TNO Collabrative TL

[Kingfish Chris]

October 3, 1962: Continuing on with the Second Verona Conference, more discussion and argument would ensue. Along with the Discussion, many participating Fascist officials would be split into separate factions as of the Conference.

• Moderate Fascists - Ardent Fascists who seek to appeal to all Factions of the Fascist Party.
• Young Fascists - The Fascists represent a Left-leaning Faction of Scorza's Hardliners who seek radical change of Fascist Ideology, seeking to emulate the progressive policies of the Fascist Manifesto published in 1919 that was abandoned when Mussolini came to power. Although despite affiliation with Scorza, many Young Fascists are sympathetic and very friendly to Balbo's Moderate Fascists due to similar views regarding change and reform.
• True Fascists - They are a Right-leaning Faction within Scorza's Hardliners seeking to establish the True Fascism that Mussolini wished for, but was never achieved due to the Monarchy preventing Mussolini's dreams from being realized. Unlike the Young Fascists who follow the progressive Fascist Manifesto, the True Fascists are followers of the Doctrine of Fascism.
• Status Quo - They are content with what's going on in Italy. Often consisting of those Fascists with Monarchist sympathies/views or Monarchists of Fascist-sympathies seeking to maintain the Kingdom.
• Reformists - They represent Ciano's camp seeking democratization and liberalization.

Spoiler: The Topic regarding Gender

Topic: Marching in lockstep with the reformers, Italy's leaders can redefine what fascism means to gender! All in Italy are Italians; so long as you love your country, you shall not face oppression! Equality of the sexes will only bring prosperity to Italy - let this message spread to all across the country! Perhaps women could even be fit for serving in the armed forces in a dedicated branch, the Servizio Ausiliario Femminile.

Then again, it was men who made Italy what it is today. Who will handle the home while the men are off at work? Fascism and tradition go hand and hand, and tradition hasn’t hurt us before, and it certainly won't hurt us in the future.

The Fascist Party would be divided for the topic of the day being the issues of gender:

• The Moderate Fascists - They seek to compromise both male and female.
• The Young Fascists - They seek to empower women establishing a New Fascist woman, thus enforcing the Gender Equality within Fascist Ideology and the Fascist State.
• The True Fascists - Many Hardliners within the Fascist Party seek to bring back Mussolini's idea of traditional gender roles of women being child-bearers and subservient while the men work and fight. Thus they seek to maintain the Model of Masculinity for Fascism.
• The Status Quo - They honestly don't really have a real opinion on gender, although they are split between equality and tradition.
• Reformists - They share some views with the Moderates and the Young Fascists.

 

[akoslows]

October 7th, 1962: In front of a crowd of enthusiastic supporters and loyal soldiers, Marshal Georgy Zhukov gave a speech in Ukhta. In this speech, he declared that the WRRF must not allow itself to stagnate and crumble, as they were the last remnants of the old USSR, and that they must not allow "childish revenge fantasies" to blind them to their goal of restoring the Soviet Union. Though Tukhachevsky wasn't mentioned in the speech, the meaning behind the Marshal's words were clear, and this has caused tensions to heighten in Arkhangelsk as Voroshilov's health worsens.

 

[AeroTheZealousOne]

October 26, 1962: The health of Comrade Voroshilov takes a turn for the worse, coming down with a virulent strain of the flu. His doctors do not expect him to last more than a week.

October 30, 1962: Kliment Voroshilov, leader of the West Russian Revolutionary Front, is dead. Mourning breaks out across the region for the man who took a second stand against the fascist hordes for freedom and for Mother Russia. Following the funeral, a power struggle that will last for many long months begins to take shape in the WRRF...

November 5, 1962: After being strangely inactive from the perspective of local authorities, underground partisan organizations across Serbia begin executing the first phases of an uprising against the collaborationist puppet regime. The first shots fired in Belgrade are the echo of a woman shouting the defiant last words of a partisan who died nearly twenty years hence:

"Smrt fašizmu, sloboda narodu!" *



* Death to fascism, freedom to the people!

