Tonight, In This Very Ring: A Collection of Wrestling Timelines

Discussion in 'Alternate History Discussion: After 1900' started by Megafighter3, May 20, 2019.

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  1. eldandythedoubter Well-Known Member

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    Well then, its up to you to let the butterfly flap on this one. Also, just as a suggestion, What if WWE did decide to sign Reid Flair?
     
  2. AestheticAcid Purveyor of silly things of little consequence

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    Ex-TNA stars are mostly getting jobbed out hard here, which is disappointing but also very accurate for Vince
     
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  3. Megafighter3 Well-Known Member

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    Apart from maybe Sabin and Abyss, I'd hardly call the ex-TNA guys getting jobbed out just because they got eliminated. AJ helped eliminate Jericho and was eliminated via shenanigans, Joe eliminated three people himself and needed both Cena and Ryback to do him in (plus he's been on a winning streak and is Mr. Money in the Bank. Hell, even Abyss is questionable as he eliminated Brodus and Bo before going out. Also, Angle's not an ex-TNA guy, he's a WWE Legend, but if you wanna argue that, he's also got a high elimination count and got eliminated by Lesnar.

    If you look at the glass half-empty, sure.
     
  4. Threadmarks: The Reign of Punk: Elimination Chamber 2013

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    Elimination Chamber 2012

    Venue: New Orleans Arena
    Attendance: 15.750
    Announce Team: Michael Cole/Tazz​

    AJ Lee (c) d. Tamina Snuka for the WWE Women's Championship

    The Black Widow retains once again, fighting against the power game of Tamina and getting her to tap to start things off.

    Ryback d. Brodus Clay

    Ryback continues his winning streak, overpowering Brodus and hitting the Shellshocked. We feed and feed but he stays hungry.

    Dean Ambrose (c) d. Jeff Hardy for the WWE United States Championship

    And the Hardyz get some singles title shots here, Jeff going up against the Lunatic Fringe in a wild brawl with plenty of bumpage. Dirty Deeds wins it for Dean here, keeping one belt in the Shield.

    Jack Swagger (w/Zeb Colter) d. Alberto del Rio (w/Ricardo Rodriguez)

    We, the people! Yep, it's time for Real American Jack Swagger to make his return, making an enemy of del Rio and turning del Rio face (still as risky a move as ever) but we start with a win from Swagger after a Gutwrench Powerbomb.

    The Shield (Antonio Cesaro/Kassius Ohno) (c) d. Kofi Kingston/Big E Langston (w/Mark Henry) for the WWE Tag Team Championship

    Henry returns as a manager for the young powerlifter Langston, a green fella who teams up with the ever affable Kofi Kingston to try and take the tag titles, but they also fall to Shield. Not helped when Ryback attacks Henry (he's not joining the Shield, don't worry. This is just what Ryback wants) and after a Doomsday Elbow to Kingston, the Shield keep the tag titles.

    Seth Rollins (c) d. Matt Hardy for the WWE Intercontinental Title

    Now we have Matt's turn for singles gold, Matt and Seth putting on a good match, ending with a mock Twist of Fate to lead into the Phoenix Splash. IC title secured as well. Sierra. Hotel. india. Echo. Lima. Delta.

    SHIELD

    CM Punk (c) d. AJ Styles, Chris Jericho, Daniel Bryan, Randy Orton and Sheamus for the WWE World Championship in an Elimination Chamber Match

    Punk and D-Bry start things off with some of that good wrestling y'all love, followed by Jericho. This triple threat action soon splits off when Sheamus enters, taking D-Bry away while Punk and Jericho face off. Next comes Orton, who joins D-Bry in fighting Sheamus and finally out steps AJ Styles, who beelines for Jericho. Punk then goes back for Bryan and the fights become Punk/D-Bry, Styles/Jericho and Orton/Sheamus.

    Surprisingly, the Celtic Warrior gets the first elimination, taking Orton out with the Brogue Kick. Bryan pulls away from Punk to go at him while Jericho manages to take out AJ, eliminating him. However, AJ decides to make things even fro the Rumble and hits the Phenomenal Forearm on the way out, leaving to tap to the Anaconda Vice.

    Bryan soon gets Sheamus in the LeBell Lock, Punk pulling Sheamus back whenever he goes for the ropes and soon Sheamus taps out. It started with Punk vs. Bryan and it ends with Punk vs. Bryan. The two tear down the house for the remaining time, ending with a GTS from Punk to retain. John Cena, who was sitting in the front row, enters the ring to do nose-to-nose with Punk, both men looking at the WrestleMania sign. They both know in their heart that this is where it ends. That once and for all, they will know who is the better man.

