some of the KMT's strongest units during the North Asian War. in Inner Mongolia, Chiang would install a puppet Mongol leader to maintain the province while he focused on more important matters in central china. the Shanxi province was ruled by Shang Zhen, a nominally aligned KMT warlord.

The Kuomintang would not extend the same liberties of the south to the north. Zhang was removed from the governor's office in 1954, and was sent to Tilanqiao Prisonin shanghai for holding the president of the nation hostage during the Xi'an crisis. In his home province of Hebei, he had built a number of heavy industries and instituted many popular economic policies, which made him very popular warlord. After his sentence, hundreds of thousands would start protesting, with the largest one in Beiping. The Kuomintang would crack down on these protests heavily, by firing at the protesters and arresting it's main leaders.

The protests would escalate into the Beiping rebellion of '54. The Kuomintang would hold back on deploying warlord armies, instead deploying it's professional national revolutionary army, now consisting of the 80 elite divisions proposed by Hans von Seeckt back in 1934. The NRA would first take Beiping proper in a lightning operation, followed by splitting in all directions to take the outlying suburbs and towns. The second part of the operation took much longer than the first not due to lack of skill of the NRA but because Chiang Kai Shek wanted to preserve the large manufacturing sector in the province. It was the primary reason for the forceful integration into china proper. The third part of the operation was anti guerilla warfare in the countryside, which would be done by special anti-guerilla divisions instead of the NRA.

The NRA would quickly deploy to Shanxi, under secret orders giver by Chiang to forcefully arrest Shang Zhen. He was also very popular for establishing several coal mines, factories, and large infrastructure projects, which made the state very economically prosperous. This was seen as dangerous by Chiang, who wanted to crush his opposition. Shang however saw this coming and mobilized his personal army and a peasant militia. The NRA would also crush his insubordination, extrajudicially killing him. His peasant army would fall apart after his death, and his province absorbed into the KMT. The affair would come to be know as the 1955 Shang affair and mark the end of the century of humiliation in the eyes of many historians

After the 1955 Shang affair, several warlords pressed Chiang to stop assimilating warlords. Chiang when along with it as rebellions of all the warlords plus the existence of the communists might crush his newly achieved stability. He also wanted to go to work on reconstructing the country from a half century of war. in the west 3 semi autonomous republics would be formed for the Muslims, led by still loyal Ba family line. Chiang went to great lengths to assure them that he would not crush them for their loyalty and rewarded them with several new rail line projects.

Meanwhile on the Foreign policy front Dwight D Eisenhower, 34th president would visit china. Along with him General MacArthur of all US forces in Asia would also make a visit. Both of them would agree to a massive 15 billion Aid program for china under the late FDR's Asia Policy. Nationalist China was seen as the bulwark against communism in Asia and potential for a large market for American manufacturers. Ford would open several factories in northern and central china after Eisenhower's state visit.

Perhaps Chiang's most important action during the 50s would be the land redistribution and land tax act of 1952. In 1945 land reform seemed impossible due to the majority of Kuomintang support coming from the landlords, but after the North Asian War, when the communists rolled through much of rural china, most of the landlords were killed. Chiang took the intelligent decision of redistributing land but not collectivizing it, as the communists planned to do. Famine did not end but most were feed and the wars had ended, granting Chiang great popularity. The Georgist land tax was instituted under the act as well, which would fill the government's coffers full of money.
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China Postwar 2
The Chinese GDP at this time was a measly 50 billion dollars, but land tax and increased wealth from land reform added 5-10 billion dollars to the government's income. this was further supplemented by America's 15 billion dollar aid bill. Chiang Kai Shek would set about building a national highway and parallel rail system as a means of building up the economy. Although in America the infrastructure act ended up costing 115 billion, using penal labor battalions and building less than the Americans resulted in a far lower price of 30 Billion over a 20 year period, which was still a lot for the Chinese economy, but manageable.

Chiang in this period utilized a new economic development method from Singapore, which is now known OTL as authoritarian capitalism or socialism with Chinese characteristics. The nationalist government during this period would pick a few successful corporations, subsidize them and offer more government contracts, until the point where they could compete on the international market. The KMT had direct control over the navigable Yangtze river and most of coastal china, and exploited that geography to open up part of their economy to international trade, mainly the west. Corporations could come in and build factories due to ease of trade, lower taxes, and lax worker restrictions, which fueled economic growth. In the southern warlord states, the warlords would give up entire parts of the clique to corporations, building up at the same rate as the rest of china, albeit with less worker's rights.

