Too Sweet!: A WCW Survives Collaborative Timeline

Hulk Hogan d. Cactus Jack in a Street Fight, retaining the World Title. We get this match, but with Hogan in place of Triple H. More hardcore for the bloodthirsty crowd, Foley taking whatever Hogan can throw at him because Hogan's not taking too many bumps for Foley. Hogan puts the chair across Cactus and gets hit with the legdrop for the finish.

Say what you will about Triple H, but he deserves a lot of credit for being willing to get as cut up as he did in the OTL match (and it's one of his and Foley's best from this period)…

And I'm just gonna say it: Stephanie McMahon at this time, as Triple H's evil wife, was a fine-looking woman (and still is in a lot of ways, IMO; I can see what attracted Triple H to her (1))...

Who else thought that?

(1) OTOH, would you want Vince McMahon for a father-in-law, as another site pointed out?
 
Royal Rumble 2000: Part 2

And we have the Rumble. Hulk Hogan, looking fine in spite of a Street Fight with Cactus Jack, sits at the announce table and gives his comments on the wrestlers in the ring.

#1: D'Lo Brown
#2: Grandmaster Sexay

And we start off with “a couple of midcard nobodies” a comment that doesn't go over well with Lawler, and the two start bickering at the table while JR tries to maintain order.

#3: Headbanger Mosh

“A loser in a dress, just like Piper”

Mosh jumps into the fray, making it a three-man scramble.

#4: Christian

“Scrawny Canadian Midget”

Christian comes in, going right after Mosh, splitting up the fights.

#5: Rikishi

“Big tub of lard who shakes his ass”

Rikishi comes in to save his buddy Brian, putting D'Lo in a two-on-one situation.

#6: Scotty 2 Hotty

“How the hell did this guy even get hired?”

Scotty completes Too Cool and the three come together to eliminte D'Lo (30, D'Lo Brown) while Mosh and Christian keep fighting.

#7: Steve Blackman

“He couldn't take my buddy Eric in a martial arts contest, that's for sure.”

Blackman comes in and gets beaten down by Too Cool and tossed right out (29, Blackman)

#8: Mabel

“We sure this ring's been fortified to handle this guy?”

Mabel proves to be harder to throw out here and he tosses out Scotty (28, Scotty) leaving Brian and Rikishi to fight together to try and get him out.

#9: Big Boss Man.

“I've run with Big Boss Man a long time and he may not have a lot left, but I can carry him to a good main event at WrestleMania.”

Boss Man runs in to work over Mabel while Christian tosses out Mosh (27, Mosh) and turns to help with big Mabel.

#10: Test

“And here comes Discount Kevin Nash.”

Test comes in and joins into the big fight against Mabel, and despite their efforts, Mabel just can't be moved

#11: Scott Steiner

HOLLA! IF YOU HEAR ME!

And Big Poppa Pump makes his arrival in the WWF, sending out the Boss Man (26, Boss Man) Grandmaster Sexay (25, Sexay) and making his way to Mabel while Christian and Test break off to fight each other. Hogan clams up for a bit because he knows that he doesn't want to set Steiner off.

#12: Gangrel

“He still works here?”

Gangrel goes after Christian, but Test isn't gonna give Gangrel any help here. Meanwhile, Steiner has gotten Mabel over and out (24, Mabel)

#13: Edge

“Another Canadian midget.”

Edge comes in to help out his buddy Christian, making it Edge/Christian vs. Gangrel/Test while Steiner fights Rikishi, tossing him out. (23, Rikishi)

#14: Bob Backlund

“Oh, this old bastard...”

Backlund goes in on Steiner, getting tossed around and eventually out (22, Backlund) while Edge and Christian finally peel Gangrel off and toss him out (21, Gangrel)

#15: Triple H

“Guy curtain jerks down south and then gets with guys bigger than him. He'll never make it.”

