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THE KINGFISH

THE KINGFISH

Otakuninja2006 said:
Ok......

The mid/late 70s to begin, mainly so Disney can buy Atari, but TL actually has it's story begin early enough to save Walt Disney so he can have kids.
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Personally, I would mainly keep it centered on Atari - as I feel that the Disney stuff would overshadow Atari.

If I were making an Atari TL - I would have the premise/POD be that Atari stays independent and goes public to finance stuff like the 2600.
 
Beetlejuice the Rizzler

Beetlejuice the Rizzler

THEKINGFISH217 said:
Personally, I would mainly keep it centered on Atari - as I feel that the Disney stuff would overshadow Atari.

If I were making an Atari TL - I would have the premise/POD be that Atari stays independent and goes public to finance stuff like the 2600.
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How could that be possible? Any ideas? And I think if done right, Disney and Atari would be a force to be reckoned with.
 
THE KINGFISH

THE KINGFISH

Otakuninja2006 said:
How could that be possible? Any ideas? And I think if done right, Disney and Atari would be a force to be reckoned with.
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Going public was one of the original ideas Bushnell and Dabney had. And besides, going public and basically becoming a corporation has benefits - such as being able to raise capital from Wall Street - which from my understanding Atari needed in order to enter the console market.

Knowing how Disney was functioning in the 1970s, I’d doubt they would handle Atari better than Warner Bros. did unless people like Eisner, Wells, and Katzenberg came to power earlier. I would also recommend against something like Hensonverse where someone with real love for Disney takes over - mainly because that scenario would overshadow the Atari scenario.

Maybe this is a TL the two of us could collaborate on like how @RySenkari and @Nivek both made Player Two Start. Thoughts?
 

Tacomaster

Tacomaster said:
Kinda like my (not abandoned, trust me) idea of if WB‘s animation division didn’t close in 1969. Most of the changes are due to that, at least at first. The later ones are due to a domino effect type thing.
  • There’s a bigger adult animation boom in the 70s thanks in part to WB’s Li’l Abner series
  • More film studios are getting back into the animation business, primarily for TV, thanks to WB’s success
  • An earlier anime boom thanks to WB, with the starting mix of W7’s existing IOTL anime series Marine Boy and Joe Oriolo’s dub of Choppy and the Princess/Princess Knight, with Oriolo being in charge of WB Animation thanks to his work on W7 IOTL series Johnny Cypher in Dimension Zero.
  • Fat Albert is produced at WB later on because Bill Cosby worked with WB Records for a while IOTL, and the only reason it didn’t happen earlier was because I legitimately didn’t know.
And so on and so forth
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@THEKINGFISH217 how is this
 
THE KINGFISH

THE KINGFISH

Tacomaster said:
Kinda like my (not abandoned, trust me) idea of if WB‘s animation division didn’t close in 1969. Most of the changes are due to that, at least at first. The later ones are due to a domino effect type thing.
  • There’s a bigger adult animation boom in the 70s thanks in part to WB’s Li’l Abner series
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Was Li’l Abner an actual planned project by Warner Bros. Animation IOTL? I know you said that most of WBA’s initial projects in that TL were OTL's planned theatrical projects.
Tacomaster said:
  • More film studios are getting back into the animation business, primarily for TV, thanks to WB’s success
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Seems reasonable. I also think that there’s a chance animation quality might be better in the 70s with more content from studios driving down demand for constant episodes - basic supply and demand.

IOTL’s 1975 - about 80% of Saturday morning cartoons were produced by Hanna-Barbera. But with Warner Bros., Rankin-Bass, and even Universal/Lantz joining in - there’d be a lot more competition. Not to mention the higher budgets.

This would probably get even better by the time the 1980s roll around - as towards the end of that decade IOTL television animation started to dramatically increase in quality.
Tacomaster said:
  • An earlier anime boom thanks to WB, with the starting mix of W7’s existing IOTL anime series Marine Boy and Joe Oriolo’s dub of Choppy and the Princess/Princess Knight, with Oriolo being in charge of WB Animation thanks to his work on W7 IOTL series Johnny Cypher in Dimension Zero.
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Seems reasonable, considering Joe Oriolo and Seven-Arts had some anime dubs on their hands.
Tacomaster said:
  • Fat Albert is produced at WB later on because Bill Cosby worked with WB Records for a while IOTL, and the only reason it didn’t happen earlier was because I legitimately didn’t know.
And so on and so forth
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Cool!
 

Tacomaster

Honestly I think even the one I’m doing RN is a bit unrealistic, but I’m continuing it rather than starting from scratch.
 
Beetlejuice the Rizzler

Beetlejuice the Rizzler

THEKINGFISH217 said:
Going public was one of the original ideas Bushnell and Dabney had. And besides, going public and basically becoming a corporation has benefits - such as being able to raise capital from Wall Street - which from my understanding Atari needed in order to enter the console market.
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Well, if you put it that way, then that is better off for Atari's future.
THEKINGFISH217 said:
Knowing how Disney was functioning in the 1970s, I’d doubt they would handle Atari better than Warner Bros. did unless people like Eisner, Wells, and Katzenberg came to power earlier. I would also recommend against something like Hensonverse where someone with real love for Disney takes over - mainly because that scenario would overshadow the Atari scenario.
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Oh......
THEKINGFISH217 said:
Maybe this is a TL the two of us could collaborate on like how @RySenkari and @Nivek both made Player Two Start. Thoughts?
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Yes! I'd love to! What'cha think @THEKINGFISH217?
THEKINGFISH217 said:
Was Li’l Abner an actual planned project by Warner Bros. Animation IOTL? I know you said that most of WBA’s initial projects in that TL were OTL's planned theatrical projects.

Seems reasonable. I also think that there’s a chance animation quality might be better in the 70s with more content from studios driving down demand for constant episodes - basic supply and demand.

IOTL’s 1975 - about 80% of Saturday morning cartoons were produced by Hanna-Barbera. But with Warner Bros., Rankin-Bass, and even Universal/Lantz joining in - there’d be a lot more competition. Not to mention the higher budgets.

This would probably get even better by the time the 1980s roll around - as towards the end of that decade IOTL television animation started to dramatically increase in quality.

Seems reasonable, considering Joe Oriolo and Seven-Arts had some anime dubs on their hands.

Cool!
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Tacomaster said:
Yes, and planned for primetime too. But then the shutdown happened
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THEKINGFISH217 said:
“We were on the verge of greatness! We were this close!”
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Yep!
 
The Future of TL-2K23
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    Beetlejuice the Rizzler

    Hello. Recently(aka for the past 2 months), I have been trying to figure out what to do with this thing....I tried everything, ranging from abandoning it, to killing it, to revamping it, to restarting it and everything in between, however, another side of me often tells me to use other ideas I have to continue this TL.........

    I know this has been a bit.....confusing, but I think I have a solution.....

    I WILL continue the TL as is, but with an primary focus on these two things at the time: The Viacom Scandal and The Disney-Universal Merger.

    Afterwards, this TL should go in a bit of a different direction.

    You should expect a update about general events in the early part of 2003 before this weekend is out.

    Thank You For Your Continued Support!
     
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