(OOC: Serbia content is partially based on the canon concept that they rise up at some point or another under relatively sane anti-fascist partisans. As of 21 September 2019 there isn't much lore on them, so I'm just kind of winging it.)

 

[Whiteshore]

October 30, 1962: Kliment Voroshilov, leader of the West Russian Revolutionary Front, is dead. Mourning breaks out across the region for the man who took a second stand against the fascist hordes for freedom and for Mother Russia. Following the funeral, a power struggle that will last for many long months begins to take shape in the WRRF...

November 2, 1962: Mikhail Tukhachevsky denounces Zhukov's call for "Soviet Democracy" in a speech in Kotlas, arguing that the current situation requires the military to be the vanguard of the revolution in said soeech.

 

[Tales Weaver]

September 27, 1962: Mass demonstrations by "anti-fascist" demonstrators politically aligned with the Left-NPP and Center-NPP with many Left-NPP and Center-NPP leaders speaking at said protests against President Nixon's foreign policy with its close ties with Fascist Italy turn violent when Italian-Americans, Right-NPP, and NPP-Fasci counter-demonstrations and said anti-fascist demonstrators clash with the police having to break the clashes.

December 25, 1962: NPP formally balkanizes between American Liberal party, comprised of Left and Center NPP and American National Party, comprised of Right-NPP and NPp-Fasci.

 

[Thanosaekk]

Early October 1962: Stahlecker continues to score victories across Ostland, as Meyer-Landruts liberals are on the verge of collapse. Soon, though, they will come into conflict with Kovner's UPO.

November 1962: The Goering supporters in Bialystok and Westpreussen face a new offensive by Heydrich's forces. However, the SS are soon ground down at the cost of thousands of casualties for the militarists.

 

[Kingfish Chris]

October 4, 1963: In Argentina, The Peronist Justicalist Party under Juan Peron is racked with factional infighting where violence breaks out between the Left-Wing Peronists and the Right-Wing Peronists.

The OFN keeps its eyes peeled with the situation in Argentina. The OFN intends to bring Argentina in its folds, as well Peron has displayed interest in joining in the near future, although people within Peron's cabinet especially Right-Wing Factions have displayed Pro-Germany sympathies. Although Pro-German sympathies are out of the question considering how Germany has collapsed and is unstable currently in the state of Civil War.

 

[Whiteshore]

October 4, 1963: In Argentina, The Peronist Justicalist Party under Juan Peron is racked with factional infighting where violence breaks out between the Left-Wing Peronists and the Right-Wing Peronists.

The OFN keeps its eyes peeled with the situation in Argentina. The OFN intends to bring Argentina in its folds, as well Peron has displayed interest in joining in the near future, although people within Peron's cabinet especially Right-Wing Factions have displayed Pro-Germany sympathies. Although Pro-German sympathies are out of the question considering how Germany has collapsed and is unstable currently in the state of Civil War.

Meanwhile, many people in the American government, seeing Peron's government as too pro-German, are considering backing either a right-wing military coup or the Radical Civic Union in the next elections with Republicans and Liberals calling for supporting the RCU and the Democrats and Nationalists calling for supporting a military coup.

 

[Kingfish Chris]

October 5, 1963: The topic on Gender regarding the Second Verona Conference ends in the Moderate Fascists favour, thus the status of women grows. The result leads to much displeasure of some Young Fascists who seek total Women's empowerment and some True Fascists who are unhappy with improving women's status.

The next topic would follow the question regarding what age group should be valued - Youth or Elderly.

Spoiler: The Next Topic of the Conference

The Topic: Giovinezza! Italy is still young! The youth have lived in a world where Italy has always been great - and the fascist revolution was done by the Italian youths against the old and crusty liberal partitocracy. If they have any gripes, they must speak them: Italy is great, but what makes it great is its willingness to be better! Our leaders may encourage the youth to join the fascist cause by showing them what fascism can do for the nation, and for Italians everywhere.