Hunter goes right at Steiner while Test sends Christian out, leaving him and Edge to fight (20, Christian)

#16: Crash Holly

“This little guy is doomed”

Plucky little Crash runs in, takes a Big Boot from Test, Spear from Edge, Pedigree from Hunter and then Steiner tosses him out with a suplex (19, Crash)

#17: Rhyno

“Real ugly sunovabitch, isn't he?”

Rhyno charges in, hits a Gore on Test and joins his buddy Edge in fighting while Triple H and Big Poppa Pump exchange blows.

#18: Ron Simmons

“You ever been in the locker room, JR? Nobody messes with Ron.”

Simmons comes in to help his APA running buddy Test, making it Edge/Rhyno vs. Test/Simmons

#19: Road Dogg

“Wasn't he a roadie for some nobody who went south?”

The D-O-Double-G goes for Hunter, peeling him off from Steiner and taking a beating for it, getting tossed out. (18, Road Dogg)

#20: Al Snow

“Really? I already beat Mick Foley, you think Diet Mick Foley has a shot at me?”

Crazy ass Al goes after everyone he can, eventually getting caught up in the CREW/APA scramble and getting on the bad side of Rhyno. Gore!

#21: Val Venis

“A wrestling pornstar? Isn't that what XPW does?”

Venis comes in and starts going right after Al Snow.

#22: Albert

“Haven't seen a guy this hairy since George Steele.”

Albert goes right for Rhyno, leaving Edge on his own as the two hoss fight.

#23: Hardcore Holly

“More like Baldcore Holly.”

Holly comes in to fight Venis/Snow. We got Steiner/Hunter still going down, Rhyno/Albert, Val/Snow/Holly, and Edge/APA.

#24: The Rock

Hogan suddenly shuts up as he can't find a lot to say to taunt the Rock, who goes to town, tossing out Ron Simmons (17, Simmons) while Test finally gets Edge out (16, Edge) only to get jumped by Rhyno, fighting both Test and Albert (heh) while Rock helps Triple H to finally eliminate Scott Steiner (15, Steiner) before throwing hands themselves.

#25: Billy Gunn

“Mr. Ass? Man, even Brutus got sick of being the Booty Man...”

And here comes Billy Gunn, teaming with Val to fight against Hardcore Holly and Al Snow. Fights are now Triple H vs. The Rock, Val/Billy vs. Holly/Al and Rhyno vs. Test/Albert.

#26: Paul Wight (w/Bischoff)

“Yeah, he beat me once. Heh, once...”

And here comes the Giant and he starts clearing house. He tosses out Val and Billy (14, Venis) (13, Gunn) and then tosses out Al and Holly (12, Snow) (11, Holly) then he tosses out Rhyno and Albert (10, Rhyno) (9, Albert)

Six men gone and now Hunter, Rock and Test start fighting to take out Paul Wight, but hes a giant and won't go down easily.

#27: Bradshaw

“I'd say something, but Bradshaw's looking to be in a bad mood.”

And here comes the third member of the APA, joining up with Test to start attacking Paul Wight, pushing him back while Hunter and Rocky get back to it. Wight tosses out the APA (8, Bradshaw) (7, Test) and makes a move for Triple H and the Rock.

#28: The Undertaker

'Taker rolls his way to the ring, going right after Paul Wight. The two throw hands, battling it out. Hogan once again shuts up when Undertaker is in the ring.

#29: The Godfather

“I remember when he was still a voodoo man."

Godfather pimp walks his away into the match, only to get beaten down, given a Rock Bottom and tossed out (6, Godfather)

#30: X-Pac (w/Hall & Nash)

“Scrappy little kid. Ain't worth much to me, but I'm cool with his buddies.”

And same goes for X-Pac. Beatdown, Pedigree and he's out (5, X-Pac) but Hall and Nash stay outside. Curious...

And we got the Final Four. The Game, the Rock, the Undertaker, the Giant. Who will be the last man standing?

