TL-191: Filling the Gaps

ZGradt

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Clarence Potter was (reluctantly) acquitted in the books, and in my Saul Goldman post I had Partridge be found not guilty because of his exceptionally limited role in the war and the Destruction. He was put under house arrest for ~20 years, where he wrote his memoirs The Devil's Deputy.

A war of aggression charge seems very unlikely at the Richmond Trials. (Potter would certainly have been convicted of such an offense if the US was utilizing that particular charge.) It's also extremely unlikely the US would punish Nimitz for unrestricted submarine warfare since the US and Germany both undoubtedly employed unrestricted submarine warfare themselves in the First and Second Great Wars.

Also initially Patton was not in Command of the Army of Kentucky during operation Balckbeard. He was only in command of their barrel forces. I kind of imagined the Armor of Kentucky had an armored Corp. like the Germans during the invasion of France.

I'm curious about why Nimitz received a death sentence? He was pretty much accused of the thing that Grand Admiral Karl Donitz was during the Nuremberg trials and he only received 10 years in prison.

While I do have some reservations about the verdict in the case of Admiral Nimitz and General Patton - who were soldiers fighting a conventional War, rather than the stormtroopers of Abomination so if Clarence Potter can get away with Nuking Philadelphia I doubt these two are due for the chopping block - I would like to say that otherwise this seems a very reasonable take on things Zgradt and well put-together to boot.:)

Whoopsies. :eek:

I knew I was comparing Nimitz to Donitz; looking back now I mixed up the sentences. Now that I'm awake and less sleep deprived, let me re-edit the article to better reflect the parallelisms.
 

ZGradt

Banned
Fick's obviously an analogue of Wilhelm Frick, but I don't know about about the others.

Nimitz is the analogue to Karl Dönitz, head of the Kriegsmarine; Chapman is Eduard Strauch, Kommandant of the Maly Trostenets extermination camp; Dickinson is Wilhelm Kietel, de facto defense minister of Nazi Germany.



EDIT: BTW, I've looked through past pages and realized there a lot more people that could be prosecuted. Looking through the Doctor Trials, Hostages Trials, Lawers Trials, Collaborator Trials, and etc, there's plenty of people who can be tried. I just need names really. I think one of you guys did an article on a collaborationist government in Ohio, if one of guys can point me to the article that would be great.

I'm thinking also that there would be collborationist governments in Indiana, Illinois and Maryland, so some of those guys could be tried for treason against the US. Looking through the Second incarnation of the Ku Klux Klan, there are plenty of American collaborators that could work with the Freedom Party occupiers.

Also, sorry I still killed off Patton. I wanted to make a point though that just because he's famous OTL does not mean he would be spared TTL. I'm sure he could've had a great article though.
 
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Nimitz is the analogue to Karl Dönitz, head of the Kriegsmarine; Chapman is Eduard Strauch, Kommandant of the Maly Trostenets extermination camp; Dickinson is Wilhelm Kietel, de facto defense minister of Nazi Germany.



EDIT: BTW, I've looked through past pages and realized there a lot more people that could be prosecuted. Looking through the Doctor Trials, Hostages Trials, Lawers Trials, Collaborator Trials, and etc, there's plenty of people who can be tried. I just need names really. I think one of you guys did an article on a collaborationist government in Ohio, if one of guys can point me to the article that would be great.

I'm thinking also that there would be collborationist governments in Indiana, Illinois and Maryland, so some of those guys could be tried for treason against the US. Looking through the Second incarnation of the Ku Klux Klan, there are plenty of American collaborators that could work with the Freedom Party occupiers.

Also, sorry I still killed off Patton. I wanted to make a point though that just because he's famous OTL does not mean he would be spared TTL. I'm sure he could've had a great article though.

Interesting. I might see if I can suggest a "Hostages Trial" be worked into "The Presbyterian Butcher".
 

