TL 191 HOI4 Mod Update and Discussion Thread

Is there a playable form of this somewhere?
they're still just starting the alpha build from what I've seen.
Why is occupied Canada a different country? You can just give the Canadian states to the US, but make them colony states, not core states
This. Dealing with Canada should be a major aspect of the USA's internal tree, and handling it "wrong" should be able to provoke a revolt by Anglo-Canadians.
 
These ideas all look nice. I will admit Hyper-Tolerant!Pelley made me chuckle a bit. That said he didn’t believe in UFOs until closer to the end of his life. I think he could justify his ideas as seeing a vision of Christ telling him what to do rather than seeing Christ and UFOs

However I don’t really like the Edward being Monbol idea. Feels a bit way too over the top. Even if he is much less of a fascist prick in contrast to otl I think that at most he would be like appalled at the rise of the Mosleyites and the far right and want to curb their influence and if the opposition succeeds he might be open to allowing a republic declared to prevent England from being dragged into war.
 
These ideas all look nice. I will admit Hyper-Tolerant!Pelley made me chuckle a bit. That said he didn’t believe in UFOs until closer to the end of his life. I think he could justify his ideas as seeing a vision of Christ telling him what to do rather than seeing Christ and UFOs
Yeah, I had a blast writing up William Dudley Pelley, Final Prophet of the Coming Race.

I based his ideology off of '30s Mexican racist propaganda about the alleged superior hybrid vigor of mestizos. XD Great stuff.
However I don’t really like the Edward being Monbol idea. Feels a bit way too over the top. Even if he is much less of a fascist prick in contrast to otl I think that at most he would be like appalled at the rise of the Mosleyites and the far right and want to curb their influence and if the opposition succeeds he might be open to allowing a republic declared to prevent England from being dragged into war.
TBF I don't think Mon-Bol Edward makes sense either, someone else thought that up. I just love the idea of this radically different world turning an OTL cryptofascist into a hardline commie.

Also Citizen Windsor is a phrase that makes me chuckle.
 
Anyways here are my ideas for a hypothetical TL-191 mod. It's something I've had an interest in doing as there's no Southern Victory mod on the market and doing a mod based on the TL-191 worldbuilding thread on AH would be interesting. I'm actually deciding between doing a TL-191 mod vs. doing my own original scenario wrt entering the HOI4 modding scene.

Anyways here's my idea, gonna be different from some of the takes present here.

The ideologies would be almost the same as Zoidberg's ideologies. Except instead of Actionism, I would have Ultranationalism be the furtherest right ideology and encompass anything from far-right militant reactionary beliefs to vanilla fascism(called corporatism in this universe) to Nazi esque racial supramacist beliefs(could be called "ethnic ultranationalism" or Freedomism--prefer the former). Actionism could be a specific subideology within So it would be something like this:

Marxism
Radical Socialism
Democratic Socialism
Social Democracy
Liberalism
Conservatism
Paternalism
Despotism
Paternal Autocracy
Ultranationalism

Now here are my suggestions for the nations themselves:

