Trying to Please Everyone: Or Converting multiple Pop Culture Utopias into a Timeline.

[TheDetailer]

no because Spector died before he could have shot her.

Yep, good to know that.

The Car crash doesn't happen and he does appear in TTL's Lion King in 1997.

Oh! Nice to know that then!

Restrained and put into a psychiatric hospital after stabbing herself, possibly while under Demonic possession brought about by her guest on the show.

Ah, okay then.

ITTL she was curtailed on several on several elements by a surviving Ghandi, who demanded better hospital care. Teresa and Ghandi actually had a feud ITTL. In Teresa's case she had a problem with Ghana's affiliations with young women. This led to the Vatican stepping in to prevent scandal. Teresa died in 1983 which OTL was her first heart attack.

Interesting! I find it funny and ironic that two beloved but controversial figures criticising each other like this. I was also thinking she passes a way earlier in 1983 instead if 1997 as a sacrifice to all those who live longer ITTL in return.

Remains a reporter on the Left but lacks the Trotskyism of OTL.

Also interesting. He still dies in 2011?

Killed in the 1991 City College Stampede, which he ironically helped arrange. He could in a way be seen as the Sacrificial Lamb for sparing The Notorious B.I.G.

Damn, what a way to go out.

In his autobiography he mentions a young girl named Lulu who he was with when she was pushed by older kids into a creek and drowned at Age 8(1975). ITTL Kelly was pushed into the water and drowned instead.

I was personally thinking that Kelly doesn’t grow up in an environment that would cause him to become a sexual assaulter, as he was abused himself during his childhood. EDIT: Also, now that I’m thinking about it, maybe he would also die in the plane crash that killed Aaliyah IOTL?

Picked up by Justin Timberlake who OTL lost the bidding war to Usher, making them " The Justins" . Aside from that he has a career roughly analogous to his OTL self without some of the weirder elements like his hair traveling, and not saying Anne Frank would have been a Belieber(since she survived ITTL). We can chalk this up to a more level headed and cautious Justin Timberlake compared to Usher.

Nice, I remember CountDVB doing that in his Al Gore 2000 timeline. I think they’re quite fond of that change in particular as I saw that mentioned in a few of their posts back in the day.

 

[Marco Incognito]

Now I wanna know how MHA goes ITTL…

Here's the excerpt from an older Post though since its now older it would need to be revised.

X-Men: Hero Academy(2015-)
Born out of a partnership between Marvel and several Anime studios and Manga artists. The most famous of these was X-Men: Hero Academy. Kōhei Horikoshi was a Japanese artist that moved to America. He idolized Marvel Comics and got the change to work there, revitalizing swindling sales on the X-Men books by adding more focus to the Students and explanations as to how the Xavier Institute functioned while also introducing several new characters into the world that soon became icons in their own right. Naturally, it seemed only fitting that Horikoshi worked on bringing his characters to life in the form of an Anime as well. The series follows Izuku Midoriya, a boy who idolizes superheroes but does not possess the Mutant gene. He tries to train himself to superhuman levels but fails at that too. Then on one faithful day he risks his own life despite lacking superpowers and the Hero All-Might begins to train Izuku as his successor, planning to pass on his powers. Izuku then attends the newly built Japanese branch of the Xavier Institute, which shares a campus with Avengers Academy, a portion introduced to tie into the growing focus of the Avengers in the Marvel Movies. The Anime adaptation began airing on Toonami soon after the second season was halfway completed. The show also had a crossover with Little Witch Academia.

 

[Marco Incognito]

Yep, good to know that.

Also interesting. He still dies in 2011?

Most likely

Damn, what a way to go out.


I was personally thinking that Kelly doesn’t grow up in an environment that would cause him to become a sexual assaulter, as he was abused himself during his childhood. EDIT: Also, now that I’m thinking about it, maybe he would also die in the plane crash that killed Aaliyah IOTL?

From what I can tell most of his family was abusive so one or more dying wouldn't solve that. If he was put in foster care maybe.

Nice, I remember CountDVB doing that in his Al Gore 2000 timeline. I think they’re quite fond of that change in particular as I saw that mentioned in a few of their posts back in the day.

A Gore Prosperous Tomorrow? I never actually finished it, let alone got too far into it.

 

[Nintendogamemaster]

Interesting! I find it funny and ironic that two beloved but controversial figures criticising each other like this. I was also thinking she passes a way earlier in 1983 instead if 1997 as a sacrifice to all those who live longer ITTL in return.

A long time since I checked these, but I feel Mother Theresa dying earlier is something that would be the opposite of an 'utopia'...