Blue Moon

Banned
Nimitz is the analogue to Karl Dönitz, head of the Kriegsmarine; Chapman is Eduard Strauch, Kommandant of the Maly Trostenets extermination camp; Dickinson is Wilhelm Kietel, de facto defense minister of Nazi Germany.



EDIT: BTW, I've looked through past pages and realized there a lot more people that could be prosecuted. Looking through the Doctor Trials, Hostages Trials, Lawers Trials, Collaborator Trials, and etc, there's plenty of people who can be tried. I just need names really. I think one of you guys did an article on a collaborationist government in Ohio, if one of guys can point me to the article that would be great.

I'm thinking also that there would be collborationist governments in Indiana, Illinois and Maryland, so some of those guys could be tried for treason against the US. Looking through the Second incarnation of the Ku Klux Klan, there are plenty of American collaborators that could work with the Freedom Party occupiers.

Also, sorry I still killed off Patton. I wanted to make a point though that just because he's famous OTL does not mean he would be spared TTL. I'm sure he could've had a great article though.
Agreed. I hope to see more about this topic :)
 
Richmond Trials

From October 1, 1944 to November 20, 1945[1] over 6,000 Freedomites, ex-Confederate military, politicians, and civilians would be tried under four rounds of military tribunals; many Americans nowadays are only required in history classes to know the "Richmond Ten", which included the trials of Brigadier General Clarence Potter, Department of Communication Director Saul Goldman, Confederate Attorney General Ferdinand Koening, and Brigade Leader and Head Commandant of Camps Determination and Humble Jefferson Davis Pinkard. While most know those four men by heart, six more men were tried and highly publicized, nicknaming these men the "Richmond Ten"[2] as they were the most high-profile tribunals. Among the remaining Richmond Ten were the following:

The war crimes trials for the big shots were held in Philadelphia.

Pinkard was tried and executed in Houston.

Confederate States of America Department of the Interior Director William Fick[5]: Featherston's appointed Director of the Department of the Interior, Fick was charged with planning and procuring funds for the building of Devastation death camps with the knowledge and intent to commit 'crimes against humanity.' He was also charged for assisting in the Freedom Party's pursuit of political opponents with the intention of silencing them. Fick denied these charges, but was found guilty after "overwhelming evidence" was presented in the form of a ledger that detailed the amounts of Confederate dollars allocated to build these camps including but not limited to: Determination, Humble, Freedom, and Dependable. Fick was sentenced to death and was hanged on April 29, 1945.

That sort of stuff doesn't fall within the purview of the Interior Secretary, who oversees things like the national parks system, geological surveys, land management, etc. That would've been Ferd Koenig's shtick. Notice I said "Ferd Koenig" and not "the Justice Department."


Freedom Party Chief Assault Band Leader Ben Chapman[7]: Chapman was in charge of delivering political opponents and "disloyal Confederates" during Featherston's purges. During the Second Great War, he was in charge of running Camp Davis[8], just 20 miles north of Birmingham, Alabama. Chapman was charged and convicted of murder of several Whig politicians, as well as his involvement in the Devastation. Chapman was hanged to death on April 23, 1945.

If he was being tried for running one of the camps, he would've had a local trial like Pinkard.

Confederate States of America Department of the Navy Director Charles Wilson Nimitz

Is Nimitz still a naval officer in this war? He probably shouldn't be running a civilian job then.

Confederate States of America Department of War Director
Confederate States of America Department of the Navy Director
Confederate States of America Department of the Interior Director

I don't know what a War Director or an Interior Director is. I do know that we have similar positions labeled "Secretary."

