Istanbul straddles 2 sides of the Bosporous, I don't see why Greece would get the part that's in Anatolia.
No way Churchill or FDR would approve of this.Oh, I don’t think that Greece would get the city itself. The USSR would.
I posted a thread about such a scenario, and someone suggested that, rather than bringing back the name Constantinople, Stalin could name the city after some prominent Soviet official or communist, in the same way that Königsberg became Kaliningrad during this period of time.
Imagine how Christians and Muslims alike would react should the city be renamed something like Marxgrad.
No way Churchill or FDR would approve of this.
The British was to weak to fight WWIII vs the USSR in 1945, and certainly wasn't in a position to fight a war vs Germany, Italy AND the USSR at once in 1940-41.
even before WWI, Russian possession of Constantinople stop being such a big deal because of British possession of Cyprus blocks Russia/Soviet Navy from entering the Mediterranean -anyway-.
They'd probably dust off the Treaty of Sevres, with a few modifications (getting rid of all the "zone of influence" stuff since imperialism was now out of fashion)Soviets try to occupy all they can in the last months of the war.
I assume some sort of partition would be discussed at Yalta.
The US would certainly not be too weak to defeat the Soviets in 1945.I forgot to share the thread that I mentioned, but I will just quote someone who responded to a similar concern:
Do no underestimate the payload of the Avro Lancaster heavy bomber, Britain has thousands on hand and Bomber Harris in command.
Sorry, they have thousands of Halifax bombers and Bomber Harris will be in command in a few months. Big whoop.What are you talking about? No there weren't. The Avro Lancaster only first flew in January 1941 and didn't enter operational service until 1942, with the first squadron equipping in February and the first raids conducted in March. Similarly, Harris wasn't placed in command of Bomber Command until February 1942 so that's also nonsense.
1 by 1943 when allies gain the upper hand most likely turkey will switch sides , their goals of expanding their foothold in Europe at the price of Greeks achievedDo no underestimate the payload of the Avro Lancaster heavy bomber, Britain has thousands on hand and Bomber Harris in command.
Good question but likely be minimal IMHo although most people would not have predicted rise of ayotallah in Iran eitherHow mich do you see post-WW2 Turkey, if it falls under the Anglo-American sphere of influence, see a revival of Islam as a reaction to how secular Kemalism ended in Turkey being occupied when it joined the "wrong" side of WW2?
British logistical studies projected that, given the infrastructure along the Anatolian-Palestinian coastline, the Germans could support four panzer and six infantry divisions through Turkey and into the Middle East and Egypt.
What is this based on? When have turks resented islam and been 'controlled by arabs'Problem is since their initial conversion Turks have resented Arab control over their destiny and identity as muslims
the Turkish leadership seemed to have a full, realistic grasp of their reduced circumstances, also it sometimes gets forgotten that Italy was their second great enemy behind USSR.
if any Turkish leader still dreamt of glory allying with the Reich? quick end to the Iraqi coup likely changed their view?
Early-1941? British logistical studies projected that, given the infrastructure along the Anatolian-Palestinian coastline, the Germans could support four panzer and six infantry divisions through Turkey and into the Middle East and Egypt. British plans of the time were based on the expectation that the Germans would undertake an invasion of Turkey (and feared a quick Turkish collapse, although how realistic that is something of an unknown) rather then the Turks allying with the Germans, but that's an unimportant detail IATL. If the Germans are willing to forego Barbarossa and exploit the Turkish alliance to assault the Middle East, they now have a far better means of getting at the British Empire then across the wastes of the Egyptian desert.
Whether this would be enough politically for the British to quit the war is an open question. It also requires the Germans to see the opportunity in such an endeavor, but there's no evidence they did OTL.
Um ..resented arab control and their attempts to control their Muslim identityWhat is this based on? When have turks resented islam and been 'controlled by arabs'
Do no underestimate the payload of the Avro Lancaster heavy bomber, Britain has thousands on hand and Bomber Harris in command.
And lots of tactical airpower too !May have made Berlin into rubble, but that didn't get a Flag on the Reichstag
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1 by 1943 when allies gain the upper hand most likely turkey will switch sides , their goals of expanding their foothold in Europe at the price of Greeks achieved
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They realize the bigger threat to their geostrategic interests are Germany and JapanAnd the Allies don't apply "Unconditional Surrender" to the Turks because.....