TL-191: Navy Blue and Gray - Naval Forces of the USA and CSA

Quick question, are any of the German or Japanese aircraft carriers nuclear powered? Just wondering, because you had shown it with the American carriers.
Originally, Japan had plans of putting a nuclear engine on Akagi-class but due to economic problems, it was canceled. The Yamamoto-class is the only nuclear-powered carrier that is under construction.
German carriers are nuclear-powered, I forgot to put it.
 
Originally, Japan had plans of putting a nuclear engine on Akagi-class but due to economic problems, it was canceled. The Yamamoto-class is the only nuclear-powered carrier that is under construction.
German carriers are nuclear-powered, I forgot to put it.
I just wanna say that the carriers look awesome, great job. But I have a few questions.
1. How did one of the Zuiho class carriers sink?
2. Is the Delaware class meant to be the Kitty Hawk class or the Forrestal class, and how come are they still in active service?
3. Is the La Follette class meant to be the Enterprise (CVN 65) just smaller?
4. Would you allow me to use you're sketches of the La Follette and the Hancock class to draw them in the shipbucket form? I would credit you for being the original inspiration.
 
I just wanna say that the carriers look awesome, great job. But I have a few questions.
1. How did one of the Zuiho class carriers sink?
2. Is the Delaware class meant to be the Kitty Hawk class or the Forrestal class, and how come are they still in active service?
3. Is the La Follette class meant to be the Enterprise (CVN 65) just smaller?
4. Would you allow me to use you're sketches of the La Follette and the Hancock class to draw them in the shipbucket form? I would credit you for being the original inspiration.
1. It went to a naval battle against the newly-formed Federal Chinese Navy during the East Asian Crisis. It was sunk by a submarine who luckily outmaneuvered the destroyers of the IJN.
2. Delaware-class is analogous to the Kitty Hawk-class, she went to extensive upgrades during 2004-2010. It will be replaced by the newer and nuclear-powered Remembrance-class carriers.
3. Ah yes, but its hull is more related to the Nimitz-class (The island of Enterprise-class looks appealing to me ;).)
4. Yes you may. But tbh, I used silhouette images of the carriers, which I found on the internet and mixed some parts to build new version of them.
 
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Collage for the vessels of the Confederate during the Second Great War
 
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I am impressed. A well done work. Will you do other navies?
My major quibble with this piece - besides the existence of a CSN aircraft carrier, which seems a little generous (unless it's a direct analogue to the Graf Zeppelin of our own timeline) - is that it might be a good idea to add a vertical red or blue stripe to the Confederate States naval ensign (circa Featherston), since flying a mostly-white flag during wartime can lead to some unfortunate misunderstandings and associated dangers.

Like being shot on the personal orders of Jacob Featherston for trying to make his navy fly a $&^*^$% surrender flag.
 
Some warships of the Austro-Hungarian Navy during the Second Great War

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Leopard class Light Cruiser (1928-1929)

Specifications (Following 1936 refit)
Weight: 6,511 long tons fully loaded
Propulsion: 2x AEG geared steam turbines, 8x Yarrow Boilers
Range: 2,500 nautical miles
Speed: 30 knots
Aviation Capacity: 3 Letov L-28 Seaplanes, 2 catapults
Armor:
  • Belt: 50mm
  • Deck: 25mm
  • Gun Shields: 20mm
  • Conning Tower: 90mm
Armament:
  • 5x 140mm/53-caliber Škoda K24 main guns
  • 2x 83mm/52-caliber Škoda K22 AA guns
  • 4x 40mm/64-caliber Škoda C24 AA guns (2x2)
  • 8x 15mm MG. 1936 AA machine-guns
  • 12x 450mm Torpedo Launchers (4x2)
Ship​
Builder​
Laid Down​
Launched​
Commissioned​
Fate​
SMS LeopardCNT MonfalconeJanuary 11, 1924December 9, 1927September 24, 1928Sunk by the French cruiser Colbert off in the Otranto Strait, May 2, 1942.
SMS PantherCNT MonfalconeMay 8, 1924June 10, 1928April 2, 1929Barracks Ship, 1950. Scuttled in Trieste, November 4, 1956.