Alternatively, the youth were not present during the empire’s expansion: perhaps those who have not built the nation on their blood and toil will not know how to help govern it. The elders have known rough times in the past. Following their lead will allow for Italy to turn that painful past into wisdom, and then into progress. Protestors and illegal media can only weaken Italy from the inside, like a heady wine - if the youth are drunk on reformist ideals that can only hurt the country, a long sobriety will be needed to rehabilitate them. Preferably far away from harmful influences.

In terms of the stances:

• Moderate Fascists - They believe in compromise as usual.
• Young Fascists - Believe that power should be invested in the Youth, no questions asked. They believe that the old are too out of touch to run Italy and relate to Young Italians.
• True Fascists - They share the same views as the Moderates. They believe both Youth and the Elders are both valuable and have played a vital part in Italy and in Fascism where everyone regardless of status has a role to play.
• Status Quo - Would rather allow the Old to rule than an unpredictable youth.
• Reformists - Believe that all age groups are valuable.

 

[AeroTheZealousOne]

November and December 1962: The German Civil War drags on. There have been no major successful power plays as of yet, and the situation continues to look bleak for the people left in Germany. If someone doesn't gain a decisive upper hand, who knows what additional horror may befall Central Europe...?

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November 7th, 1962: The U.S. Midterm Elections occur on this date. The people of the United States of America will turn out in droves to vote in and vote out various candidates for public office. The entire body of the House of Representatives and one-third of the seats in the Senate are up for grabs in what is considered a reflection of how well of a job the country as a whole feels the President is doing...

With a majority of the votes counted, it is revealed that the Republican-Democrats have lost their majority in the House to a wave of newly-elected members of the National Progressive Party. The R-D's are reduced to fifty members in the Senate, but with Vice-President John Kennedy able to cast a tie-breaking vote if the opportunity arises, an effective majority is retained in the Senate, provided no one defects in any important future votes, of course. With this, the makeup of the 88th United States Congress is as follows, in order of number of seats held by each party or coalition:

U.S. House of Representatives:

Republican-Democratic Party (R-D): 212 seats
National Party (ANP): 130 seats
Liberal Party (ALP): 93 seats


U.S. Senate:

Republican-Democratic Party (R-D): 50 seats
National Party (ANP): 28 seats
Liberal Party (ALP): 22 seats


For the moment, even with a 32 percent approval rating, President Nixon appears on the surface to be completely and totally safe in his office with no fears of impeachment proceedings occurring for the duration of this term, especially considering the eventual split of the National Progressive Party into two parts. Subpoenas of various items may occur in the future, and there will still be numerous leaks to the press that make the President look bad, but it's nothing the Leader of the Free World can't handle, right?

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November 13, 1962: Insurrection in the fields and forests of Serbia is commonplace. Anti-fascist and anti-collaborationist militias have taken the fighting from underground cells to open armed resistance, the first time anyone has dared to do so in recent memory. Local authorities are scrambling to put down this "small nuisance", as local police have described it. No individual has spoken out about any leadership of this insurgency, but rumors of a small number of communists brandishing assault weapons spread like wildfire across the upper echelons of the national government.

November 18, 1962: Additional troops are brought in to put down the so-called "uprising" in Serbia. The violence only spreads, and more of the countryside finds itself in the hands of insurgents yearning for the freedom of Serbia in some way or another. German troops are too busy killing each other to intervene, and Serbia is not Italy's problem, so long as Croatia doesn't get involved.

 

[Tales Weaver]

July 29, 1962: As if things couldn't get worse, another crisis hits Japan. Following the leak of many scandals, the Yasuda zaibatsu comes tumbling down. In the stock market, all stocks on Yasuda are being sold at an alarming rate, while dozens of businessmen have committed suicide after seeing their fortune disappear in an instant.

August 12, 1962: mitsubishi reorganized into Keiretsu.