United States: I think they could choose to have Al Smith in power as a social democrat, leading to the canon route. However he could pass far reaching social reforms and placate the radical wing of the SPUSA and that could lead to a second constitutional convention to turn the US into demsoc or potentially radsoc or Marxism. A far left US would not work with the central powers. It might force a war much earlier on Featherston and then try to expel German and Entente influence all over the Americas. It would most likely spend it's end game fighting with Japan, Australia and New Zealand. Alternatively the US could go ultranat and elect Hyper-Tolerant!Pelley's Remembrance Front into office. Remembrance Front enforce military rule in Houston, Utah and Kentucky and really militarize the US. It can remain with the CP or form it's own block, but unlike far-left US won't be overtly hostile.
CSA: I honestly don't know what they would do apart from killing blacks and licking the damnyankees but they'd be much harder to play than OTL Nazi Germany. Maybe a Huey Long route too but I don't see too much content. They'd be really difficult to play so if you want to play as a evil ultranat nation for fun or are feeling edgy, ultranat Britain and France are your best bet. They might have a softer ultranat route under the redemption league and maybe a Paternalist Huey Long route but I'm not sure how that would go.
Great Britain: Edward VII is gonna be much more pleasant than OTL, but he won't be a monbol. I'll establish that he got traumatized during fighting in the first world war and he's appalled at the rising influence of the Silver Shirts. Britain's paths are either Paternalism under Churchill(the "canon" outcome) or they can fully cave to Mosley's ideas and go ultranat. This might lead to A LOT of colonial revolts that might have to be put down and potentially a socialist revolution. If Edward succeeds in undermining Mosley's influence he appoints a labour politician or a moderate conservative, and Britain reconciles with Germany and either remains neutral in the war or fights France and Russia.
Germany: Obviously dealing with the threat of the Entente. Could try to launch a preemptive strike against France depending on who's in power and maybe fund Finnish and other separatist rebels in Russia. I don't see how a Communist revolution would be likely in Germany unless we're doing something like Vanilla where every nation has access to all ideologies. However, Germany could go ultranat under WWI veteran Hermann Goering(Himmler is too much of a chicken farmer and won't get the prominance he did OTL IMO), who will try to wipe France off the map by mass balkanizing of the remains of France(he will be the most likely to build momentum towards a preemptive strike), Germanize Belgium and potentially the Netherlands and Denmark by force. Also could stab A-H in the back to acquire Austria and the Sudentenland.
France: They'd be focused on destroying Germany, take the Rhineland and balkanizing the remains, would seek to annex Belgium and potentially parts of the Netherlands. With regards to Austria-Hungary, they could fund ethnic separatists to destroy it from within. Would likely have no non-ultranat paths.
Russia: Would want to regain Poland+Baltics and Ukraine. Depending on how nasty the leadership is they could try to push for Eurasianism by annexing Manchuria, Mongolia and pushing into the Middle East. If Romania is under ultranat rule under the meathook boys, Russia can supply the Iron Guard with arms in a war with Austria as well as assist Serbian secessionists. It can work with the Entente or form it's own faction: The Slavic Brotherhood(very likely if it embraces Eurasianism). Iron Guard Romania or Serbian ultranationalists would be more likely to join the Slavic Brotherhood.
 
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Russia: Would want to regain Poland+Baltics and Ukraine. Depending on how nasty the leadership is they could try to push for Eurasianism by annexing Manchuria, Mongolia and pushing into the Middle East. If Romania is under ultranat rule under the meathook boys, Russia can supply the Iron Guard with arms in a war with Austria as well as assist Serbian secessionists. It can work with the Entente or form it's own faction: The Slavic Brotherhood(very likely if it embraces Eurasianism). Iron Guard Romania or Serbian ultranationalists would be more likely to join the Slavic Brotherhood.
Maybe they could have a Paternalistic path of generic old-school absolutists?
 
So, Russia would have PatAut and UltraNat paths here?
Yeah. I'm thinking an attempted assassination attempt on Kolchak by a neo-Bolshevik that leads to either Kolchak surviving and tightening his grip so Russia, or he dies and the absolutists that see the White Junta as weakening the powers the Tsar should have take over. Alternative Kolchak still dies, but even more extreme ultranats come to the fore that will implement Eurasianism(I'm thinking Black Hundreds but influenced by Eurasianism).
 
Yeah. I'm thinking an attempted assassination attempt on Kolchak by a neo-Bolshevik that leads to either Kolchak surviving and tightening his grip so Russia, or he dies and the absolutists that see the White Junta as weakening the powers the Tsar should have take over. Alternative Kolchak still dies, but even more extreme ultranats come to the fore that will implement Eurasianism(I'm thinking Black Hundreds but influenced by Eurasianism).
Maybe Russia could have a Paternalist path where Kolchak dies as well but a coalition of civilian conservatives (the Octobrists and the like) and a clique of relatively moderate officers led by Wrangel take power?
 
Maybe Russia could have a Paternalist path where Kolchak dies as well but a coalition of civilian conservatives (the Octobrists and the like) and a clique of relatively moderate officers led by Wrangel take power?
Yeah, they could potentially moderate to conservativism and end up as a constitutional monarchy through. They would oppose both French and Germany and would form their own faction(would not be the Slavic Brotherhood through, that's only formable by Pathaut or Ultranat Russia, and would have far saner members than Romanian nutcases with a thing for meathooks)
 
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