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Budapest class Heavy Cruiser (1932-1934)

Specifications (Following 1940 refit)
Weight: 11,728 long tons fully loaded
Propulsion: 4x AEG geared steam turbines, 6x Marine Boilers
Range: 2,500 nautical miles
Speed: 32 knots
Aviation Capacity: 2 Letov L-28 Seaplanes, 1 catapult
Armor:
  • Belt: 140mm
  • Deck: 45mm
  • Turrets: 200mm
  • Barbettes: 150mm
  • Gun Shields: 20mm
  • Anti-Torpedo Bulkhead: 75mm
  • Conning Tower: 145mm
Armament:
  • 8x 9.4-inch/42-caliber L/45 Škoda main guns (4x2)
  • 10x 83mm/52-caliber Škoda K22 DP guns (1x2) and (4x2)
  • 16x 40mm/64-caliber Škoda C24 AA guns (8x2)
  • 8x 15mm MG. 1936 AA machine-guns
  • 6x 553mm Torpedo Launchers (2x3)
Ship​
Builder​
Laid Down​
Launched​
Commissioned​
Decommissioned​
Fate​
SMS BudapestSTT, TriesteNovember 6, 1928July 6, 1930January 16, 1933November 10, 1956Seized by Italian Forces in Trieste, November 10, 1956. Scrapped in 1960.
SMS PragSTT, TriesteSeptember 29, 1928May 2, 1930December 1, 1932Sunk by Italian warships near Pola, October 29, 1956.
SMS WienSTT, TriesteJune 2, 1930February 12, 1933November 9, 1934November 10, 1956Seized by Italian Forces in Trieste, November 10, 1956. Sunk as a target, 1962.

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Wildfang class Destroyer (1941-1945)

Specifications (As built)
Weight: 2,543 long tons fully loaded
Propulsion: 2x AEG geared steam turbines, 4x Babcock and Wilcox boilers
Range: 2,100 nautical miles
Speed: 35.5 knots
Sensors: GHG Hydrophone, S-Gerät Sonar
Armament:
  • 4 x 120mm/43-caliber Škoda K37 main guns
  • 4 x 40mm/64-caliber Škoda C24 AA guns (2x2)
  • 4 x 15mm MG. 1936 AA machine-guns
  • 10 x 533mm torpedo tubes (2x4)
  • 2 Depth Charge Racks, 4 Depth Charge Throwers + 30 Depth Charges
  • 50 Naval Mines
Ship​
Builder​
Laid Down​
Launched​
Commissioned​
Decommissioned​
Fate​
SMS WildfangGanz-Danubius, Fiume1938December 23, 1939August 1941June, 1956Interned in Albania, June 13, 1956. Sold to Peru, 1958.
SMS UlanCNT Monfalcone1939September 15, 1940May 1942Sunk by Italian warships near Pola, October 29, 1956.
SMS PandurGanz-Danubius, Fiume1938March 30, 1940April 1941June, 1956Seized by Yugoslavian Rebels, June 11, 1956. Sunk by German aircraft in the Adriatic, September 1956.
SMS HuszárCNT Monfalcone1938June 28, 1940September 1941June 1956Interned in Albania, June 13, 1956. Sold to Peru, 1958.
SMS RékaMarinearsenal, Pola1940January 6, 1943January 1945June, 1956Seized by Yugoslavian Rebels, June 11, 1956. Surrendered to Italian forces, December 1956. Sold to Egypt, 1958.
SMS ScharfschützeGanz-Danubius, Fiume1938May 3, 1940July 1941Sunk by French warships in the Otranto Strait, May 1, 1942.
SMS VelebitGanz-Danubius, Fiume1938March 2, 1940April 1941June, 1956Seized by Yugoslavian Rebels, June 11, 1956. Sunk by German aircraft in Kotor Bay, February 1957.
SMS CsikósMarinearsenal, Pola1940December 7, 1942February 1944Sunk by Italian warships near Pola, October 29, 1956.
 
Some warships of the Austro-Hungarian Navy during the Second Great War

View attachment 793193
Leopard class Light Cruiser (1928-1929)

Specifications (Following 1936 refit)
Weight: 6,511 long tons fully loaded
Propulsion: 2x AEG geared steam turbines, 8x Yarrow Boilers
Range: 2,500 nautical miles
Speed: 30 knots
Aviation Capacity: 3 Letov L-28 Seaplanes, 2 catapults
Armor:
  • Belt: 50mm
  • Deck: 25mm
  • Gun Shields: 20mm
  • Conning Tower: 90mm
Armament:
  • 5x 140mm/53-caliber Škoda K24 main guns
  • 2x 83mm/52-caliber Škoda K22 AA guns
  • 4x 40mm/64-caliber Škoda C24 AA guns (2x2)
  • 8x 15mm MG. 1936 AA machine-guns
  • 12x 450mm Torpedo Launchers (4x2)
Ship​
Builder​
Laid Down​
Launched​
Commissioned​
Fate​
SMS LeopardCNT MonfalconeJanuary 11, 1924December 9, 1927September 24, 1928Sunk by the French cruiser Colbert off in the Otranto Strait, May 2, 1942.
SMS PantherCNT MonfalconeMay 8, 1924June 10, 1928April 2, 1929Barracks Ship, 1950. Scuttled in Trieste, November 4, 1956.