    WrestleMania 29.
     
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  5. Threadmarks: The Reign of Punk: WrestleMania 29

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    WrestleMania 29

    Venue: MetLife Stadium in East Rutherford, New Jersey
    Attendance: 82,500 (Capacity)
    Announce Team: Jim Ross/JBL/Matt Striker​

    Pre-Show Match: The Usos (Jimmy/Jey/Joey) d. The Gentlemen's Club (Cody Rhodes/Damien Sandow/Fandango) in a Six-Man Tag Team Match

    And we evolve Team Rhodes Scholars with the addition of the ballroom dancer Fandango into a trio of men with massive egos. Cody Rhodes with his dashing good looks and a sweet mustache, Damien Sandow the well-read intellectual and Fandango with his graceful movements and seductive energy. Yeah, they lose out to the Usos to get the crowd going. Spear to Fandango gets Big Joey the win.

    Ryback d. Mark Henry (w/Big E Langston)

    Ryback attacked Mark Henry because he wants to meet Mark Henry in a match to prove his dominance. He even (kayfabe) injures Henry's protegee to force him out of retirement for this confrontation. It's a short match but the outcome is Ryback beating Henry with the Shellshocked. Can no one ever defeat this beast?

    Alberto del Rio (w/Ricardo Rodriguez) d. Jack Swagger (w/Zeb Colter)

    It's the OTL match, but without a title behind it. Del Rio, now the proud Mexican babyface, vanquishes the Real American heel Swagger with the Cross Armbreaker.

    The Shield (c) (Dean Ambrose/Antonio Cesaro/Kassius Ohno) d. The Empire (Sheamus/Wade Barrett/Drew McIntyre) for the WWE Tag Team Championship in a Six-Man Tag Team Match

    And we have a big Shield six-man match. Just an all-out chaotic match as the Shield look to displace the Empire as the top stable in the WWE. Dirty Deeds to McIntyre finishes the match.

    AJ Styles d. Chris Jericho

    And here we give AJ his WrestleMania Moment as he defeats Y2J in a five-star match. Just let them have fifteen minutes, shave off from some other matches if you gotta. Styles Clash wins it for the Phenomenal One.

    The Undertaker d. Sting

    Another huge match for this card, the two Icons of WWE and WCW finally meet. Sting wanted this match since the TNA buyout. He's never wrestled for the WWE and he's only going to do the one match, so he wants to make this the one match. For Undertaker, who has always been a slayer of dragons for Vince, has waited to face the dragon that evaded him for twelve years. It's a huge match in terms of hype, though it's not a high-quality match. This can go a little short since we're probably not gonna get a five-star classic of them. But it all ends here with a Tombstone to the Stinger. And with this, WCW can finally rest. In. Peace.

    Seth Rollins (c) d. Daniel Bryan for the WWE Intercontinental Championship

    It's Seth Rollins vs. Daniel Bryan. Do... do you need anything more than that? Two of the finest wrestlers to lace up their boots, former ROH World Champions fighting for the second biggest prize in all of wrestling. It's a goddamn Match of the Year candidate ending with a Phoenix Splash. The Shield continue to rule the roost.

    Brock Lesnar (w/Paul Heyman) d. Kurt Angle

    And the hits just keep coming! Brock looks to finally put away Kurt Angle, rekindling a longstanding feud in as both men take a tour of Suplex City here. Just putting on a mat classic (or as much as they can) before Lesnar shuts down the wrestling machine for good with the Kimura (JBL sneaks in a reference to the idea that Kurt can't handle a move like the Kimura Lock because that's a cute reference) and Angle is stretchered out to the distress off the fans.

    John Cena d. CM Punk (c) for the WWE World Championship

    Give them 25 minutes and let them go at it. Cena vs. Punk has always produced great matches and this is no exception. And consider just how big this match is ITTL. Punk has held the title for 636 days and Cena has never beaten him once in that time. Sure, he won last year against the Rock, but he also got put on the shelf for months going against Brock, couldn't beat Samoa Joe, got powerbombed through the announce table by the Shield and lost to Angle on his return while Punk's star has only risen with several main events under his belt and now finally getting to main event WrestleMania. So, I think we can allow the story to end with Punk taking the Attitude Adjustment. Cena wins, becoming a 10-time WWE World Champion and he and Punk shake hands to end the night in front of a raucous New Jersey crowd.