 

[Deleted member 107125]

21 December, 1962: Indian Prime Minister Jawaharlal Nehru is dead. Communal violence and insurgency continues to rise as the economy plummets due to the German civil war.
In Bombay, the Vishwa Hindu Parishad, the RSS, the Bharatiya Jana Sangh, and the Hindu Mahasabha officially declare a new alliance known as the Sangh Parivar, formed in order to combat the Communists and the Congress. This causes unspeakable violence. In Telangana, communist militias begin to form.
The already-unstable regions of Ceylon and Pakistan’s local assemblies are sweeped by pro-independence groups.
In Balochistan, an 18-year old Muslim named Mahmud Ahmed calls a Jihad.

 

[Guardonion]

1st of January 1963: The new year brings grim tidings to the already struggling Turkish 'Republic' as their already devastated economy is sent into free-fall by their disastrous stalemate in the Italo-Turkish War, the oppressive regime of Alparslan Türkeş starts to crumble at the seams as the previously silent voices of discontent start to echo throughout the country from the richest cities in the west to the most decrepit village in the East.

The voice of the army is the loudest and the boldest, having suffered the most during the war. Despite their status as an elite fighting force, their senile commanders had done nothing more than to use them as disposable cannon-fodder in their offensives in a vain effort to recapture the legendary prowess of the Great Mareşal Atatürk, then they had the gall to blame them for their idiotic tactics blowing up in their faces when the soldiers had been the ones to pay the price for them.

With even their great successes in the war like their heroic defense of Thrace from both the Bulgarians and the Greeks discarded so as to make them the scapegoat for the failure of their more influential superiors, several younger officers in the army have already started talks of a coup to return to the Atatürk's vision and reinstall the democracy he had envisioned would usher in the Turkish people into a new age, this idealistic outlook has only been bolstered by their recruitment of Sabiha Gökçen, Atatürk's adopted daughter and a fighter pilot who had distinguished herself many times during the war on the western front, widely considered to be an ideological clone of her father and a perfect fit to lead the faction.

The faction has already started secretly negotiating with the Italian Faction for their support, recognition, and vital neutrality, in exchange for a promise to rearrange the western borders should they emerge victorious.
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The Army is not the only faction that desires to see a change within the Republic however, the next threat to Türkeş' rule comes from the Grand National Assembly itself, by none other than his mentor Nihal Atsız, disgusted with the great failure of his protege and the perceived weakness of his ideology, the 'True Turk' has thrown himself into research to find what would be the next thing that would lead the Turkish people toward glory.

He has found his answer within the teachings of Heinrich Himmler, Ultranationalist-Socialism.

The aging demagogue has already started working tirelessly to subvert Türkeş' control over the Grey Wolves and the Army Elite who are disenchanted with his rule. Though only the former are privy to the extent of Atsız' new zealous ideology, the latter having been wooed with promises of conquest that would see the creation of a Pan-Turannic state realized, a facade kept extremely well with his increased calls of support for Saparmurat Niyazov and the Turkmen National-Socialists.

The true extent of his ideals however are made clear if one looks at his writings, for the man has already started drafting plans that would see the Turkish people re-embrace their nomadic roots, forcing their people out of the cities and forcing them to live off the land like their ancestors of old, setting aside the decadent urban lifestyle that has weakened their people and had cost them the war.

Many would die along the way, but that is a sacrifice he is willing to make. For only those of proper Turkic stock would be able thrive in the future he has envisioned, and the rest are just undesirable chaff that would be trampled under the hooves of the Sons of Tengri.

The Great Khan wills it.
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These are just the biggest competitors who want to decide just who will shape the future of Turkey, but they are not all...

Whether it be Islamists under Necmettin Erbakan that wanted to destroy Türkeş' atheist state and realize the National Outlook, a Leftist Coalition under the Communist Hikmet Kıvılcımlı that wanted to save both the Turkish people and the ones that suffered under the yoke of Turkish hegemony from Türkeş' tyranny and create a utopia where no one needed suffer under the tyranny of one man and his egoist lunacy any longer.

