Tweaks to the Navarrese/Foix heirs

Apparently these are the heirs of Catherine of Navarre

Anne of Navarre (19 May 1492 – 15 August 1532). according to this website married to John of Foix-Candale, comte d'Astarac, a nephew of Anne of Foix-Candale.

Magdalena of Navarre (29 March 1494 – May 1504).
Catherine of Navarre (1495 – November 1532). Abbess of the Trinity at Caen.
Joan of Navarre (15 June 1496 – last mentioned in November, 1496).
Quiteria of Navarre (1499 – September/October 1536). Abbess at Montivilliers.
A stillborn son in 1500.
Andrew Phoebus of Navarre (14 October 1501 – 17 April 1503).
Henry II of Navarre (18 April 1503 – 25 May 1555).[4]
Buenaventura of Navarre (14 July 1505 – 1510/1511).
Martin of Navarre (c. 1506 – last mentioned in 1512).
Francis of Navarre (1508 – last mentioned in 1512).
Charles of Navarre (12 December 1510 – September 1528). Took part in the Siege of Naples during the War of the League of Cognac but was captured. Died while still held as a prisoner of war.
Isabella of Navarre (1513/1514 – last mentioned in 1555). Married Rene I, Viscount of Rohan.



I was thinking what if Anne of Navarre was able to have children from her husband, her children would be related to the Austrian Habsburgs via Anne of Foix-Candale, if Henry II of Navarre dies childless the Navarrese line passes to a family very much related to the Austrian Habsburgs..
 
Apparently these are the heirs of Catherine of Navarre

Anne of Navarre (19 May 1492 – 15 August 1532). according to this website married to John of Foix-Candale, comte d'Astarac, a nephew of Anne of Foix-Candale.

Magdalena of Navarre (29 March 1494 – May 1504).
Catherine of Navarre (1495 – November 1532). Abbess of the Trinity at Caen.
Joan of Navarre (15 June 1496 – last mentioned in November, 1496).
Quiteria of Navarre (1499 – September/October 1536). Abbess at Montivilliers.
A stillborn son in 1500.
Andrew Phoebus of Navarre (14 October 1501 – 17 April 1503).
Henry II of Navarre (18 April 1503 – 25 May 1555).[4]
Buenaventura of Navarre (14 July 1505 – 1510/1511).
Martin of Navarre (c. 1506 – last mentioned in 1512).
Francis of Navarre (1508 – last mentioned in 1512).
Charles of Navarre (12 December 1510 – September 1528). Took part in the Siege of Naples during the War of the League of Cognac but was captured. Died while still held as a prisoner of war.
Isabella of Navarre (1513/1514 – last mentioned in 1555). Married Rene I, Viscount of Rohan.



I was thinking what if Anne of Navarre was able to have children from her husband, her children would be related to the Austrian Habsburgs via Anne of Foix-Candale, if Henry II of Navarre dies childless the Navarrese line passes to a family very much related to the Austrian Habsburgs..

Anne's own paternal aunt is married to Cesare Borgia, so that could make for fun times as well. From various posts on the board, I've seen such matches suggested: Anne/Catherine for Duke Carlo III of Savoy, Catherine/Quiteria for the duke of Lorraine; Isabelle marries the duke of Ferrara (cause Marguerite d'Angoulême hasn't been widowed to marry Henri II, who in this case marries Renée de France); and my own recommendations might be, due to the lack of French princesses du sang available, to use the Albret infantas to build French alliances in Italy (the duke of Milan (whether Il Duchetto or one of Il Moro's sons), the duke of Savoy, the duke of Ferrara or the margrave of Mantua).
 
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I am all for a Borgia King of Navarra !

Well it would have to be either Henri II marries Louise Borgia, duchesse de Valentinois and they have a son (which in and of itself could be interesting) or Louise is born male and marries one of her Navarrese infanta cousins, since IDK that Charlotte d'Albret had rights to Navarre. Unless of course, like in SHOWTIME's The Borgias the king of Navarre offers his bastard daughter to marry Juan Borgia (David Oakes).
 
Well it would have to be either Henri II marries Louise Borgia, duchesse de Valentinois and they have a son (which in and of itself could be interesting) or Louise is born male and marries one of her Navarrese infanta cousins, since IDK that Charlotte d'Albret had rights to Navarre. Unless of course, like in SHOWTIME's The Borgias the king of Navarre offers his bastard daughter to marry Juan Borgia (David Oakes).