Freedom Party Representative George Herman Mahon: Mahon was Representative of the 2nd Congressional District of Houston. He called for the plebiscites of Houston, Sequoyah, and Kentucky to vote on the issue of reunification with the Confederate States. The referendum in his state succeeded and he was reassigned to the 19th Congressional District of Texas. When the Republic of Texas declared independence, Mahon along with Pinkard and others were arrested and brought to Richmond for trial. Mahon was charged with conspiracy to commit treason against the US as well as willful ignorance of the Devastation happening in Camps Determination and Humble. Mahon was found guilty and was sentenced to death. Mahon's sentence was by firing squad rather than hanging as he was convicted of the crime of treason. And unlike the standard procedure of only one of the soldiers having live ammo for the execution, all 6 members of the squad were given live ammunition. Mahon was killed by firing squad on May 1, 1945.

Why does treason get someone the firing squad, which is traditionally the penalty for military offenses?

I would also point out that AFAIK no one in the US has ever been executed for treason, but I'll admit this ATL US is a harsher, more vengeful polity.

Freedom Party Senator James Strom Thurmond

Strom was killed in the same air raid as Anne Colleton.

Confederate States of America Secretary of State George Herbert Walker: Walker was an American born in St. Louis, Missouri, but his family moved to Little Rock, Arkansas following the Confederates' victory in the Second Mexican War. One of the few Whigs to have survived Featherston's purges, Walker professed loyalty to the Freedom Party but like Potter was only serving the Confederacy to the best of his ability. Walker was charged with conspiracy to commit 'crimes against humanity' in regards to his involvement in reporting to Featherston about the movements and shipments of African-Americans and POWs to Confederate prisoner and death camps. Walker pleaded guilty for his role in the Devastation in exchange for testimony against other Confederate officials, just like Nimitz. Walker's final sentence was 4 years in military prison followed by a lifetime sentence of house arrest in his birth city of St. Louis, Missouri.

Why would the Secretary of State, which in this country heads foreign affairs, know anything about secret internal happenings like train shipments? Especially when this particular secretary is not really on Featherston's good side?
 

ZGradt

Banned
The war crimes trials for the big shots were held in Philadelphia.

Pinkard was tried and executed in Houston.

See, I thought they were tried in different places, but I can't remember squat after I finished IATD.

That sort of stuff doesn't fall within the purview of the Interior Secretary, who oversees things like the national parks system, geological surveys, land management, etc. That would've been Ferd Koenig's shtick. Notice I said "Ferd Koenig" and not "the Justice Department."

Duly noted. Who do you suggest? Other than Vern Green and Mercer Scott that Kiryan noted.

If he was being tried for running one of the camps, he would've had a local trial like Pinkard.

Okay, will do that.

Is Nimitz still a naval officer in this war? He probably shouldn't be running a civilian job then.

Well, unless Nimitz is Admiral of a submarine squadron, I kind of need a Karl Donitz analogue.

I don't know what a War Director or an Interior Director is. I do know that we have similar positions labeled "Secretary."

I was going to just make them Secretary of War, the Navy, but then I saw that Saul Goldman was Director of Communications. I guess the Department of Communications i
the special snowflake.

Why does treason get someone the firing squad, which is traditionally the penalty for military offenses?

I would also point out that AFAIK no one in the US has ever been executed for treason, but I'll admit this ATL US is a harsher, more vengeful polity.

I was under the impression that TTL's US more militaristic society means executions. Although I can switch the method of death to hanging.

Strom was killed in the same air raid as Anne Colleton.

He was? Alright, he can go off the list then.

Why would the Secretary of State, which in this country heads foreign affairs, know anything about secret internal happenings like train shipments? Especially when this particular secretary is not really on Featherston's good side?

Dunno actually, other than for parallelisms.

Thanks for pointing those out, Trotsky. If you have any suggestions, I'd really appreciate it.
 
Duly noted. Who do you suggest? Other than Vern Green and Mercer Scott that Kiryan noted.

Two mid-ranking personnel officers no one but Pinkard's heard of for Secretary of the Interior? Not a chance in anyone's hell.

Well, unless Nimitz is Admiral of a submarine squadron, I kind of need a Karl Donitz analogue.

