Turkish War of Independence is Lost

WI Turkish War of Independence is lost?

Do Turks still get a nation and if so how small? Republic of Kurdistan forms? What about other border changes and the wider impact to the Middle East and the world?
 
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But you get the point, rump Turkey will be angry and intensely revanchist. Moreover, it’ll be in a prime position to gradually reclaim a lot of its territory in the same way Nazi Germany did.

The planned Anatolian occupation zones for Italy and France would inevitably be hotbeds of rebellion thanks to geography, more than eager to join Turkey. Kurdistan and Wilsonian Armenia wouldn’t be much safer unless they’ve found a patron in Russia. Greece might have enough British backing in this scenario to hold them off at first.
 
You're going to need a POD which ends World War I much earlier if you want Turkey to be completely carved up.

Perhaps the UK is able to convince Greece and Bulgaria to join the Entente in 1915? Their entry along with the Romanians would collapse the Habsburgs and pave the way for the kind of partition of Turkey you are proposing.
 

Ian_W

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WI Turkish War of Independence is lost?

Do Turks still get a nation and if so how small? Republic of Kurdistan forms? What about other border changes and the wider impact to the Middle East and the world?

Is this the rebellion against the Ottoman Empire, or the Greco-Turkish War ?
 

Ian_W

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There's a bunch of different results, depending on who it's lost to and how badly.

For example, the Ottoman Empire could hold on against the rebellion that became the Republic of Turkey.

The Republic of Armenia could remain a thing.

Alternatively, the Republic could succeed against the Ottoman loyalists, but have Greece retain control of Izmir/Smyrna and the rest of the Aegean coast.

But do a timeline yourself :) Change some things and trace how it works.
 
But do a timeline yourself :) Change some things and trace how it works.

Timeline is at about 25,000 words. But do I want to be bothered with the likely flamewars? Or put the time to turn it into more literary form and translate to English (with said likely flamewars? ) That''s another matter.
 

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You're going to need a POD which ends World War I much earlier if you want Turkey to be completely carved up.

As opposed to the OTL end of WWI that saw Turkey carved up?

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