TR as Republican in 1912; Vice President? Cabinet?

So, assuming TR is the GOP nominee over Taft (who we'll say has some health issues and gives TR his blessing after a reconciliation) in 1912, and wins...

Anybody have a handy list of most plausible VP picks? A cabinet shortlist?

In the myriad 'TR in 1912' threads this information is suspiciously sparse.

Thanks in advance.
 
I see Theodore, being a major interventionist, would probably join WW1, perhaps ending it much sooner and perhaps even no commies.

The democrats would eventually join the republicans because they had won no election yet, then the republican inflate and you have the progressives(not as progressive as in the modern day as they are republican progressives) and a conservative party
 
So, assuming TR is the GOP nominee over Taft (who we'll say has some health issues and gives TR his blessing after a reconciliation) in 1912, and wins...

Anybody have a handy list of most plausible VP picks? A cabinet shortlist?

In the myriad 'TR in 1912' threads this information is suspiciously sparse.

Thanks in advance.

Assuming Taft announces his retirement early enough, TR will be less "radical" than he was in OTL's 1912 and will try to reassure conservatives with his VP choice--maybe even by keeping Jim Sherman as VP. (Besides, the convention, which in those days had a real voice in choosing the VP, will want to keep Sherman. Anytime in the Progressive Era when the Republicans felt that for electoral reasons they had to nominate a fairly progressive candidate--TR, Hughes, even the Taft of 1908--they balanced him with a conservative like Fairbanks or Sherman.) Which could lead to an interesting situation if Sherman dies on schedule--the RNC decides on Fairbanks again? Unlike OTL, they can't choose Nicholas Murray Butler, because that would mean a ticket of two New Yorkers.

As for Secretary of State, Elihu Root likes like an obvious possibility.
 
Assuming Taft announces his retirement early enough, TR will be less "radical" than he was in OTL's 1912 and will try to reassure conservatives with his VP choice--maybe even by keeping Jim Sherman as VP. (Besides, the convention, which in those days had a real voice in choosing the VP, will want to keep Sherman. Anytime in the Progressive Era when the Republicans felt that for electoral reasons they had to nominate a fairly progressive candidate--TR, Hughes, even the Taft of 1908--they balanced him with a conservative like Fairbanks or Sherman.) Which could lead to an interesting situation if Sherman dies on schedule--the RNC decides on Fairbanks again? Unlike OTL, they can't choose Nicholas Murray Butler, because that would mean a ticket of two New Yorkers.

Wasn't Sherman also a New Yorker?
 
I doubt Fairbanks would reprise the second slot so soon. Instead, I'd suggest MO governor Herbert Hadley: he would help in the Midwest and perhaps border south. As to the cabinet, a few concepts:

State: Elihu Root
Treasury: Charles Dawes
Interior: Harold Ickes (IOTL, a Bull Moose progressive so this may not be so far fetched, even at the tender age of 38)
 
Elihi Root for SecState seems inevitable.

How about Frank Knox for Secretary of the Navy some years early? He got the job later on and was a rough rider. Leonard Wood as Secretary of War?

As an interesting aside, I could still see FDR as Assistant Secretary of the Navy in 1912 as in OTL. This was well before the real Oyster-Hudson split and TR might like a Roosevelt in his old post.
 
I think we would see Charles Evan Hughes, why not

Well, for one thing, he was on the Supreme Court, and I doubt that he would resign for a cabinet position. (He can't be TR's running mate because they are both New Yorkers.) For another thing, TR never particularly liked him.

As long as we are talking about TR's cabinet, Henry Stimson is another possibility.
 
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Elihi Root for SecState seems inevitable.

How about Frank Knox for Secretary of the Navy some years early? He got the job later on and was a rough rider. Leonard Wood as Secretary of War?

As an interesting aside, I could still see FDR as Assistant Secretary of the Navy in 1912 as in OTL. This was well before the real Oyster-Hudson split and TR might like a Roosevelt in his old post.

I thought the same thing and backed off thinking it might be a bit too outside the box, the timing of the split notwithstanding. Glad to see I wasn't totally nuts.
Well, for onw thing, he was on the Supreme Court, and I doubt that he would resign for a cabinet position. (He can't be TR's running mate because they are both New Yorkers.) For another thing, TR never particularly liked him.

As long as we are talking about TR's cabinet, Henry Stimson is another possibility.

True, TR didn't care much for Hughes personally (once he refereed to him as "Charles the Baptist") but if I recall a few biographies correctly, they were able to put aside personal differences to work together. As to Leonard Wood, he was still on active duty and would have had to resign his commission. Stimson's a possibility to be sure. I also should have mentioned Philander Knox for Attorney General.
 
I thought the same thing and backed off thinking it might be a bit too outside the box, the timing of the split notwithstanding. Glad to see I wasn't totally nuts.


True, TR didn't care much for Hughes personally (once he refereed to him as "Charles the Baptist") but if I recall a few biographies correctly, they were able to put aside personal differences to work together. As to Leonard Wood, he was still on active duty and would have had to resign his commission. Stimson's a possibility to be sure. I also should have mentioned Philander Knox for Attorney General.

Not totally nuts, no, unless I am too.

And you're right, Stimson is much more likely than Wood for SecWar.
 
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