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A small nitpick: I doubt the West German capital would be Hannover as it would be seen as too regional and north focused.
From the OTL considered capitals it would either be Frankfurt (1848 revolution capital, de jure capital of the HRE), or if the Americans fucked that city up to much Aachen(If thats still German).
 
As for Australia i've got some suggestions for the 50s and 60s if you want them.
Aside from continuing White Australia, I've got very little idea of where I'm taking Australia. Your input would be appreciated.

A small nitpick: I doubt the West German capital would be Hannover as it would be seen as too regional and north focused.
From the OTL considered capitals it would either be Frankfurt (1848 revolution capital, de jure capital of the HRE), or if the Americans fucked that city up to much Aachen(If thats still German).
Frankfurt it is then (it hasn't been annex by anyone last I checked).
 
How are things in Africa and South East Asia? I could see Cambodia and Laos with Red insurrections.

As for Australia, more German migrants.

I was thinking more like this
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It allow Poland to create the massive Silesian Metropolis/greater Krakow industrial area. (something like 1/7 of Poland population live there today). While East Germany keep control over Waldenburg (Walbrzych), which would the East German main source of coal (in East Germany there was almost only lignite, which is a less valuable fuel than real coal).

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The revision of the Oder-Neisse line will do much to make the GDR as the legitimate Germany.
 
Assuming reunification is possible, would the GDR even want West Germany?
More cheap labor...of course, you won't be getting much in the way of subsidies. Hm...west german country bumpkin coming to the SOCIALIST UTOPIA of the east. There is an interesting plot for media ITL. Of course you can both play it straight(the rube gets enlightend and becomes the New Soviet Man) or subvert it (Its not all gold that glitters and criticism of "real socialism" i.e. "Real existierender Sozialismus")
 
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Bulganin's Road Trip
1953
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South Africa, Denmark, Soviet Union
1950's

1954 Midterm Elections
As expected the Chinese invasion of Formosa, and the subsequent American declaration of war against Mao's China, energized the electorate and generated a brief rally-around-the-flag effect for the Democrats. Worse yet for the Republicans, Majority Leader McCarthy proved wholly incapable of filling the shoes of his predecessors. While Wherry and Bricker struck fear into the congressional caucus during their respective tenures, Tailgunner Joe did little to inspire obedience or loyalty. Whispers also began circling about how McCarthy had "embellished" his wartime accomplishments. McCarthy's self-aggrandizement would play a major role in his eventual downfall. But as for the 54' elections themselves, the Republicans predictably lost their plurality. While the loss itself was not surprising, the winners of the vacated Republican seats were wholly unexpected. While half of the defeated Republicans were jettisoned by Democrats, the other half were unseated by third-party challengers. This left both major parties, once again, without a proper majority. It was widely expected that Democratic Leader Lester C. Hunt would form an informal coalition with the Conscience Party to form a majority as the Republicans had with the Dixiecrats in 52'. Unfortunately this was not to be. Just days after winning re-election to his Wyoming seat, Lester Hunt received an envelope containing information about his son. The unwritten message was clear, resign or Lester Jr. would be exposed as a homosexual. Mr. Hunt chose a third option and was found dead at his desk later that day with a rifle in his bloodstained hands. [1] The Governor of Wyoming, a loyal McCarthyite, named a Republican replacement for Hunt and the Republican-States' Rights coalition maintained their majority...​

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United States Senate 1954
Creator: Perfidious Albion
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[1] McCarthy and his allies drove Hunt to suicide IOTL as well.
 
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A race had already begun among the Western European powers to build modern continuous casting and basic oxygen furnaces that would put Germany to shame. In the case of France and Britain, the modernization effort necessitated the abandoning of existing plants wholesale and the building of new ones along the coasts. Cities like Dunkirk, Teesside, Port Glasgow, Marseilles and Le Havre were among the first to make extensive use of gastarbeiter for these tasks. Although such "spendthrift" projects would have been balked at by Paris and London just a half-decade prior, the reneging of American aid under President Taft had put things in perspective. France and the United Kingdom would have to put modernizing their economies above everything else lest they be forever dependent on Washington.

Although the new Anglo-British automotive industry drove demand for steel and other products, the Europeans knew the Germans were strapped for cash. Any trade deal negotiated by the Bundestag would inevitably favor the other party. In this uncertain environment young Germans continued to seek work outside the country, the GDR being an attractive choice after Bulganin's reforms...

Perfect! France and the United Kingdom can become the "Japans of Europe" TTL if they play their card rights! Financing the reconstruction TTL could conceivably be done through some kind of "compulsory savings". Keynes wanted to pay the war this way OTL. The labour movement may not like it, unless this is combined through some kind of "ownership" of the new facilities, primarily through shares. Call it "mass capitalism" It might also mean being somewhat ruthless in terms of overseas commitment and only keeping overseas territories that yield a positive return on investment.

When western Europe recovers economically to OTL levels and by the 1960s it will have. It'll be truly standing on its own two feet with a large industrial base able to meet the needs of a large defence sector. Defence integration will also spur the development of aerospace companies forward.
 
An open question to everyone. Anyone have any idea who Morgenthau would appoint to the supreme court?
 
