Too Far From Home: A TL

Alright guys. The next update should be up tomorrow, but for now, I need to ask for some stuff from you guys:

First off, who do you want to see in a "where are they now" style update after part one (ending with the next update) is finished? I'm mostly going to be going through Wikipedia list of historical figures of the time :p but if there is anyone in particular you want to see, I would like to know.

Any specific areas of technology or social structure that you guys would want to here about? Or a country I haven't mentioned?

Also, please respond to this thread, because my naming ability is awful

https://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=372418

And, because it would be rude of me to show up without some content, heres another preview of something I am looking forward to writing ;)

Jackson, Andrew: Born to Irish immigrants in the mountainous region on the border between the two Carolina provinces in today's Columbia. He served as a courier during the First American Rebellion, and afterwords led settlers, illegally, passed the Appalachians and into the province of Appalachia, which he campaigned successful to gain province status separate from the First Indian Reserve. He personally traveled to London in order to convince Parliament not to abolish slavery. This was to no avail, and after Parliament did pass legislation ending the institution, Jackson personally led a siege on the government buildings in Williamsburg, and murder most of the pro-British government, leading to the start of the...
 
Chapter 13: Pacifica to 1830

The 1820s would be a time of great change in Pacifican politics. The election of 1819 saw the extremely charismatic James Monroe take the office of President. James Monroe is, even today, considered to be one of the best Presidents of Pacifca. Under Monroe, Pacifica experienced unprecedented economic growth, population booms, military reform, and settlement of the west.

Under the Monroe administration congress passed many bills that helped push Pacifican freedoms, particularly in business. Included in this is the destruction of the Pacifican Trade Company, established in 1803 and quickly becoming a monopoly close to the BEIC. Under Monroe, the Pacifican Trade Company was forced to sell her assets. The Federalists opposed this move, saying that the dissolution of this company would harm the economy. They would be proven wrong, however, as the Pacifican economy grew to levels never seen before (although it is still disputed if these two events are related).

By the time of the next election, the Jeffersonians were campaigning as “the people's party”, claiming to be protecting people's rights. In less than a decade, the political parties in Pacifica had completely reversed some of their policies. The Federalists now opted for a non-interference policy in business, while the Jeffersonians saw government interference as necessary, or at least a necessary evil.

Monroe would be re-elected with nearly no opposition in 1822. This would be the last presidential election the Federalists would have a candidate for, as they fell apart under the leadership of the aged Rufus King before the next election. Two new parties arose from its collapse. The Whigs, naming themselves after the party from the UK, consisted of the more liberal wing of the party. Meanwhile, the Freedom Party, while not exactly conservative, was highly libertarian, opposing any more government interference than what was necessary to keep the people safe. The Whigs received the majority of the party, with only about a fourth of the former Federalists joining the Freedom Party, most of those being the younger Federalists.

There was a small amount of Federalists who remained in the party, and while they had a few members in Congress after the 1825 election, they nominated Monroe on a joint ticket with the Jeffersonians, as they believed he stayed closer to true Federalist values than any of the new parties did. All the remaining Federalists would defect to the Jeffersonians by 1830.

Monroe's second and third terms would bring even more prosperity to the Pacificans than his first. In the spirit of true Jeffersonian frontiersmen, he passed the Settlement Act in 1824, offering large amounts of land formerly claimed by nobody. It should be noted, however, that this act only applied to land already admitted as states, so the amount of land offered was not as much as it could have been. Monroe also passed numerous legislation making it easier for (white) immigrants to come to Pacifica.

Monroe would be succeeded by John Quincy Adams, son of the American Rebellion hero John Adams. Despite the Jeffersonians running high, it seemed the party would begin to decline during the Adams administration. The Jeffersonians would actually lose members to the emerging parties formed from the collapse of the Federalists. With the 1830 election approached, the Jeffersonians felt confident they would win, but maybe wrongfully so...