Undertaker and Paul Wight end up going out together. (4, Undertaker) (3, Paul Wight) and it's down to Triple H and the Rock. The two keep teasing eliminations until suddenly Hall and Nash slide into the ring and bundle them both out. (2, 1)

YES! Another no contest at the Royal Rumble! Hall and Nash just ruined another Rumble! Who is gonna face Hulk Hogan at WrestleMania?!
 
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Assuming Jaime Kellner still cancels WCW from Turner programming (and, really, IOTL, it was a mercy killing, given the months of bad programming that preceded this), ITTL, there will be TV channels willing to buy it, given that the WCW programs are still relatively good and it's owned by Disney ITTL (and Kellner will catch hell from everyone at Turner/AOL)...

I dunno how the fuck Jaime Kellner's gonna cancel anything on ESPN, because that's where WCW broadcasts from. And I dunno what duds they've put on in place of WCW over on Turner programming in the year it's been on ESPN because we haven't run a WCW show on TNN since 1999.
 
Thanks, @Megafighter3; I already deleted that post when I realized it...

OTOH, without WCW, TNT managed to start producing more original programming, which led to hits like The Closer, among others (the same thing happened on USA as, after WWF programming left, they started airing original programming like Monk and Psych (1))...

WCW Monday Nitro is probably going to be a ratings-booster for ESPN ITTL (as for WCW Saturday Night, assuming you haven't found a home for it yet, it could work as a late-night program on ABC on Saturday nights up against Saturday Night Live--what do they really run from 11:30-12:30, anyway but, IOTL in 2018, Two and a Half Men and Modern Family reruns; you could also rerun it on Sunday afternoons, since ABC usually doesn't run much on Sundays outside of NBA games and the Indy 500 and other car races. You can't run it at the same time that it ran on TBS, because ABC airs college football in the fall at that time)…

Good TL, BTW...

(1) On a side note, Monk was one of my mom's favorite TV shows...
 
Thanks, @Megafighter3; I already deleted that post when I realized it...

OTOH, without WCW, TNT managed to start producing more original programming, which led to hits like The Closer, among others...

WCW Monday Nitro is probably going to be a ratings-booster for ESPN ITTL (as for WCW Saturday Night, assuming you haven't found a home for it yet, it could work as a late-night program on ABC on Saturday nights up against Saturday Night Live--what do they really run from 11:30-12:30, anyway but, IOTL in 2018, Two and a Half Men and Modern Family reruns; you could also rerun it on Sunday afternoons, since ABC usually doesn't run much on Sundays outside of NBA games and the Indy 500. You can't run it at the same time as you did on TBS, because ABC airs college football in the fall)…

Good TL, BTW...

Saturday Night was pretty much canned since we already had Nitro and Thunder and didn't want to result in the product getting stale with too much programming. And both shows have been doing good ratings for ESPN.
 
That's understandable; I wonder if ESPN people will make appearances on WCW programming (do NOT involve them in angles; just doing cameos is fine) (1)…

(1) Hell, one person I can see making appearances on Nitro and Thunder is Dan Patrick (the (now-former) ESPN host (and syndicated radio host today IOTL), not the lieutenant governor of Texas); if he's one of Adam Sandler's buddies (and makes appearances in his movies from time to time) IOTL, methinks he'd fit right in with WCW ITTL...
 
XPW My Bloody Valentine

10,000 fill the Selland Arena for the second big event in XPW's history. All built on the World Title match between inaugural champion Sabu and the dominant challenger Kaine.