Considering that people are asking for celebrities though, Im curious whats happening ITTL with Nintendo´s biggest faces (Shigeru Miyamoto, Reggie Fils Aime, Satoru Iwata, Masahiro Sakurai, Gunpei Yokoi, Eiji Aonuma, Koji Kondo)

 

[Marco Incognito]

A long time since I checked these, but I feel Mother Theresa dying earlier is something that would be the opposite of an 'utopia'...

Theresa came under fire more recently for a lot of things including withholding better care options for patients when better care was an option as well as holding onto donations.

Considering that people are asking for celebrities though, Im curious whats happening ITTL with Nintendo´s biggest faces (Shigeru Miyamoto, Reggie Fils Aime, Satoru Iwata, Masahiro Sakurai, Gunpei Yokoi, Eiji Aonuma, Koji Kondo)

Miyamoto's creation of Donkey Kong is delayed slight;y due to making a licensed Popeye Game, but then begins following a similar to OTL Career, though Super Mario Bros 2 is released Ala the Lost Levels rather than being blended with Doki Doki Panic. Miyamoto, unlike Player Two Start, is not killed in a car accident and lives into the 2000s, but like that timeline Reggie Fils Aime leaves for SEGA as the absence of Sony, who is working with Nintendo on the Playstation means Reggie isn't really needed at the time while SEGA does need him. Iwata doesn't rise to the same position, as OTL a lot of his ideas tended to not really land. Sakurai is more relaxed ITTL compared to OTL but still creates the Kirby games and Super Smash Bros, albeit with different characters. Yokoi stays at Nintendo, different software available to him butterflies away the Virtual Boy that prompted his departure and he avoids the OTL Accident that took his life, resulting in more Metroid games he is involved with. Not much changes in regards to Aonuma and Kondo, who are both active in Nintendo Games even if those games themselves are different.

 

[TheDetailer]

Here's the excerpt from an older Post though since its now older it would need to be revised.

X-Men: Hero Academy(2015-)
Born out of a partnership between Marvel and several Anime studios and Manga artists. The most famous of these was X-Men: Hero Academy. Kōhei Horikoshi was a Japanese artist that moved to America. He idolized Marvel Comics and got the change to work there, revitalizing swindling sales on the X-Men books by adding more focus to the Students and explanations as to how the Xavier Institute functioned while also introducing several new characters into the world that soon became icons in their own right. Naturally, it seemed only fitting that Horikoshi worked on bringing his characters to life in the form of an Anime as well. The series follows Izuku Midoriya, a boy who idolizes superheroes but does not possess the Mutant gene. He tries to train himself to superhuman levels but fails at that too. Then on one faithful day he risks his own life despite lacking superpowers and the Hero All-Might begins to train Izuku as his successor, planning to pass on his powers. Izuku then attends the newly built Japanese branch of the Xavier Institute, which shares a campus with Avengers Academy, a portion introduced to tie into the growing focus of the Avengers in the Marvel Movies. The Anime adaptation began airing on Toonami soon after the second season was halfway completed. The show also had a crossover with Little Witch Academia.

Nice! I like it!

From what I can tell most of his family was abusive so one or more dying wouldn't solve that. If he was put in foster care maybe.

Yeah, I can understand that.

A Gore Prosperous Tomorrow? I never actually finished it, let alone got too far into it.

Oh yeah, most of the political stuff is similar to OTL, but pop culture is where the interesting stuff happens, such as “Project MAY” for example.

A long time since I checked these, but I feel Mother Theresa dying earlier is something that would be the opposite of an 'utopia'...

Some controversial people will just die ITTL in the place of less controversial people.

Theresa came under fire more recently for a lot of things including withholding better care options for patients when better care was an option as well as holding onto donations.

Yep, basically that.

Miyamoto's creation of Donkey Kong is delayed slight;y due to making a licensed Popeye Game, but then begins following a similar to OTL Career, though Super Mario Bros 2 is released Ala the Lost Levels rather than being blended with Doki Doki Panic. Miyamoto, unlike Player Two Start, is not killed in a car accident and lives into the 2000s, but like that timeline Reggie Fils Aime leaves for SEGA as the absence of Sony, who is working with Nintendo on the Playstation means Reggie isn't really needed at the time while SEGA does need him. Iwata doesn't rise to the same position, as OTL a lot of his ideas tended to not really land. Sakurai is more relaxed ITTL compared to OTL but still creates the Kirby games and Super Smash Bros, albeit with different characters. Yokoi stays at Nintendo, different software available to him butterflies away the Virtual Boy that prompted his departure and he avoids the OTL Accident that took his life, resulting in more Metroid games he is involved with. Not much changes in regards to Aonuma and Kondo, who are both active in Nintendo Games even if those games themselves are different.

Good stuff all around! But darn about Iwata, so does he still pass away in 2015 then?

 

[Nintendogamemaster]

Theresa came under fire more recently for a lot of things including withholding better care options for patients when better care was an option as well as holding onto donations.

