TL Idea: Batman Alternate Actors/Films

The Batman (1985) - Directed by Richard Donner.
Batman/Bruce Wayne: Mel Gibson.
The Joker: Tim Curry.
Rupert Thorne: Martin Sheen.
Commissioner Gordon: William Holden. (he lives ttl)
Silver St. Cloud: Melanie Griffith.
Alfred Pennyworth: Peter Cushing.
Robin/Dick Grayson: Josh Brolin.

Generally followes Mankiewicz's OTL script, with the exclusion of the Penguin, who was cut out in order to put more of a focus on the Joker. Gibson is seen as a good choice who can balance camp and drama. Some criticize Curry's Joker for his not very convincing american accent, but otherwise he gives a solid and even somewhat scary performance. The biggest praise the movie gets is for introducing the character of Dick Grayson three quarters of the way through the plot, and his partial transition into Robin by the finale.

Grosses about $300,000,000 domestically.

Batman: Knightfall (1988) - Directed by Ivan Reitman.
Batman/Bruce Wayne: Mel Gibson.
Robin/Dick Grayson: Josh Brolin.
Mister Freeze: Sam Neill.
The Penguin: Dustin Hoffman.
Mike Sekowski: LeVar Burton.
Silver St. Cloud: Melanie Griffith.
Commissioner Paxton: Jeff Bridges.
Alfred:
Peter Cushing.
The Joker: Tim Curry.

This film is darker than the first, but not by much. Batman, now with the adolescent Dick Grayson at his side, has to square off against the menacing Mr. Freeze and the Penguin, who plan to turn Gotham into a frozen wasteland. He also has to deal with a rogue vigilante group called 'The Night League', led by the idealistic but cunning Mike Sekowski, who use violent tactics to fight crime.

Midway through the film, Sekowski's gang turns against Batman, seeing him as weak for not being willing to kill. This works to the villains' benefit, as Batman is distracted. They use this advantage to attempt to free Arkham's high security prisoners, but are foiled at the very last minute by the GCPD.

In the end, a conflict between Freeze and the Penguin over curing Freeze's wife leads to Freeze shooting the Penguin and getting captured by Batman. Sekowski and the Night League are arrested. The last scene implies that the Scarecrow will feature in the next movie.

William Holden's illness meant that Commissioner Gordon had to be 'retired' in between movies. His replacement, Commissioner David Paxton, is a cynical but mostly clean cop.

St. Cloud has a lesser role in this sequel. The original script had her dying at the Penguin's hands, but that was deemed far too dark for the finished product, and she was merely injured.

The Joker has a cameo as one of the major Arkham denizens who almost break out.
 
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Batman: Gotham Rises (1992) - Directed by Ivan Reitman.
Bruce Wayne/Batman:
Mel Gibson.
Jonathen Crane/The Scarecrow: Kevin Spacey.
Dick Grayson/Robin: Josh Brolin.
Commissioner Paxton: Jeff Bridges.
Barbara Gordon/Batgirl: Christina Applegate.
Alfred: Peter Cushing.
Bane: Kane Hodder.
Sal Maroni: Bob Hoskins.

Can't think of much for the plot right now, but imagine it as the Scarecrow attempting to use his fear toxins to overthrow the Gotham hierarchy.

Bane, while still pretty 'meaty', is much smarter in this film than in Batman and Robin.
 
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Why didn't we think of it before: Prince as the Joker.

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I watch this site a lot. It's a good reference for what was and what could have been.

http://www.1989batman.com/

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The interesting thing is not even the basic "WI Burton did Batman III?". It's the possibilities of a different Batman II, and the possibility of differences in the first Batman. For example, Batman II was originally thought of as a direct sequel to the events of Batman, where Bruce Wayne and Vicki Vale were still together, and would adopt an orphan named Dick Grayson, while Batman fought an arms dealing Penguin with his assassin Catwoman. And there was another potential plot where it'd be Penguin and Mr. Freeze planning to freeze over Gotham. Some of that's been mentioned already. In terms of the first Batman, initially there was a lot more of trying to cram in everything. You very nearly saw Robin in that movie.
 
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When I get the 'Batman: Legends of the Screen' thread up, what I ask is that when you post your vignettes, you make it "content fat" to a reasonable degree. Something like a TLIAP at least. That's why I want to post something myself to start off with.
 
When I get the 'Batman: Legends of the Screen' thread up, what I ask is that when you post your vignettes, you make it "content fat" to a reasonable degree. Something like a TLIAP at least. That's why I want to post something myself to start off with.

I've got a lengthy post with cast and crew, plot synopsis, production notes, and cultural impact and that's just for the first film of a trilogy. Just waiting for you to put the thread up and I need to make some finishing touches. If you missed it earlier when I posted, it is a Batman trilogy by Arthur Penn starring Steve McQueen. The first film is released in 1968. This series of films replaces the OTL Batman TV series and the Bonnie and Clyde film.
 
WI Batman and Robin was remade but in a similarly poor fashion

Batman and Robin (2013) - Directed by Martin Campbell*
Bruce Wayne/Batman: Jake Gyllenhall **
Dick Grayson/Robin: Dave Franco
Poison Ivy: Kiera Knightley ***
Bane: Paul Wight Jr. / 'Big Show'
Mr. Freeze: Dolph Lundgren ****
Barbara Wilson/Batgirl: Jenette McCurdy *****
Alfred Pennyworth: Ian McKellen ******


*I know he directed Goldeneye, but he also directed Green Lantern, and we know how that turned out.
** In the sense that he looks like Bruce Wayne, but IMO couldn't really work well as him.
*** Okay, this may be a bit harsh on Uma Thurman.
**** Duh.
***** This one I was rather unsure about. I was thinking about Chloe Grace Moretz, but she may be a bit too young.
****** no idea on this one. Maybe Terence Stamp instead?
 
Stop stalking! If you have something written just post jt

I'm not stalking anyone. The restraining order finally went through.

And I don't have anything written and I am busy till the 13th because college isn't over, meaning I intended to post the thread on the 14th, but the forum is closed from the 12th to the 16th, meaning those plans are shot. I have time to BS, but I won't have the free time to manage and steer a thread until sadly a period of time the forum will be down. I blame Thande.
 
I'm trying to figure out a cast for a batman film in my timeline A King for President. It's called Batman Continues, released in 2006, and it's the second Batman film in the timeline's D.C. Extended Universe. I've already nailed down Heath Ledger as Batman, Bryan Cranston as Commissioner Gordon, and Jared Leto as the Joker.
 
I'm trying to figure out a cast for a batman film in my timeline A King for President. It's called Batman Continues, released in 2006, and it's the second Batman film in the timeline's D.C. Extended Universe. I've already nailed down Heath Ledger as Batman, Bryan Cranston as Commissioner Gordon, and Jared Leto as the Joker.
Gary Oldman as Ra's?
 
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