  1. The Pitbulls d. Tommy Dreamer/The Sandman. The Pitbulls utterly wreck Dreamer and Sandman in the opener, superbombing Dreamer. It's a hot opener that gets the crowd going.
  2. Pogo the Clown d. Roadkill. And we more garbage with Pogo fighting Roadkill, getting a win here and bringing the crowd down a bit.
  3. Kid Kaos d. Christian York (w/Joey Matthews) And the crowd's brought back by this match, a solid lucha match where Kid Kaos wins after York gets distracted by Mexico's Most Wanted jumping Matthews.
  4. Balls Mahoney d. Supreme. Balls gets a win here in a chairs brawl. Piledriver to Supreme on a chair.
  5. Lizzy Borden vs. Kristi Mist goes to a no-contest. Another stripping match, but this one ends when someone in a hooded leather jacket jumps the ring and wrecks them. After tossing around Kristi, the hooded figure hits a Pedigree on Lizzy, who no-sells it (crowd oohs at that) but gets a forearm for her troubles. The hooded figure takes off the jacket and reveals themselves to be... Chyna! (Or Joanie Lee as they call her for copyright reasons) and we give her the mic to shoot on McMahon and Bischoff shuffling her off to the Women's division, on all the catty bitches in the locker room, on Hunter for constantly whining about his spot while she was spinning her wheels. She takes her WWF Women's title and throws it in the trash. Then she pours lighter fluid into the trashcan and then strikes a match, lighting it up. She's come to XPW and she's gonna get what she never got in the WWF, the World Title.
  6. The Gangstas d. The Public Enemy, retaining the XPW Tag Titles. More wild, around the arena brawling with the Gangstas keeping their belts.
  7. The Messiah d. Terry Funk, retaining the XPW TV Title. The Funker wasn't a permanent hire for WCW, more likely on an open contract and so he does a match here to put over the Messiah. Fall From Grace through a table for Terry.
  8. Kaine (w/Minister) d. Sabu for the XPW World Title. Sabu is full-on homicidal, suicidal, genocidal and death-defying mania going against the monster Kaine and Kaine is just tossing him around and brutalizing Sabu with weapons. Kaine finishes it off with a Chokeslam through a flaming table. We have a new XPW World Champion. Kaine.
 
#30: X-Pac (w/Hall & Nash)

“Scrappy little kid. Ain't worth much to me, but I'm cool with his buddies.”

And same goes for X-Pac. Beatdown, Pedigree and he's out (5, X-Pac) but Hall and Nash stay outside. Curious...

And we got the Final Four. The Game, the Rock, the Undertaker, the Giant. Who will be the last man standing?

Undertaker and Paul Wight end up going out together. (4, Undertaker) (3, Paul Wight) and it's down to Triple H and the Rock. The two keep teasing eliminations until suddenly Hall and Nash slide into the ring and bundle them both out. (2, 1)

YES! Another no contest at the Royal Rumble! Hall and Nash just ruined another Rumble! Who is gonna face Hulk Hogan at WrestleMania?!

Oh no, not again!
 
Okay, I got the first one written out.

January 3rd, 2000


Curt Hennig wasn't used to a day off in some time. Back in his day, it was work a show then run over to the other side of the state for another one within a week. But now with WCW's paid time off policy, he had time to relax. And what better way to relax than watch his son, Joe uphold the family legacy. This was the semi final of the Minnesota middleweight NCAA amateur wrestling championships and his opponent, a black senior named Shelton Benjamin was no slouch managing to get him into a ankle lock. But what surprised him is when layed down and wrapped his legs to keep him down, assuring a tap out from Joe.

Curt was impressed. He'd seen the move used before but now he saw great talent in this man. He went to his son to console him and maybe meet this new kid.

"Hey you win some, you lose some and you managed to hang with a senior for a good 25 minutes." Curt said as he patted his son on the shoulder. "Thanks dad, but I need to get some ice on my ankle." Joe said with a smile back at his dad.

"Mr. Hennig?" "Yes." Curt said as he turned to see Shelton alongside a massive white man with a blonde buzz haircut. "My name is Shelton Benjamin and this is my roommate Brock Lesnar. We have something to discuss with you about your current employers."
 