    And so ends the Reign of Punk. That's one timeline down and so many more timelines to go...
     
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  6. farmerted555 Well-Known Member

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    If you don't mind me asking, what's the next timeline?
     
  7. Megafighter3 Well-Known Member

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    That will be "The Beast Remains" looking at a year of the WWE if Brock Lesnar didn't fuck off to be terrible at football in 2004.
     
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  8. eldandythedoubter Well-Known Member

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    There was this real nice documentary on Brock's time in New Japan that would be good food for thought, but I can't find it anymore.
     
  9. farmerted555 Well-Known Member

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    New Japan claimed copyright on it.
     
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  10. Threadmarks: The Beast Remains

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    The Beast Remains

    Suggested by @Hulkster'01, we have the question of what if Brock Lesnar stayed with WWE beyond WrestleMania XX. Certainly an idea worth exploring as Brock was a major star within a short amount of time, winning the WWE Championship three times, the 2003 Royal Rumble and the 2002 King of the Ring in short order. However, within two years, Brock wanted out of the constant travel and had hopes of a football career in its place. However, what if Vince made the concessions necessary for Brock to stay? What if Brock had turned around on the business and was more willing to stay? Either way you wanna see it, the Beast remains.

    WrestleMania XX

    Brock Lesnar vs. Goldberg, a match of two men of raw destructive power looking to prove who is the better. However, the crowd is very much behind Lesnar as Goldberg is known to be leaving. Every suplex Lesnar thrown is met with explosive cheers and any advantage Goldberg gets is met with a chorus of boos. After one final F5, referee Steve Austin counts to three and Lesnar wins the match, walking off.

    March 22, 2004

    On WWE's website, the post-draft trades for the 2004 WWE draft are posted.

    • To SmackDown: Booker T, the Dudley Boyz, Rico, A-and Miss Jackie
    • To RAW: A-Train, Chuck Palumbo and Brock Lesnar
     
  11. eldandythedoubter Well-Known Member

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    Should I go get the triple h burial shovel gif?
     
  12. Megafighter3 Well-Known Member

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    It's Hunter's worst nightmare. He has to work Tuesdays.
     
  13. Dannyboy Well-Known Member

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    Intresting to see if Lesnar overcomes his addiction to alcohol and painkillers he was suffering from the time, or he slips even further into it.
     
  14. eldandythedoubter Well-Known Member

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    Oh yeah, the plane ride from hell incident.
     
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    I think the Plane Ride From Hell incident occurred in 2002, not 2004...

    With regards to that, it would have been impossible for the emergency exit door to open during the fight between Brock Lesnar and Curt Henning, for reasons explained here: https://www.travelandleisure.com/airlines-airports/open-plane-door.

    Basically, the difference in pressure between the plane and forces outside would make it impossible for the door to open, unless the plane were depressurized; OTOH, it would have been possible to knock the handle off the door or cause some other safety alert. In some circumstances, this would cause cabin depressurization, a hissing sound coming from the door (from cold air coming into the cabin), and also cause oxygen masks to drop from the ceiling (which would probably freak out the wrestlers on the plane).

    And, if that had happened, Lesnar and Henning both get fired (hell, they'd both be lucky not to go to prison, since tampering with the plane is a federal offense punishable by either steep finds or jail time), IMO...
     
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  16. eldandythedoubter Well-Known Member

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    Well I brought it up because apparently both of them were high as fuck when that incident happened. Rational minds would have cracked down on the drug issues then and there.
     
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    I agree, @eldandythedoubter; they were also all drunk, too (Ric Flair was exposing himself to the stewardesses and stripped down to his robe)...
     
  18. Threadmarks: The Beast Remains: Backlash 2004

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    Backlash 2004

    Venue: Rexall Place in Edmonton, Alberta, Canada.
    Attendance: 13,000
    Announce Team: Jim Ross/Jerry Lawler​

    Okay, so for this one I'm not gonna do the play-by-play on this one because for the most part, the card is pretty good, just need to do three changes.

    Brock Lesnar d. Ric Flair

    In place of Shelton, Brock goes to tear apart the rest of Evolution on the way to getting the World Heavyweight title and he starts with the Nature Boy. It's a slaughter, a bloodletting (because it's Ric Flair, are you gonna tell him to not bleed?) and a stretcher job. One down.

    Shelton Benjamin d. Tajiri

    Because why would you have Coachman beat Tajiri? Give Shelton a deserved victory.