That was just for fun ; given Cesare's reputation, one could picture him killing his way to the throne. But the Borgias as a family are too linked to the Spanish monarchy to make such a move. Better being the Duke of Gandia than the King of Navarra after 1512.
 
Of course, Charles V can marry Quiteria and Anne of Navarre can marry Henry VIII - I am not sure of Anne of Navarre's obstetric record because she is barren with her OTL Husband..
 
Of course, Charles V can marry Quiteria and Anne of Navarre can marry Henry VIII - I am not sure of Anne of Navarre's obstetric record because she is barren with her OTL Husband..

Of course I can't seem to find a date for Anne's wedding, so it might be that her marriage simply occurred once she was too old to have children, but if it is the case that they are barren then I should imagine the pope will grant Henry's dispensation more easily if his wife is barren (it's not like OTL where there was the existence of the Lady Mary to muddy the waters).
 
Of course I can't seem to find a date for Anne's wedding, so it might be that her marriage simply occurred once she was too old to have children, but if it is the case that they are barren then I should imagine the pope will grant Henry's dispensation more easily if his wife is barren (it's not like OTL where there was the existence of the Lady Mary to muddy the waters).

Her husband, John of Foix-Candale died in the league of Cognac in 1528 along with her younger brother, Anne of Navarre is the same age as Margaret of Angouleme, her sis in law, who had children in 1528 and 1530..
 
Her husband, John of Foix-Candale died in the league of Cognac in 1528 along with her younger brother, Anne of Navarre is the same age as Margaret of Angouleme, her sis in law, who had children in 1528 and 1530..

Her husband dying doesn't tell us when they were married - or even how long they were married. It could have just as easily been one of those they get married and next week he goes off to war where he dies, and she isn't pregnant. (Although Reichsfurst, Kynan, DrakeRlugia and ranichi all have her producing children in short order (even ranichi's which marries her in the 1520s to François I).

Also, comparing Anne to Marguerite is not necessarily fair to either side. Just because her sister-in-law (whose closest relation to her is back in the house of Evreux (more than a hundred years prior) is still producing kids at 36 doesn't mean Anne is going to do the same. It's like comparing Mary I of England to Marguerite de Valois - both married late, Mary produced no kids (except a possibly hysterical pregnancy) and Margot only had a single child.
 
Her husband dying doesn't tell us when they were married - or even how long they were married. It could have just as easily been one of those they get married and next week he goes off to war where he dies, and she isn't pregnant. (Although Reichsfurst, Kynan, DrakeRlugia and ranichi all have her producing children in short order (even ranichi's which marries her in the 1520s to François I).

Also, comparing Anne to Marguerite is not necessarily fair to either side. Just because her sister-in-law (whose closest relation to her is back in the house of Evreux (more than a hundred years prior) is still producing kids at 36 doesn't mean Anne is going to do the same. It's like comparing Mary I of England to Marguerite de Valois - both married late, Mary produced no kids (except a possibly hysterical pregnancy) and Margot only had a single child.


Yes, I think its maybe because she does not have a chance to be pregnant, she is in the same case as her cousin Germaine of Foix and Margaret of Austria whose marriages were not consummated enough to produce surviving children before the deaths of their husbands, I think Anne would have been a mix of Anne Boleyn and Kate of Aragon if she marries Henry VIII, she might pop 2-3 surviving children for Henry, the problem is their gender.

Anne of Navarre DIED a few years after her husband died..
 
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Anne was fiancé with Charles de Foix, comte d'Astarac (eldest son of Gaston de Foix, dit le Boiteux, comte de Candale et de Benauges, captal de Buch), dead in the siège of Naples (April-August) 1528, avant d'être marié; she was then fiancé with Jean, comte d'Astarac dit le vicomte, younger brother of her firstly fiance, and presumably, having been duly observed a year of mourning, they may have been married at the end of 1529 or in 1530; about the real date of the death of Jean (1528 or 1532), the question is open; error may have been caused by a misunderstanding already reported in 1700 by Anselme de Sainte-Marie in a note: appelé Charles par quelqu'un, called Charles by someone.

François-Alexandre Aubert de La Chesnaye des Bois, Dictionnaire de la noblesse, contenant les généalogies, l'histoire et la chronologie des familles nobles de France, Volume 6, 1773, pg. 457

Anselme de Sainte-Marie, Ange de Sainte-Rosalie, Histoire de la Maison Royale de France, et des grands officiers de la Couronne, 1726-1733, Tome III, pg.384; Tome VI, pg.215
 
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