While neither of these factions have the means employed by either Gökçen's Republicans, Atsız' Fanatics or even Türkeş' Conservatives, they do enjoy widespread support from the people who are tired of constant oppression and just want to live a better life. A life where they do not have to wonder if today is the day that their children are taken away to die in the army, and they themselves are to be taken to a corner and promptly shot without anyone even lifting a finger to help them for fear that they were next to suffer a swift execution for being a 'Traitor to the Republic'.

Whatever that means anymore....
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Factions

CHP Loyalists: Centered around Ankara and most of Central Anatolia, led by Alparslan Türkeş, though his leadership is increasingly put into question as he grows more and more erratic with his decisions.

True Kemalists: Centered around Thrace and the Northwestern coast of the Black Sea, led by Sabiha Gökçen and has a healthy support base within the discontented ranks of the Turkish Armed Forces.

Ultranationalist-Socialist Kurultai: Their support is scattered throughout the Northeastern Black Sea and the Mediterranean Coast, led by the aging Nihal Atsız who enjoys the support of the fanatic Grey Wolves and the deceived Military Elite.

Islamist Front: They have a firm base of support in South-eastern Turkey, Turkish Syria and Turkish Kurdistan, though most of their manpower consists of Turkish Islamists as a result of two decades of Genocide perpetrated against them by the Türkeş Regime. Even though their volunteer militias are a zealous fighting force, they have a considerable disadvantage when it comes to equipment. Led by Necmettin Erbakan and firmly united behind his ideology to create a Pan-Islamic state and 'punish the infidels'.

Leftist Coalition: While they have a follower in almost every industrial zone suffering underneath the yoke of Türkeş, most of it is concentrated in the Aegean Coastline and İzmir (Smyrna). Having their base of support be in industrial zones might solve the issue of equipment, they find that balancing production with finding enough manpower for their resistance to be increasingly difficult. Hikmet Kıvılcımlı leads this coalition, although they are unified behind him for now, who knows what will happen to their fragile unity if they emerge victorious from the coming conflict?

 

[Twiggierjet]

True Kemalists: Centered around Thrace and the Northwestern coast of the Black Sea, led by Sabiha Gökçen and has a healthy support base within the discontented ranks of the Turkish Armed Forces.

Which ideology would the true kemalists be?

 

[Whiteshore]

Which ideology would the true kemalists be?

AuthDems initially but can go SocDem or LibDem.

 

[Whiteshore]

So, what should the Conservative Democrat path of Turkey be? I was thinking of something regarding Adnan Menderes or his political allies.

 

[Guardonion]

Which ideology would the true kemalists be?

What @Whiteshore said, although one must consider them to be the 'worst of the best' decisions when it comes to picking sides. For all one prefers them to Atsız and Türkeş and their status as the 'most likely to win if everything goes to plan', I consider them to be the clone of the current Turkish Republic and all of its faults. even if they are going to be significantly more aggressive towards anyone with dictatorial tendencies.

They have no intention of letting go of any Eastern acquisition for one, and the junta that would rule until democracy could be re-established is not going to be kind to anyone who veers off the Kemalist principles. Like the Separatists, Islamists or the Leftist Coalition, the latter of which does have the SocDems and the LibDems mind you, there is a reason those guys did not join up with them, as there is a significant chance they might actually go Fascist instead of AuthDem.

Not exactly helpful.

 

[Whiteshore]

as there is a significant chance they might actually go Fascist instead of AuthDem.

And the ConDems would be Adnan Menderes types as I suggested?

 

[Guardonion]

And the ConDems would be Adnan Menderes types as I suggested?

If he manages to keep his head down and not anger the Kemalist Army, he might avoid his OTL fate (the army is going to be a much more zealous 'enforcer of democracy' like I said) though he might just have been radicalized enough to join the Islamist Front in Türkeş' role.

 

[Whiteshore]

If he manages to keep his head down and not anger the Kemalist Army, he might avoid his OTL fate (the army is going to be a much more zealous 'enforcer of democracy' like I said) though he might just have been radicalized enough to join the Islamist Front in Türkeş' role.

But yeah, the Conservative Democrats, assuming he isn't radicalized, would probably be led by him?