That doesn't guarantees a white victory, they can still fuck up, but with Ukraine,Belarus and the caucasian States out of the picture who knows how's going to end.Germany likely provides some support to the Russian Whites as well.
That doesn't guarantees a white victory, they can still fuck up, but with Ukraine,Belarus and the caucasian States out of the picture who knows how's going to end.Germany likely provides some support to the Russian Whites as well.
Though Austria ripping Venetia off of Italy would be a cool twist, I can’t think of another TL where I’ve seen it doneLol I appreciate that but the real one will be this big.
That thing aint nuthin.
*dont read into the Venice thing, that was just me doodling - this is like 10% done
Yes, later.
After all the peace treaties
If Italy descends into Civil War, Venice might try declaring independence. Then becoming an A-H client state in exchange for protection might seem the lesser evil compared to re-annexation by some Fascist/Communist Regime.Though Austria ripping Venetia off of Italy would be a cool twist, I can’t think of another TL where I’ve seen it done
Mmm that’s a thought. What was Venice’s position under Austria pre-1866? A viceroyalty no? Can’t say I’m super familiar with Italian history 1815-59If Italy descends into Civil War, Venice might try declaring independence. Then becoming an A-H client state in exchange for protection might seem the lesser evil compared to re-annexation by some Fascist/Communist Regime.
It was one of two parts of the Kingdom of Lombardy-Venetia. They were less anti-Austrian than Lombardy during 1848, IIRC, but not by much.Mmm that’s a thought. What was Venice’s position under Austria pre-1866? A viceroyalty no? Can’t say I’m super familiar with Italian history 1815-59
I had never thought of this before but it is definitely true…... Treaty of Vienna (1864), Peace of Prague (1866), Treaty of Frankfurt (1871), Treaty of Brest-Litovsk (1918) and Treaty of Bucharest (1918). I am immensely enjoying TT and learning new details like this.Analysis
Signed on November 29th 1918, the Treaty would enter effect by January 1st 1919 - officially ending the conflict between the Central Powers and France, Belgium and Luxembourg. The treaty would follow the German tradition of naming treaties in the identity as the signing city, as opposed to the palace, and thus would be known as the Treaty of Brussels, rather Laeken.
Not back in 1918There's still a strong movement for Venetian independence today, so Venice proclaiming a new Most Serene Republic wouldn't be that farfetched under these circumstances. Now would they get to stay independent is the million dollar questions...
I actually recall reading that secessionist sympathies gained credence during the turmoil and economic downturn of the postwar period.Not back in 1918
That said I don't think it's super likely.Right after World War I, the economic and political situation in Veneto was critical, so that a former Prime Minister and native of Venice, Luigi Luzzatti, wrote to Prime Minister Vittorio Emanuele Orlando and told him there could be a "Venetian Ireland", in parallel to the simultaneous Irish War of Independence, while the prefect of Treviso signalled the risk that a separatist movement aimed at separating Veneto from Italy might flourish in the province of Treviso.
Maybe, but there are the Bolsheviks to the east and the soon to be created USSR. A successful Germany after WWI could position itself as the 'Shield of Europe' against the dragon of Communism. This could play out even faster once the Italian Communists really get going with the whole 'revolution' thing and it will likely spread into Austria-Hungary, forcing a German military intervention.Alright so, I'm a little late to the party but I must say I love how you handled the navy side of things. Very plausible stuff and also well written, as is the whole story.
Now, reading the chapters on the peace conference, I sense British shipyards are not going to fall into the shadow of themselves that they historically were in the mid-1930s.
I am also starting to think France and Italy might have common interests in the future and increased cooperation between the two wouldn't suprise me at all. Both have grievances against Germany (and to a lesser extent, the UK), both now have to share the continent with an almost-hegemonic German state and both have ressources that may be helpful to each other. I might be completely off track here, but I think the seed of the future European opposition to Berlin is an eventual Paris-Rome axis.
Maybe AH can survive but I have a feeling they are going to struggleIts one of the best and Most realistic timelines.
Will we see a surviving AH?
It ist for Germany from Interesse that they survivie?Maybe AH can survive but I have a feeling they are going to struggle
There's the question of how it affects German inner politics. An influx of milions of Catholics and such industrial areas would benefit Zentrum and SPD respectively, so the Prussian elites might oppose this hypothetical Anschluss.It ist for Germany from Interesse that they survivie?
AH gone: Germany can annexd Austria and Böhmen and there IS no other greater Power in Estern Europa. And they have Not the Problems from AH and can Profis from there benifits in Education and Organisation.
AH survivie: Maybe an Strong alley and a easier comunication when you habe one big state and Not 10 diffrents which you all hate.