Okay, I got the first one written out.
being honest we already discussed Lesnar would be 'college goldberg' or 'goldberg 2.0' but the thing is...Lesnar might not care wrestling that much, OTL lesnar was lucky UFC got a shot and he was decent. Still dunno what would be different OTL, unlike Cena, Bryan or Tyler black he didn't care that much wrestling
 
Say, how does WCW do attendance wise at the Georgia Dome, Astrodome, TWA Dome on Nitro since the company is staying afloat?
 
being honest we already discussed Lesnar would be 'college goldberg' or 'goldberg 2.0' but the thing is...Lesnar might not care wrestling that much, OTL lesnar was lucky UFC got a shot and he was decent. Still dunno what would be different OTL, unlike Cena, Bryan or Tyler black he didn't care that much wrestling

That's why I had Shelton in the convo with him. Shelton was the one that convinced him to go professional. For all we know, Brock might end up going into the Olympics ittl.

Say, how does WCW do attendance wise at the Georgia Dome, Astrodome, TWA Dome on Nitro since the company is staying afloat?

We haven't done a show in the Astrodome yet. As for the Georgia Dome, the first nitro of the year drew in 50,000 people, but that's still a step down from the Final TNT Nitro, which filled 65,000.

As for the TWA dome, well your just gonna have to find out when we get to Slamboree.
January 12, 2000

Ric Flair sat in his office, stuck in this conference call with three lucrative business partner. Yan Qiu, President of AKI's US branch, Brian Farrell, CEO of THQ, Tom Kalinske, President of Sega America. The four had been in this call to discuss to bring WCW Revenge over to Sega consoles. The problem was either to bring it only to the Saturn or bring it to the new console: The Dreamcast.

Sega's sixth gen console had been released in Japan January 21, 1999, and while it was tearing up the charts in Japan overtaking both the Nintendo 64 and the Playstation within a year, the real litmus test was coming in March: When the console would be released in North America, alongside a European release in June.

"So why shouldn't just do a quick port to the Dreamcast to be ready for launch?" Said Brian.

"Because the Dreamcast has backwards compatibility with Saturn games. If we do it for the Saturn and the Dreamcast, they'll be no real difference between either game. There needs to be more to convince people to buy it." Said Tom in response.

"How bout we add a couple new wrestlers for the Dreamcast version?" Said Brian.

"And who can we get to sign away their likeness for the game? In order to do this for the foreign wrestlers, we'd have to fly them to Japan to do the Mocap and record their lines for the games?" Said Yan with anger in his voice. No doubt he's thinking his company's got to foot the bill for this.

Ric just continued to listen. What can we do with this?
 
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That's why I had Shelton in the convo with him. Shelton was the one that convinced him to go professional. For all we know, Brock might end up going into the Olympics ittl.
Better for him going full olympian, high medal chance for 2004 and even 2008. Like José Alberto Rodríguez/Alberto del Rio loss his chance OTL because Mexico didn't care
 
being honest we already discussed Lesnar would be 'college goldberg' or 'goldberg 2.0' but the thing is...Lesnar might not care wrestling that much, OTL lesnar was lucky UFC got a shot and he was decent. Still dunno what would be different OTL, unlike Cena, Bryan or Tyler black he didn't care that much wrestling

Oh it's no state secret Brock doesn't care about wrestling. That's been evident for years. But what he does care about is what we've got: Dat Disney Money.
 
Oh it's no state secret Brock doesn't care about wrestling. That's been evident for years. But what he does care about is what we've got: Dat Disney Money.
Yeah but i still consider Lesnar a sunk cost in wrestling, better leave that hot potato to olympics or MMA, still if we ran him to the ground in WCW as goldberg 2.0 is still a good use of him
 
Yeah but i still consider Lesnar a sunk cost in wrestling, better leave that hot potato to olympics or MMA, still if we ran him to the ground in WCW as goldberg 2.0 is still a good use of him

The way I see things, we get 2-3 good years with Brock, he leaves, fails at football, fails in New Japan, does mediocre at UFC and then part-times in WWE.
 
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