Miyamoto's creation of Donkey Kong is delayed slight;y due to making a licensed Popeye Game, but then begins following a similar to OTL Career, though Super Mario Bros 2 is released Ala the Lost Levels rather than being blended with Doki Doki Panic. Miyamoto, unlike Player Two Start, is not killed in a car accident and lives into the 2000s, but like that timeline Reggie Fils Aime leaves for SEGA as the absence of Sony, who is working with Nintendo on the Playstation means Reggie isn't really needed at the time while SEGA does need him. Iwata doesn't rise to the same position, as OTL a lot of his ideas tended to not really land. Sakurai is more relaxed ITTL compared to OTL but still creates the Kirby games and Super Smash Bros, albeit with different characters. Yokoi stays at Nintendo, different software available to him butterflies away the Virtual Boy that prompted his departure and he avoids the OTL Accident that took his life, resulting in more Metroid games he is involved with. Not much changes in regards to Aonuma and Kondo, who are both active in Nintendo Games even if those games themselves are different.

About Mother Theresa, Im still not sure, even after said controversies one cant deny she was kind, I stilll feel there should be a better outcome for her, specially considering other AUs end up giving nicer endings to far more controversial people (Example, Spacey in KFP or Allende in Blue Skies in Camelot)

As for Iwata, if he doesnt becomes president of Nintendo, what would be his role? Would he still be present at the Nintendo Directs of this universe?

 

[Marco Incognito]

Good stuff all around! But darn about Iwata, so does he still pass away in 2015 then?

Yes, since they could have discovered and removed his tumor much earlier.

 

[Marco Incognito]

About Mother Theresa, Im still not sure, even after said controversies one cant deny she was kind, I stilll feel there should be a better outcome for her, specially considering other AUs end up giving nicer endings to far more controversial people (Example, Spacey in KFP or Allende in Blue Skies in Camelot)

Honestly she gets off pretty lightly, just a heart attack in 1983 and some pushback to her care forcing her to get better.

As for Iwata, if he doesnt becomes president of Nintendo, what would be his role? Would he still be present at the Nintendo Directs of this universe?

Yes, because he was still a Video Game Designer active on several titles.

 

[Newbie1221]

@Marco Incognito So when Murder Drones episode 8 comes out, would you redo the post about? Because from what I've, the series appears to have been rushed with it's story, which could be extended to like two or three seasons...
Also what happens to Liam Vickers?

 

[Newbie1221]

@Marco Incognito So when Murder Drones episode 8 comes out, would you redo the post about? Because from what I've, the series appears to have been rushed with it's story, which could be extended to like two or three seasons...
Also what happens to Liam Vickers?

Also wanted add about the Murder Drones VS Helluva Boss crossover animation. What happens to that?

 

[Marco Incognito]

@Marco Incognito So when Murder Drones episode 8 comes out, would you redo the post about? Because from what I've, the series appears to have been rushed with it's story, which could be extended to like two or three seasons...
Also what happens to Liam Vickers?

I'll just post a new one. I don't consider a post cemented as canon until I reach its year chronologically which would take a while as I'm currently working on 1998 in Anime, after which I'll do Comics, Film, TV and Video Games and then the rest. There might be some unforeseen butterflies I can't take into account that become apparent when going year by year. That said I was hesitant to respond about Murder Drones because the last episode was coming out and that might have changed the plot.

Now with Youtube's early collapse ITTL(caused by companies like Google choosing not to support it. I felt this was too big a change to not do) Murder Drones is likely to be picked up by one of many video sharing sites, which ITTL are similar to streaming services except free and more controlled quality wise. Now they wouldn't be able to stop someone from posting on multiple sites but this also means there's more of a chance that quality works would be recognized sooner since someone at a Studio would be required to watch them. As such situations like when Hazbin Hotel got picked up by Amazon would be more common. Now Daily Motion would be one of these, but it's likely all the companies with streaming services would have Video Streaming Services. Amazon would probably be the best fit since they allow for more creative freedom and the Helluva Boss crossover would be an actual episode if this happens since both would be on the same platform.

Now I answered about Vickers around the same time as Murder Drones was asked about but Cliffside would be picked up for a show. When Murder Drones does debut the plot likely includes Elements of MetaRunner and Intersection Cube, specifically because if it's picked up as a show. There'd be more Episodes sooner along with a better quality of writing(for example there's be an episode akin to OTL's fan made "Intermission") and Animation. The Amazing Digital Circus would still exist but what is likely happening OTL with Glitch being forced to end a show to use resources to make that show, This wouldn't be a problem here and we would get more of the series. It would most likely be 2D ITTL. This also butterflies away the recent controversy Glitch had with the Animinis and how pricy they are as Glitch being independent relies on Merchandise to make profit but here they are paid and merchandise is handled by Amazon. As well as butterflying away the controversy over not telling Tari's voice actor she was fired. The Consequence to this is however that the SMG4 series is butterflied away(And having watched the entire thing...Good Riddance....Ok just kidding. It never really was my cup of tea and never made me laugh once but it's being butterflied away because a series with Copyrighted characters especially given its Nintendo who is very harsh about this sort of thing is not surviving in this setting without Youtube).

