TLIAW: The Kampferkrieg

MERRICA

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Also how is Germany taking all this in? I imagine that they will busy hyperventilating and launching missions to take the Reich out.
 
Also how is Germany taking all this in? I imagine that they will busy hyperventilating and launching missions to take the Reich out.

Yeah, Germany which was thoroughly denazified (a process helped along by a securer pathway for Nazis to leave the country unmolested) is one of the country's most loudly calling to bring the hammer down.

EDIT: The block to that of course is that all Germany is allowed is a Japan style Self-Defence Force
 
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This is great, Mumby. I mean, it's horrible, but it's great. The parallelism is done very well; there's nothing obvious or in-your-face, but it all follows on from an established OTL trope that has unimaginable consequences when ratcheted up a notch. I like Maheiu's attempts to justify the 'voyages' of the Nazis as well, that feels very plausible.

(Nuking Cologne though – oh Mumby, how could you?)
 
This is great, Mumby. I mean, it's horrible, but it's great. The parallelism is done very well; there's nothing obvious or in-your-face, but it all follows on from an established OTL trope that has unimaginable consequences when ratcheted up a notch. I like Maheiu's attempts to justify the 'voyages' of the Nazis as well, that feels very plausible.

(Nuking Cologne though – oh Mumby, how could you?)

Thanks!

i was just looking for weak parallels to hiroshima and nagasaki
 

MERRICA

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And how is the 4th Reich treated in the US? I would see a Republican presidential campaign with a major part of their platform based heavily on intervention in the Reich since , y'know THEY ARE FUCKING NAZIS!!
 
And how is the 4th Reich treated in the US? I would see a Republican presidential campaign with a major part of their platform based heavily on intervention in the Reich since , y'know THEY ARE FUCKING NAZIS!!

The rhetoric is similar to OTL against ISIS. Really the US is frustrated by their partners like Britain and France who voted against bombing Argentina for doing war crimes against the democratic rebels, and now everyone is trying to get their heads around intervening on the side of the war criminals. The Soviets are no less keen on intervention than America but don't like the idea of propping up a neoliberal military dictator
 

MERRICA

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The rhetoric is similar to OTL against ISIS. Really the US is frustrated by their partners like Britain and France who voted against bombing Argentina for doing war crimes against the democratic rebels, and now everyone is trying to get their heads around intervening on the side of the war criminals. The Soviets are no less keen on intervention than America but don't like the idea of propping up a neoliberal military dictator

I get your reasoning but one thing that just sticks out in my head is that they are literal Nazis. Not neo-nazis, actual Nazis who go full medieval on their dissenters. And they are also within America's traditional SOI ( The America's) Making it just baffling to me.
 
I get your reasoning but one thing that just sticks out in my head is that they are literal Nazis. Not neo-nazis, actual Nazis who go full medieval on their dissenters. And they are also within America's traditional SOI ( The America's) Making it just baffling to me.

Like I say, it's not that they don't want to, it's that it's difficult to do unilaterally. Of course I should imagine there are lots of 'volunteers' fighting the Nazis. And a political movement calling for unilateral invasion.

I'm sure that there are plenty of Nazi-Isis fanboys on the internet ITTL, flooding the place with memes and trolling everywhere.

ugh

no pls
 
I like this a lot. (Patagonian Rojava is almost as good an idea as Nazi ISIS just on its own.)

Part of why this is interesting is because, like Agent Lavender, it takes historical myths and conspiracy theories and half-truths and makes them more concrete and plausible. That could almost be its own sub-genre of alternate history.
 
I like this a lot. (Patagonian Rojava is almost as good an idea as Nazi ISIS just on its own.)

Part of why this is interesting is because, like Agent Lavender, it takes historical myths and conspiracy theories and half-truths and makes them more concrete and plausible. That could almost be its own sub-genre of alternate history.

I was really worried about co-opting conspiracy theories like ODESSA and other associated organisations, and it coming across as if I'm a conspiracy theorist.
 
I was really worried about co-opting conspiracy theories like ODESSA and other associated organisations, and it coming across as if I'm a conspiracy theorist.

I think these particular theories are so old and familiar in pop culture that playing with them isn't really a problem. If there was a TL where the premise was Bush Did 9/11, that might be a problem, but when I read about ODESSA I just think of OSS 117.
 
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