View attachment 793205
Budapest class Heavy Cruiser (1932-1934)

Specifications (Following 1940 refit)
Weight: 11,728 long tons fully loaded
Propulsion: 4x AEG geared steam turbines, 6x Marine Boilers
Range: 2,500 nautical miles
Speed: 32 knots
Aviation Capacity: 2 Letov L-28 Seaplanes, 1 catapult
Armor:
  • Belt: 140mm
  • Deck: 45mm
  • Turrets: 200mm
  • Barbettes: 150mm
  • Gun Shields: 20mm
  • Anti-Torpedo Bulkhead: 75mm
  • Conning Tower: 145mm
Armament:
  • 8x 9.4-inch/42-caliber L/45 Škoda main guns (4x2)
  • 10x 83mm/52-caliber Škoda K22 DP guns (1x2) and (4x2)
  • 16x 40mm/64-caliber Škoda C24 AA guns (8x2)
  • 8x 15mm MG. 1936 AA machine-guns
  • 6x 553mm Torpedo Launchers (2x3)
Ship​
Builder​
Laid Down​
Launched​
Commissioned​
Decommissioned​
Fate​
SMS BudapestSTT, TriesteNovember 6, 1928July 6, 1930January 16, 1933November 10, 1956Seized by Italian Forces in Trieste, November 10, 1956. Scrapped in 1960.
SMS PragSTT, TriesteSeptember 29, 1928May 2, 1930December 1, 1932Sunk by Italian warships near Pola, October 29, 1956.
SMS WienSTT, TriesteJune 2, 1930February 12, 1933November 9, 1934November 10, 1956Seized by Italian Forces in Trieste, November 10, 1956. Sunk as a target, 1962.

View attachment 793220
Wildfang class Destroyer (1941-1945)

Specifications (As built)
Weight: 2,543 long tons fully loaded
Propulsion: 2x AEG geared steam turbines, 4x Babcock and Wilcox boilers
Range: 2,100 nautical miles
Speed: 35.5 knots
Sensors: GHG Hydrophone, S-Gerät Sonar
Armament:
  • 4 x 120mm/43-caliber Škoda K37 main guns
  • 4 x 40mm/64-caliber Škoda C24 AA guns (2x2)
  • 4 x 15mm MG. 1936 AA machine-guns
  • 10 x 533mm torpedo tubes (2x4)
  • 2 Depth Charge Racks, 4 Depth Charge Throwers + 30 Depth Charges
  • 50 Naval Mines
Ship​
Builder​
Laid Down​
Launched​
Commissioned​
Decommissioned​
Fate​
SMS WildfangGanz-Danubius, Fiume1938December 23, 1939August 1941June, 1956Interned in Albania, June 13, 1956. Sold to Peru, 1958.
SMS UlanCNT Monfalcone1939September 15, 1940May 1942Sunk by Italian warships near Pola, October 29, 1956.
SMS PandurGanz-Danubius, Fiume1938March 30, 1940April 1941June, 1956Seized by Yugoslavian Rebels, June 11, 1956. Sunk by German aircraft in the Adriatic, September 1956.
SMS HuszárCNT Monfalcone1938June 28, 1940September 1941June 1956Interned in Albania, June 13, 1956. Sold to Peru, 1958.
SMS RékaMarinearsenal, Pola1940January 6, 1943January 1945June, 1956Seized by Yugoslavian Rebels, June 11, 1956. Surrendered to Italian forces, December 1956. Sold to Egypt, 1958.
SMS ScharfschützeGanz-Danubius, Fiume1938May 3, 1940July 1941Sunk by French warships in the Otranto Strait, May 1, 1942.
SMS VelebitGanz-Danubius, Fiume1938March 2, 1940April 1941June, 1956Seized by Yugoslavian Rebels, June 11, 1956. Sunk by German aircraft in Kotor Bay, February 1957.
SMS CsikósMarinearsenal, Pola1940December 7, 1942February 1944Sunk by Italian warships near Pola, October 29, 1956.
It seems like A-H went to war against Italy and lost their navy really bad
 
Would the Bayern, Derrflinger and Hindenburg not be more modernized? and the Herman Goering, shouldn't it be someone more prominent, like Manfred Von Richthofen?
There is a ship named Manfred von Richthofen within the Hermann Goring class CVL, and the Bayerns and Derfflingers I'd imagined got modernized along the same lines as the Warspite, with oil firing boilers, new fire control, and new secondary weapons.
 
With Alfred T. Mahan being President in TTL, would a destroyer class still be named for him? Naming warships for Presidents is really a Post-War phenomenon IRL. Not to mention a destroyer is a little small to be named after a President.
 
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