 

[Newbie1221]

I'll just post a new one. I don't consider a post cemented as canon until I reach its year chronologically which would take a while as I'm currently working on 1998 in Anime, after which I'll do Comics, Film, TV and Video Games and then the rest. There might be some unforeseen butterflies I can't take into account that become apparent when going year by year. That said I was hesitant to respond about Murder Drones because the last episode was coming out and that might have changed the plot.

Now with Youtube's early collapse ITTL(caused by companies like Google choosing not to support it. I felt this was too big a change to not do) Murder Drones is likely to be picked up by one of many video sharing sites, which ITTL are similar to streaming services except free and more controlled quality wise. Now they wouldn't be able to stop someone from posting on multiple sites but this also means there's more of a chance that quality works would be recognized sooner since someone at a Studio would be required to watch them. As such situations like when Hazbin Hotel got picked up by Amazon would be more common. Now Daily Motion would be one of these, but it's likely all the companies with streaming services would have Video Streaming Services. Amazon would probably be the best fit since they allow for more creative freedom and the Helluva Boss crossover would be an actual episode if this happens since both would be on the same platform.

Now I answered about Vickers around the same time as Murder Drones was asked about but Cliffside would be picked up for a show. When Murder Drones does debut the plot likely includes Elements of MetaRunner and Intersection Cube, specifically because if it's picked up as a show. There'd be more Episodes sooner along with a better quality of writing(for example there's be an episode akin to OTL's fan made "Intermission") and Animation. The Amazing Digital Circus would still exist but what is likely happening OTL with Glitch being forced to end a show to use resources to make that show, This wouldn't be a problem here and we would get more of the series. It would most likely be 2D ITTL. This also butterflies away the recent controversy Glitch had with the Animinis and how pricy they are as Glitch being independent relies on Merchandise to make profit but here they are paid and merchandise is handled by Amazon. As well as butterflying away the controversy over not telling Tari's voice actor she was fired. The Consequence to this is however that the SMG4 series is butterflied away(And having watched the entire thing...Good Riddance....Ok just kidding. It never really was my cup of tea and never made me laugh once but it's being butterflied away because a series with Copyrighted characters especially given its Nintendo who is very harsh about this sort of thing is not surviving in this setting without Youtube).

This… makes a LOT of sense. But what’s the ripple effects of YouTube collapsing (how) early? (Especially given creators like Mr. Beast, Markiplier, MatPat, etc.)

 

[Marco Incognito]

This… makes a LOT of sense. But what’s the ripple effects of YouTube collapsing (how) early? (Especially given creators like Mr. Beast, Markiplier, MatPat, etc.)

Creators as a whole are forced to try harder to make a name for themselves leading to more shows featuring them rather than channels, or they move to sites like Daily Motion.

 

[Newbie1221]

And look, before you go after me, what happens to Skibidi Toilet. I’d like to phrase that the only, I repeat ONLY reason I ever asked is because of this:

‘Skibidi Toilet’ Film and TV Franchise in the Works From Michael Bay, Adam Goodman — Listen to the Exclusive Interview

Michael Bay is working on film and TV treatments of the controversial internet series “Skibidi Toilet,” with former Paramount exec Adam Goodman

variety.com

 

[Marco Incognito]

And look, before you go after me, what happens to Skibidi Toilet. I’d like to phrase that the only, I repeat ONLY reason I ever asked is because of this:

‘Skibidi Toilet’ Film and TV Franchise in the Works From Michael Bay, Adam Goodman — Listen to the Exclusive Interview

Michael Bay is working on film and TV treatments of the controversial internet series “Skibidi Toilet,” with former Paramount exec Adam Goodman

variety.com

Skibidi Toilet does not exist ITTL.

 

[Newbie1221]

Skibidi Toilet does not exist ITTL.

 

[Newbie1221]

So I know you said you’ll do movies when you get to it, but I was just wondering if Marvel keeps all the rights or not?

 

[Marco Incognito]

So I know you said you’ll do movies when you get to it, but I was just wondering if Marvel keeps all the rights or not?

They do.

 

[TheDetailer]

I‘ll ask about the fates of five more people just so I'm not asking you so many questions in a short amount of time.

- Drake
- John Wayne
- John Wayne Gacy
- Jackie Chan
- Coldplay