The world, 1830
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Interlude: Pacifica in 1830

Federal Republic of Pacifica



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Population: 7,546,258

Major Cities: New Boston, Franklin, Richmond, Portsmouth, Bordeaux, Lake City

Culture: Mostly English, with elements of French, Dutch, Scottish, German, and Irish

Government: Presidential Federal Republic

President: John Quincy Adams

Vice President: Arnold Wilson

Political Parties:

Jeffersonians: Agrarianism, expansionism, centralism

Whigs: Liberalism, pro-business, industrialism

Freedom Party: Libertarianism, federalism, conservatism

Foreign Relations:

Allies: The Netherlands, Guatemala

Friendly: UPSA, United Kingdom

Improving: France

Sour: China, Maratha Confederacy, New Grenada
 
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I think you may want to fix the population number, unless there really are more than 765 million people living there in 1830. :p:p:p

Why the bad relations with China and the Marathas, what did they do to the Pacificans? Is it just racism?
 
I think you may want to fix the population number, unless there really are more than 765 million people living there in 1830. :p:p:p

Why the bad relations with China and the Marathas, what did they do to the Pacificans? Is it just racism?

Fixed.

Racism is a part of it. Its mostly, however, due to Pacifican exporting of republican ideas.
 
Alright guys, I have some news. I've decided to quit this timeline. Their are a few reasons for this. The main one is that, I simply feel I can do much better writing. I also would like to have time to work on my mapmaking ability. And lastly, it simply does not get enough feedback for me to consider it worthwhile anymore.

Now, in order to give a conclusion to this timeline, I will be doing a few world maps and sort of a tour at the world at these time periods:

1830 - Before the Second American Rebellion

1870 - Before the First Great War

1910 - Before the Second Great War

1950 - Before the Third Great War

2015 - Modern Day

I am sorry to end it like this but all those reasons have had considerable impact on my ability to continue writing this timeline.
 
The World in 1830

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Russian America is currently planning for a big push to the east as Russia turns her attention towards the east.

The Oregon Country has been explored mostly, and a few fur traders live their, but at the moment there is not really much tension between the powers who claim it. New Spain does not have de facto control over the northern part of the country, and going further north would just give them more land to settle when they need to settle the land they already have. British North America is the same way, only with a westward expansion.

British North America is seeing an upsurge of loyalty to the crown in the north, where a new generation that does not remember the American Rebellion has taken over. Unfortunately, in the south, where the issue of slavery is about to come over in a New Rebellion. Quebec is starting to become more and more Anglo, as the old French community starts to move to the colony of Louisiana, similarly to how the Acadians did a while ago. The Northwest is continuing to be settled, and the new Indian Reservation is beginning to sweat, worrying they might have to go even further west.

New Spain reticently became its own kingdom, and it now controls its own internal policies, while the Spanish government controls her foreign policy. There are still many deep divides inside the colony, and many worry that they will someday boil over. Currently letting Irish Catholics settle in the Tejas region...

The Republic of Guatemala has recently gained independence and is a republican stronghold in the Americas. It is one of Pacifica's closest allies, even though it is not entirely democratic.

The British managed to get the Guatemalans to get rid of their claims to Belize and the Mosquito Coast, but chances are they will sell both of the colonies eventually.

New Grenada came out of the French Civil War with independence as a Republic, but recently it has been growing into more of a Republican Dictatorship. Currently improving their ties with Russia.

Peru gained Kingdom status within the Spanish Empire, and has a similar system to New Spain. Currently rumors are going around that the Spanish Bourbons will marry into the Inca royal family.

Brazil has recently been taken over by absolutist radicals from Portugal after the signing of the Portuguese constitution. They claim to be the legitimate government of Portugal, and Lisbon still claims Brazil.

The United Provinces of Southern America started off as an unstable country, but has fortunately moved into being one of the most democratic states in the world. She has close ties to both Pacifica and Great Britain.

Great Britain has moved into a very liberal government, one that is increasingly pushing for the abolition of slavery within the empire. Currently the worlds greatest power, just don't ask the Russians.