    Chris Benoit (c) d. Shawn Michaels for the World Heavyweight Championship

    And turn this from a triple threat to a singles match. Cut ten minutes from this give to Flair/Lesnar but the result remains the same. Benoit wins with the Sharpshooter.
     
  19. Threadmarks: The Beast Remains: Judgment Day 2004

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    Judgment Day 2004

    Venue: Staples Center in Los Angeles, California
    Attendance: 18,722
    Announce Team: Michael Cole/Tazz​

    Sorry if the more focused versions of the cards aren't as fun, but I'm mainly working through two things: 1. I wasn't watching wrestling at the time and wasn't as familiar and 2. I mostly find these matches to be fine and not needing a lot of reworking, so I'm mainly focusing on the main changes and any ripples that result from said changes. With the Reign of Punk, I was able to cover a lot more ground and was way more familiar since there were other things I could hone in on (Zack Ryder's US Title Run, the Shield, Brock Lesnar's return, preventing 18 Seconds, the Divas of Doom, etc.) but early Ruthless Aggression was a functional period of wrestling so I'm less inclined to tinker if it doesn't ripple down the way it did in the Reign of Punk. Maybe as we go on, the dominos will fall, but for now, let's see how Hunter is adjusting to his new home on Smackdown.

    John Bradshaw Layfield d. John Cena (c) for the WWE United States Championship

    So, instead of chasing the WWE title, Bradshaw wants to deal with that little punk John Cena, who is disgracing America by holding the US title. We swap the belt over to JBL to get him started on his solo run.

    Triple H d. Eddie Guerrero (c) by disqualification for the WWE Championship

    So, Hunter wants the belt, but he also decided to make friends with Eddie by giving Chavo a Pedigree after he had won back the Cruiserweight title, which riles Eddie up. Eddie gets DQed for striking Hunter with the title and goes off on Hunter with the chair.

    Also, there was this dude they had on this show, Mordecai. Got a cool religious whackjob gimmick... wonder if we can use him for something...
     
  20. Threadmarks: The Beast Remains: Bad Blood 2004

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    Bad Blood 2004

    Venue: Nationwide Arena in Columbus, Ohio
    Attendance: 9,000
    Announce Team: Jim Ross/Jerry Lawler​

    Okay, let's see if we can do something with a little more meat on the bone. This looks like a decent card and I got a few ways to fiddle with it.

    Heat: Tyson Tomko d. Maven

    For some reason, Batista was the one doing this but screw it, let's have it be Tomko. I got a spot for Batista.

    Edge/Chris Jericho d. La Resistance (Robert Conway/Sylvain Grenier) for the World Tag Team Championship

    No DQ finish here. Just a Spear to Grenier after Conway decides he's done with him (because putting him in La Resistance was the dumbest thing) Edge and Jericho become tag champs (Edge's 10th run as World Tag Champ and Jericho's 4th) Just let the Canadians run the show, really.

    Shelton Benjamin d. Randy Orton (c) for the WWE Intercontinental Championship

    And after beating Tajiri, Shelton gets a shot and it's thanks to interference from Lesnar that Shelton wins the strap. Just another way in which Brock looks to screw over Evolution. Don't worry, he hasn't forgotten Batista.

    Trish Stratus d. Victoria (c), Gail Kim, and Lita for the WWE Women's Championship

    Same match from OTL, though it might benefit from an extra ten minutes. Don't worry, I know where they get it from.

    Eugene d. Jonathan Coachman

    This does not need to be seven minutes. Cut it to below five. I don't care if he's doing the mentally handicapped gimmick (yes, I know he's supposed to be a Rain Man style savant, but the unsubtle nature of wrestling just makes his gimmick that he's mentally handicapped) seven minutes of the Coach wrestling is ten minutes too many.

    Chris Benoit (c) d. Kane for the World Heavyweight Championship

    Keep this match as well and give it an extra five minutes. Again, I know where these times are coming from (though not having Jericho/Tomko and cutting down Eugene/Coach has helped) just to get it over twenty from Benoit.

    Brock Lesnar d. Batista in a Hell in a Cell Match

    We lock these two behemoths in a cage to keep out Orton, who still tries to interfere but Shelton holds him off to the return the favor to Brock. Benjamin eats an RKO for his troubles while Lesnar finishes off the Animal with an F5. The match goes about twenty-five minutes, so we can use the rest for post-match. Brock yells at the ref to open the cage and let Orton in. The ref refuses so Brock shoves him aside and forces open the cage door himself, catching Orton with a suplex as the Viper charges in. Orton comes back and the two brawl inside the Cell as Bad Blood comes to a close.
     
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