Regarding Red Italy, well, by now the revolutionary zeal of '48 it will be dead; Italy has not become a communist nation and by now, as OTL, the bulk of the communist memberships while continuing to support the PCI has gone to more important thing aka continue to rebuild their lifes and the nation.

The Free Territory of Trieste will be a complicated thing; getting back will be an enourmous PR coup for Togliatti (or any goverment in charge at the moment), expecially with relation with Jugoslavia being not good with the rest of the communist nation.
 
Regarding Red Italy, well, by now the revolutionary zeal of '48 it will be dead; Italy has not become a communist nation and by now, as OTL, the bulk of the communist memberships while continuing to support the PCI has gone to more important thing aka continue to rebuild their lifes and the nation.

The Free Territory of Trieste will be a complicated thing; getting back will be an enourmous PR coup for Togliatti (or any goverment in charge at the moment), expecially with relation with Jugoslavia being not good with the rest of the communist nation.

The Christian Democrats held power in Italy from 1946-1981 if I recall correctly. I expect the Communists will replace the CD's ITTL. But it won't be a Communist country, it will continue to be a democracy. As for Trieste, I've had it stay independent ITTL. Britain will likely keep a base there between Red Italy and Tito's Yugoslavia.
 
The Christian Democrats held power in Italy from 1946-1981 if I recall correctly. I expect the Communists will replace the CD's ITTL. But it won't be a Communist country, it will continue to be a democracy. As for Trieste, I've had it stay independent ITTL. Britain will likely keep a base there between Red Italy and Tito's Yugoslavia.

It was...complicated, very complicated and involved a lot of dealing and weeling (and the fear of a communist takeover took his share...plus TBH, it's not that Italy has been a particulary left nation, even the communist were a little conservative for anyone else standard...except when the boss was involved but this is another story), negotiations and remember the Christian Democrats were more a 'first among peers' coalition leader than an hegemon
 
It was...complicated, very complicated and involved a lot of dealing and weeling (and the fear of a communist takeover took his share...plus TBH, it's not that Italy has been a particulary left nation, even the communist were a little conservative for anyone else standard...except when the boss was involved but this is another story), negotiations and remember the Christian Democrats were more a 'first among peers' coalition leader than an hegemon.

I expect the Communists will become the coalition leaders ITTL. Probably in coalition with the Socialist parties?
 
Count me in the "don't retcon Pepper and keep on with the TL" camp.

An open question to everyone. Anyone have any idea who Morgenthau would appoint to the supreme court?

From looking at both the FDR and Truman pages for prospective Supreme Court candidates:

  • Sam G. Bratton- considered by both Truman and FDR IOTL.
  • Charles Fahy- Solicitor General during WWII. Might not be as likely since he left IOTL to help Eisenhower (at his request) in Germany so he could be tarred with that mess.
  • Joseph Chappell Hutcheson, Jr- OTL was an a commission that recommended more Jewish refugees be allowed into Israel. Bonus of being both a southerner and a bipartisan choice (OTL was a chair of the Texas GOP in the 1950s).
  • Sherman Minton- for seats that opened after 1946, since he had a heart attack in late 1945 that required three months of hospitalization.
  • Robert J. Patterson- Truman OTL was planning to offer him the seat left open by Owen Roberts, but offered him the position of Secretary of War instead when that opened up. Also a bipartisan choice.
  • Lewis B. Schwellenbach- wanted to be on the Supreme Court IOTL.
  • Walter P. Stacy- southerner who FDR considered for the seat that eventually went to Hugo Black
  • Fred Vinson- worked under Morgenthau as head of the Office of Economic Stabilization in the war.
 
I expect the Communists will become the coalition leaders ITTL. Probably in coalition with the Socialist parties?

And here i see problems; well it's that i don't see Togliatti as a long time coalition leader; one thing is stay at the opposition and keep the other left parties in line but another is calling the shot of the goverment with success and failure and trying to divide the various goverment appointment with other parties. He is at heart a stalinist autocrat and overall stalin fanboy, IMHO it not traslate very well in a national democratic goverment...at least not at level of the Democrazia Cristiana (that was more an ensemble of sub-parties).

Basically, while unity in the left was very important on the opposition, so important that even the OTL 1956 Hungarian revolt was not enough to broke it (but come very close), a continued goverment coalition it's a too big stress.
 
For some reason i can't see any of the pictures you posted in this treat :( Could you please tell me what the biggest third parties are?
 
And here i see problems; well it's that i don't see Togliatti as a long time coalition leader; one thing is stay at the opposition and keep the other left parties in line but another is calling the shot of the goverment with success and failure and trying to divide the various goverment appointment with other parties. He is at heart a stalinist autocrat and overall stalin fanboy, IMHO it not traslate very well in a national democratic goverment...at least not at level of the Democrazia Cristiana (that was more an ensemble of sub-parties).

Basically, while unity in the left was very important on the opposition, so important that even the OTL 1956 Hungarian revolt was not enough to broke it (but come very close), a continued goverment coalition it's a too big stress.
Maybe he retires when Bulganin come to power and a more competent leader takes over?
 
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