For that matter, what about the Pope ? Is he still based in Rome or has the Papacy relocated somewhere else (maybe South America) ? I presume that Clement XV mentioned in the Livingstone post was one of TTL's popes.
Cheers,
Nigel.
Vatican City was left largely to its own devices when Italy fell to the Red Army. There was a certain sense of
fait accompli, in that the papacy couldn't heavily criticise the Antwerp Pact or Soviet Union for obvious reasons. However, as liberalisation crept in, the papacy became bolder and Clement XV was the first French pope since the 14th century.
Another interesting question is what happens to the CofE when the Republic is proclaimed. Does it become like the Episcopalian church in the US? I can still see a typical British fudge with the General Secretary appointing the Archbishop of Canterbury and nobody seeing any problem with that.
Regards
R
That fudge is essentially what happened, yes. The CPCGB was not happy with religion ideologically but did not want to take on the CofE or CofS any more than the Italian Social Republic wanted to take on the Pope.
I was also going to ask what happened to the Windsors. I noticed that the update which mentioned the princesses going to Canada and the King killing himself was silent on the whereabouts of the Queen. Do any of the OTL Commonwealth realms still have Elizabeth on the throne?
Well, with the King dead and 'the princesses' on their way to Canada, doesn't that tell you something about where the woman we call the Queen has ended up? Think about it
Almost - it's the CPCGP (Communist Party of the Commonwealth of Great Britain), a quirk that allowed them to claim continuity with the pre-war Communist Party but actually purge it and claim a 'new party' was now leading the vanguard to Communism. Also, Wedgwood-Benn was never actually Chief Secretary, he just chaired the meeting to elect a new one, which up until then had meant a guaranteed victory in said election. Livingstone called in some longstanding favours and alliances, and stole the prize from under Wedgie's nose.
Thank you to everyone who read and commented. At some people's request, here are some leader lists for the major nations that I gave some thought to.
United Kingdom (1801-1941)/Commonwealth of Great Britain (1941-present)
1935 – 1939: George Lansbury (Labour)
1939 – 1940: Anthony Eden (Conservative)
1940: Winston Churchill (Conservative leading Wartime Coalition) †
1940 – 1946: David Lloyd George (NAP) †
1946 – 1951: Stafford Cripps (CPCGB) †
1951 – 1968: Charles Latham (CPCGB)
1968 – 1969: John Powell (CPCGB)
1969 – 1976: Vic Feather (CPCGB) †
1976 – 1984: Max Levitas (CPCGB) †
1984 – 1990: Jimmy Reid (CPCGB)
1990 – 2008: Ken Livingstone (CPCGB)
2008 – 2014: Michael Sugar (CPCGB)
2014 - ????: John Teach (CPCGB) *
Union of Soviet Socialist Republics
1926-1953: Joseph Stalin (CPSU)
1953-1964: Nikita Khrushchev (CPSU)
1964-1968: Alexei Kosygin (CPSU)
1968-1978: Lazar Kaganovich (CPSU)
1978-1986: Nikolai Tikhonov (CPSU)
1986-2000: Grigory Romanov (CPSU)
2000-2008: Mikhail Gorbachev (CPSU)
2008-present Sergei Ivanov: (CPSU) *
United States of America
1933-1945: Franklin Delano Roosevelt (Democratic)
1945-1948: Henry Wallace (Democratic)
1949-1957: Thomas Dewey (Republican)
1957-1961: Henry Cabot Lodge, Jr
1961-1965: Joseph P. Kennedy Jr (Democratic)
1965-1969: Nile Kinnick (Republican)
1969-1973: George Wallace (Democratic) †
1973-1977: Terry Sanford (Democratic)
1977-1981: Nile Kinnick (Republican)
1981-1989: Edmund Muskie (Democratic)
1989-1993: Robert Redford (Democratic)
1993-2001: Joseph Biden (Republican)
2001-2009: David Rockefeller (Democratic) *
2009-present: Ron Paul (Republican)
* Fictional or so butterflied they might as well be.
Finally, the question of what happened to the royal family in Canada. Well, Canada voted to become a republic in 1961, and as Princess Elizabeth was never crowned, few people actually consider her Queen. The Empire collapsed into Soviet-dominated African states and a very COMECON-friendly India, so there really wasn't much need for a Queen (or Empress) anymore. As such, Princess Elizabeth quietly changed her official style to Lady Elizabeth Windsor in the 1970s. She still lives in Churchill House in Ottawa today.