*disclaimer for the politics of nationalist china. Many things will be wrong due to lack of information. Please correct me if you know more, direct me to places where i can learn about it, or provide new information.
Within the Kuomintang there were 3 factions. The first of these factions were the business owners and middle class faction, which will simply be known as the shanghai clique for this ATL. The shanghai clique used to consist of landowners, but after the North Asian War, most of them were wiped out. Instead the Shanghai clique draws its influence solely from coastal china, where the middle class resides. The second faction is the more left leaning members of the Kuomintang, which will be called the left-Kuomintang. The left Kuomintang's influence came from the growing industrial workers. Finally, Chiang's loyalists clique, being the largest internal faction. The loyalist originally drew from business leaders and southern Chinese peasants, but as time went on more rural peasants through china would start supporting him. This process accelerated with his popular policies during the 1950s. The NRA was made a special branch loyal to the Chiang loyalists clique instead of the nation
Vietnam Postwar
After the Japanese occupation, Indochina was jointly ruled between a northern Chinese zone, a central French zone, and eastern British (later Indian) zone, and a southern American zone. The French wanted to keep Indochina but were forced by the other allies. France refused to join NATO and IPTO in protest and turned their zone into a continuation of their Empire. The French would also refuse to hand over their zone in 1948, attempting to keep it in their empire. However, major protest erupted in central Vietnam, the US withdrew military assets to the French, the Chinese and Indians mobilized troops, and the Vietnamese Self Defense Army moved toward the French controlled zone. The socialist would gain a major victory in France, showing the the capitalists were against France, and stirring waves of protests against incumbent christian democrats
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In these zones between 1945 and 1948 local political parties would be strengthened to reflect the politics of the nation occupying that zone. In Saigon and surrounding south Vietnam, the Americans helped establish the Viet tan, led by Hoang Cd Minh, a liberal reformer. In central Vietnam, the French would strengthen the monarchist faction, the VCML, under king(), due to his collaborationist tendencies. In north Vietnam, the Chinese promoted the VNQDD, a nationalist party led by charismatic Nguyen Thai Hoc. Through the country within the roman catholic minorities, the CLP was proving itself to be popular under the leadership of academic Ngo Dinh Nhu. Other minorities in the mountains would join the communists as Ho Chi Minh’s army retreated into the mountains
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The Vietnamese independence came in July 2nd, 1948. The Allies had negotiated for Vietnam to be united, with all major parties holding a general election in 1950. Vietnam was to become a constitution monarchy, with a parliament, a president, and a national court, under the Saigon constitution. The independence leaders were reluctant to join IPTO and ADTC, but after the Hanoi rebellion, more radical anti-communist parliament leaders pushed it through parliament. The intern president, Nhat Lin of the VNQDD, agreed to it and Vietnam joined both organizations.

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A communist movement was present within the country, led by Ho chi Minh. The communists were fairly popular during WW2 due to their resistance against Japan, but 3 years of the Chinese supporting the VNQDD caused their support to wain across the northern countryside where they were based. The Communists remained popular in city of Hanoi, launching the Hanoi rebellion shortly after independence (1948). The Hanoi rebellion was the communist’s peak strength, with 400,000 soldiers fighting the Vietnamese government in open combat. The national Vietnamese army was able to put down the rebellion the rebellion, and the communists retreated to the easternmost mountains of Laos and northern Vietnam. the communists would attempt to regain their footing there, but joint IPTO-Vietnamese anti-communist efforts would make it difficult for Ho Chi Minh to do anything.

Vietnam as a whole would undergo economic major change during this period. Land reform pushed by the Liberals(Viet Tan) and Nationalists (VNQDD) would destroy millennial old feudal agricultural structures. They would be replaced by a mixed economic system, with the VNQDD-Viet Tan coalition government pushing increased industrialization and mass infrastructure construction at its main economic policy. Many Factories In Hanoi and Saigon would be constructed during this area. A modern Highway and rail line was built in-between the two cities as well, as they were the main producers of wealth in the country. Significant social welfare was also pushed however, with things like basic healthcare, k-12 education, and relief services for the poor being implemented. A new urban, progressive middle class would form during the 50s, which drove a large section of the economy.

Vietnamese society and culture would change as well, with more conservative attitudes towards women and minorities being phased out through the changing the school material and progressive messaging in the government-controlled media. The Vietnamese government did this in an effort to decrease the communist's stranglehold over the hearts and minds of minorities. Although they failed in that task, Vietnam would become a place where people could differ from the norm, which is hard to come by in Asia. The migration of eccentric artists and creators from China, Japan, Korea, India, and elsewhere in Asia soon created a vibrant cultural scene in Vietnam. Because of this migration, Saigon would become “The Hollywood of the East”, replacing Shanghai as the capital of culture and art in Asia. The tourism to the city became a major money maker for the government, which encouraged them to implement more societal freedoms on the population.

*Section on Laos and Cambodia will be separate
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the allies don't accept it, it wouldn't make sense to bring the germany into the west after millions of deaths.
Sorry but this is not realistic

If the Allies thought this way, they would have given Stalin all of Germany

You are ignoring the fallout from the Valkyrie

(The final solution stops before it begins, the Jews are more numerous, the victims are fewer, the Warsaw uprising is more successful, and thus the Soviets are more paralyzed. The allies may take all of Germany, and Germany may get a treatment similar to Japan.)
Quite interesting. Would love it if you continue with this!

Also I have not quoted it, but I saw that you had Indians occupying present day Laos. Wondering how they got there considering the area is landlocked. Was Burma also helping the Indians with this or is it the Chinese?
Sorry but this is not realistic

If the Allies thought this way, they would have given Stalin all of Germany

You are ignoring the fallout from the Valkyrie

(The final solution stops before it begins, the Jews are more numerous, the victims are fewer, the Warsaw uprising is more successful, and thus the Soviets are more paralyzed. The allies may take all of Germany, and Germany may get a treatment similar to Japan.
ok that sounds fair, I think I should do some revisions on the state of Europe. I did account for the soviets being paralyzed and the Warsaw uprising being more successful, that's why the western allies control much of the balkans, although I really don't see east Germany or Poland escaping the wrath of the soviets.
Quite interesting. Would love it if you continue with this!

Also I have not quoted it, but I saw that you had Indians occupying present day Laos. Wondering how they got there considering the area is landlocked. Was Burma also helping the Indians with this or is it the Chinese?
thank you for the support, the thais actually, with some support from china. Burma is going into a civil war, although different from OTL