TL-191: Filling the Gaps

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  1. Nivek Resident Videogame Expert

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    If he wanted it, he could, he could be both Grant and Eisenhowher(well Ironwher is there too) ITTL, dunno if he wanted, he did was political but was mostly a career militaryman...is 50/50(i remember of irony the other thread use adenaer photo as old morell)
     
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  2. Zoidberg12 Well-Known Member

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    Alterwright, I've really been enjoying your posts on the reputations of pre-POD historical figures, as well as your post on German soldiers in the American West. I thought it was very interesting how the different biases amongst those in different nations have shaped the collective national views of different historical figures.

    Speaking of pre-POD historical figures, what are the portraits on the money of this world's United States and Confederate States? I think it the book it mentioned John Adams was on a US dollar coin, but what about the other units of USA and CSA currency?
     
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    Become president? Yes.

    He already is in my headcanon.

    Pull a Grant? No, he pulled an EISENHOWER.
     
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    Grant, Eisenhower, same difference. Both were great generals.
     
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  5. dmg86 Well-Known Member

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    Grant however was a poor president.
     
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    It's stated that the CSA has a "Stonewall", a gold coin worth $5 with a picture of Stonewall Jackson on it. I want to say that the 10 banknote had a portrait of Jefferson Davis on it.
     
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    For the North: Andrew Jackson, John Jay/Hamilton, Teddy, Custer and Irving Morrell.

    For the South: I can honesty see George Washington on the Confederate $1 and John 'Supervillian' C. Calhoun and Robert E. Lee with their own money too.
     
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    The 5 billion bank note had JEB Stuart
     
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    Oh, and I just found this.

    Thomas Brackett Reed is on the fifty-cent coin during the Great War. ( Hero of the Remembrance ideology who formed the American alliance with Haiti.)
     
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    JEJEJE, were come that title?
     
  11. Historyman 14 Well-Known Member

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    Have you even see John C. Calhoun? The man just cries out 'Supervillian'.
     
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    Here's my take on the Confederate Coins and Dollar Bills.

    The Confederate States Dollar (1861-1944)

    Coins

    1 Cent:
    Obverse: Robert E. Lee
    Reverse: Confederate Battle Flag Saltire

    5 Cents:
    Obverse: George Washington
    Reverse: Mt. Vernon

    10 Cents:
    Obverse: John C. Calhoun
    Reverse: The Star of the "Bonnie Blue Flag"

    Quarter Dollar:
    Obverse: Jefferson Davis
    Reverse: Grey House

    Half Dollar:
    Obverse: Albert Sidney Johnston
    Reverse: Torch and Olive Branch

    Dollar Coin:
    Obverse: P. G. T. Beauregard
    Reverse: Fasces with Laurel

    5 Dollar Coin:
    Obverse: Thomas "Stonewall" Jackson
    Reverse: Confederate Presidential Seal

    Banknotes ("Greybacks")

    1 Dollar:
    Obverse: John C. Calhoun
    Reverse: Seal of the Confederate States with the motto "Deo Vindice"

    5 Dollars:
    Obverse: Robert E. Lee
    Reverse: General Lee with the Army of the Northern Virginia at Camp Hill

    10 Dollars:
    Obverse: Jefferson Davis
    Reverse: The Grey House

    20 Dollars:
    Obverse: George Washington
    Reverse: Alabama State Capitol (First Seat of the Confederate Government)

    50 Dollars:
    Obverse: Judah P. Benjamin
    Reverse: The First Confederate Cabinet

    100 Dollars:
    Obverse: Christopher Memminger
    Reverse: Confederate States Capital

    Confederate Federal Reserve Banknotes

    500 Dollars:
    Obverse: Thomas Jefferson
    Reverse: A Map of the Confederate States of America

    1,000 Dollars:
    Obverse: James Longstreet
    Reverse: A scene of the Battle of Louisville in 1881

    5,000 Dollars:
    Obverse: Thomas "Stonewall" Jackson
    Reverse: The Confederate National Flag and Confederate Battle Flag

    10,000 Dollars:
    Obverse: John H. Reagan
    Reverse: The Founding of Jamestown in 1607
     
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    Here's my take on the Union Coins and Dollar Bills.

    The United States Dollar (1945)

    Coins

    1 Cent:
    Obverse: George Washington
    Reverse: Union Shield

    5 Cents:
    Obverse: Benjamin Franklin
    Reverse: The Liberty Bell

    10 Cents:
    Obverse: Lady Liberty in a Phrygian cap
    Reverse: Fasces and Laurel

    Quarter Dollar:
    Obverse: Daniel Webster
    Reverse: Seal of the United States

    Half Dollar:
    Obverse: Thomas Brackett Reed
    Reverse: Presidential Seal

    Dollar Coin:
    Obverse: Alfred Thayer Mahan
    Reverse: USS Connecticut

    Banknotes ("Greenbacks")

    1 Dollar:
    Obverse: George Washington
    Reverse: Seal of the United States with the motto "E pluribus unum"

    5 Dollars:
    Obverse: John Adams
    Reverse: Declaration of Independence by John Trumbull

    10 Dollars:
    Obverse: Andrew Jackson
    Reverse: The White House

    20 Dollars:
    Obverse: Alexander Hamilton
    Reverse: United States Treasury

    50 Dollars:
    Obverse: Theodore Roosevelt
    Reverse: United States Capitol

    100 Dollars:
    Obverse: Benjamin Franklin
    Reverse: Independence Hall

    United States Federal Reserve Banknotes

    500 Dollars:
    Obverse: John Marshall

    1,000 Dollars:
    Obverse: John Jay

    5,000 Dollars:
    Obverse: Thomas Brackett Reed

    10,000 Dollars:
    Obverse: Alfred Thayer Mahan
     
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  14. Alterwright "You were never even a player."

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    Yes. YES!! I love this. Bits of details like this are always the best. Plus, they're a good symbolic and visual way to really flesh out an alternate history world. Love this choices you made for these ones here.
     
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    You’re welcome!

    I’m planning on going into more detail with these currencies and writing about the history of the designs of the different currencies. For example, George Washington’s profile wasn’t on the penny until 1912, in honor of his 280th birthday. Before that, the design of the penny was the Indian Head Penny, which IOTL was replaced by the Abraham Lincoln Penny in 1909.
     
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    Well done Zoidberg! I honesty really like the lists and I can see them very much within the TL-191.

    However, there is one issue. George Washington on Union money. I don't think his image would have recover enough in the North for it. Maybe replace him with say...Martin Van Buren, John Quincy, or even James Polk.

    Same for James Madison. (One of the few who can rival Blaine in bad reputation. )
     
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    Thanks for the feedback.

    I think George Washington, as the Father of the Country, would still be on US money. However, I agree with you on James Madison, so I replaced him with John Jay.
     
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    It still be...well, awkward to say the least on the matter of Washington for both North and South, but true.
     
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  20. Alterwright "You were never even a player."

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    I guess it all depends on how the North post Second Mexican War chooses to remember him. Judging by the remarks of certain characters in the series, I'd say they're not too fond of Washington.