France lost all of her colonies in her support for the American Rebellion and in her civil war, but has recently moved back onto the world stage with the acquisition of Algeria. Currently a rather liberal constitutional monarchy under the Bourbons, moving towards a Great Britain-like system, but the monarchy still holds quite a bit of power.

Western Europe has seen the rise of liberal-leaning constitutional monarchies, while the East has seen growing absolutism and conservatism. The main battlegrounds against these two ideologies are Italy, where a constitutional monarchy with a Hapsburg king has been made with an unholy union, and Germany, where the two camps try to gain allies. Hanover is still in a personal union with Great Britain.

Russia has become a world power that managed to defeat Sweden and the Ottomans and establish herself as Eastern Europe's leader. Very absolutist and dictatorial, and still practices serfdom. Currently looking to the east to expand her influence in Asia. Has formed the Holy Alliance with Austria and Prussia.

Africa has seen the colonial race really kick up, with Great Britain, the Netherlands, Denmark, Portugal, France, and even Pacifica trying to get a piece of the Action.

The Maratha Empire recently became a centralized state again, and the British have decided it would cost too much to defeat them once and for all. Allied with Russia.

The British have managed to dominate Southern and eastern India.

The Qing Dynasty of China is beginning a long period of decline while Republican ideals spill in from Pacifica.

The East Indies are a sight of increasing colonial tensions, with the Netherlands coming out on top, fighting Great Britain for influence.

Pacifica has established itself as the worlds most democratic and republican state, and is currently in a period of prosperity. Slowly continuing its long push westwards.

Hawaii is a de-facto protectorate of the British Empire.



 
Heres a preview of whats to come. Hopefully will be finished soon, but I've been rather busy with the end of the semester coming up.

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Alright, here we are, the world in 1870, shortly before the outbreak of the First Great War

Alaska was taken from Russia in the Turkish war of 1847, and has been shrunken for sake of quicker anglo-tiziation.

Settlement in Oregon has remained slower than this timeline due to Britain having more places to send colonists in North America, but it is coming along.

The Dominion of Avalonia, the first British Dominion, managed to gain self governance in 1846 due to how much the northern colonies helped during the Second American Rebellion. Their capital is in Detroit. Foreign policy still dictated by London, but internal affairs are at this point completely Avalonia's own job.

The Dominions of Virginia, Carolina, and Florida remained colonies for longer due to the fact that they were the ones rebelling, but were all made dominions in 1968. All three are rather conservative. Virginia is in the process of sending all her blacks up north to Avalonia or to Sierra Leone in Africa. Carolina and Florida prefer just to oppress them.

The Dominion of Louisiana received most of Quebec's french-speaking population and almost no anglo settlers; Parliament was worried, but in the end gave them dominion status along with the rest in 1868.

New Eire didn't particularly wanted independence, but British ties to Pacifica meant it was part of the peace settlement after the Spanish-Pacifican War. Still pretty much a dumping ground for Celtic Catholics, but mostly a willing one. Gaelic culture and language currently in revival.

New Spain still pretty much listens to Madrid on most things, the only difference is thats its smaller now.

Guatemala was the true winner of the Spanish-Pacifican War, and thanks to this, purchases from Great Britain, and splitting of some bigger provinces, now has a total of 13 provinces and one Capital District. Still pretty corrupt.

Gran Columbia has become Russia's little buddy in the Americas and a brutal Republican Dictatorship.

Haiti - and you're government of the week is...

Officially a protectorate of Great Britain, most of the protecting of Santo Domingo is done by Avalonia.

Spain last directly controlled colony in the Americas is Puerto Rico; some talks of integration with New Spain.

Peru: Like New Spain, only hasn't lost any territory.

The UPSA is actually a rather pleasant, although flawed, democracy. Probably a world power now, but no European will admit it. Close to Britain and Pacifica, but no official alliance has been signed with either of them.

Brazil finally gave up on the Portuguese thrown. Really fucked up people. Slavery is not only still around but expanding.

Ireland really doesn't have very many Catholics anymore.

Great Britain is the worlds greatest power, just don't ask the Russians. Conservatives struggling to hold on as many liberal parties work together.

The Netherlands is going to become a full blown Republic right...about...

France has moved towards a system like Britain where the monarchy no longer holds any real power, although it is considerably more conservative.

The Spanish Monarchy still has some power, although not as much as...

Portugal, who would probably fit in better with the Holy Alliance. The government is the same it was when the constitution was first signed, and shoes no sign of changing. Nonetheless, the old Anglo-Portuguese alliance is still intact.

The Sardinians are pretty scared of the Hapsburg Kingdom of Italy...

although at least they weren't pushed off the mainland like the Two Sicilys were.

Germany got tired of being a battleground for conservatives and liberals, and exploded into a rebellion in the 60s. Now she is a Republic, and one much more federalized than Pacifica. Doing great for a state thats only been in existence for less than a decade.

Italy, on the other hand, is still a battleground of ideologies. The Hapsburg King wants closer ties to Austria-Slavonia, while the people think that they should get the Italian-speaking portions of it before an alliance it signed.

The Papal States knows it will be swallowed up by Italy eventually...preparing for a move to Avignon.

The U.K. of Scandinavia lost the title of most liberal nation in Europe to Germany. Formed itself a nice little colonial empire out of the old Danish one.

Finland is still under the Russian boot, most Finns aren't very happy about this.

Russia stands firm and true as the leader of her own absolutist block. Still an absolute monarchy along with Prussia and Austria, and yes, serfdom is still a thing.

In order to make Russia happy, decided to make separate kingdom of of Slavonia. Its a good step, but other minorities are still oppressed. Also, its a bit geopolitically awkward that Austria splits Slavonia in two.

Prussia has also learned to enfranchise Slavs, provided they learn to speak German and give up their old culture. Annexed Saxony and Macklenburg as special principalities with no real autonomy to prevent Republican takeover.

Romania will pretty much do anything the Tsar says.

The Ottomans were beat up by the Russians in the Turkish War of 1847 and still hate them for it, but the western Europeans are too liberal for them, so for now, their foreign policy is to hate everyone.

Greece is closely allied to France and not really doing so hot. Has lots of land from the Ottomans on her wish list.

The Suez Canal is jointly owned by Britain, France, and the Ottomans, and the rest of the red sea is an equal contest for trade.

Oman had a bad 19th century. The Arabian puppets of Britain are known collective as Princely states.

Africa, unfortunately, sees less divide and rule policies ITTL, meaning the situation is generally worse.

The big daddies of Africa are Britain and France, followed by Spain, Portugal, and the Dutch, although Prussia, Germany, Sardinia, Scandinavia, and even Greece.

French Central Africa looks impressive on a map, but most of it is just de jure control.

Ethiopia is modernizing, but at a slower pace than the Marathas. Pretty dependent on Russia, even giving them a small African territory.

Iran and the rest of the central Asian states are just happy Russia has turned her attention back to Europe for now.

The Marathas are TTLs Japan. Really want that Bengal Sea coastline back.

The BEIC wont be collapsing any time soon, probably because they have a smaller area to control.

China just got out of a brutal civil war that last most of the 60s. The Republic of China is close to Pacifica, joining them in the Pacific Alliance. The Qing are now allied to Russia because they have to be.

Japan is still pretty isolated, although the Pacificans forced them to open up trade in the early 40s.

Korea broke away from Qing rule during the civil war and is now a republic. A member of the Pacific Alliance.

After the Spanish-Pacifican War, Spain took her navy from the Philippines and took most of northern Indochina. Pacifica still pretty pissed.

The Philippines are what caused the Spanish-Pacifican War back in the 60s when she began calling for an independent republic, and are now pretty much a puppet of Pacifica. Pacific Alliance Member.

Even Europe can't deny Pacifica her place as world power. Currently colonizing various areas of the Pacific, but moving into a more isolationist phase.


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Yeah, there will be more. I've been a bit busy lately but I still plan on doing some for around 1950 and then the present day. Along with an internal map of Pacific
 
Don't mean to Necromance, but are you going to revive this. I've really enjoyed it. I also am planing a map with a similar POD
 
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