No, you don't necessarily kind of need one. And again, I stress that in the USA/CSA civilians oversee the military.

I was going to just make them Secretary of War, the Navy, but then I saw that Saul Goldman was Director of Communications. I guess the Department of Communications

The head of the Justice Department is Attorney General. Doesn't mean the other Cabinet heads are attorneys or generals.

I was under the impression that TTL's US more militaristic society means executions. Although I can switch the method of death to hanging.

It follows the Kaiserreich's policies, at least to an extent. I would find it safe to assume it would find an excuse under the vague definition of "crimes against humanity" to execute one of its own politicians, I just think it would do so as a criminal, not a military offense. Meaning the noose (not the electric chair, for some reason) for criminals, not the firing squad for military offenders.

Dunno actually, other than for parallelisms.

He's no Ribbentrop. Not everything in TL-191 needs a direct parallel. As I said before, you don't need a Doenitz stand-in, or one for his predecessor Raeder.
 
Two mid-ranking personnel officers no one but Pinkard's heard of for Secretary of the Interior? Not a chance in anyone's hell.

Huh! I just wanted to know why they would not be considered for the Richmond 10. I mean, Pinkard may have been the number 1 when it came to extermination, but these two should cut it at least close.
 
ZGradt, I just wanted to say that I am continuing to enjoy the varying incarnations of this Article (I'm particularly fond of your conclusion to Patton's career, which seems entirely befitting the Epic American Tragedy that is Timeline-191) and that you may find it comforting to know that the only reason Trotsky can offer such ruthlessly comprehensive critique of our articles is that he enjoys them so much he cannot help but take an interest in making them EVEN BETTER.

That's what I like to imagine anyway, because otherwise I'd have to believe that THIS Trotsky is one determined to wield the Ice-pick rather than take that point!;)


https://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showpost.php?p=11041577&postcount=1423

^Zgradt, I actually posted my own take on the Confederate George Herbert Walker about twenty pages or so ago and I thought you might be interested in taking a look at it; it isn't a finalised version by any means, so I'd appreciate your thoughts on how we might bring our two conceptions of the character a little closer together.:)^
 
You know it has just occurred to me to wonder how The Treaty of Arlington affected the Confederate 'Right to Keep and Bear Arms' - would the Treaty essentially enforce tighter gun control laws on the Civilian population in the South, as well as pull the teeth of the Confederate Army?

Having asked that question, here's another - would the ongoing rivalry between the Confederacy and the United States have resulted in tighter gun control or in a greater ease of access to military-grade firepower?
 

bguy

Donor
That sort of stuff doesn't fall within the purview of the Interior Secretary, who oversees things like the national parks system, geological surveys, land management, etc. That would've been Ferd Koenig's shtick. Notice I said "Ferd Koenig" and not "the Justice Department."

I seem to recall there was a passing mention in the novels to the US Secretary of the Interior having a role in setting US occupation policy.

Is Nimitz still a naval officer in this war? He probably shouldn't be running a civilian job then.

Maybe Carl Vinson as Featherston's Secretary of the Navy? OTL he was a staunch segregationist, so he should fit in pretty well with the Freedom Party. And whoever the Confederate Secretary of the Navy is will most likely be sentenced to death. Not so much for what the miniscule Confederate Navy itself did, but for the Confederate Marine Corps' involvement in the occupation of Haiti.

I don't know what a War Director or an Interior Director is. I do know that we have similar positions labeled "Secretary."

Agreed. I don't see any reason why Featherston would change the Cabinet names. (The Director of Communications is different because that isn't a Cabinet department and is probably something that Featherston himself just created.)

Why does treason get someone the firing squad, which is traditionally the penalty for military offenses?

It's also pretty unlikely that the Socialists would let Mahon be charged with a crime for anything he advocated from the floor of the Congress. (Anyone who voted for the Richmond Agreement is not going to want to see that particular precedent established.)


As for some other possible Richmond 10 defendants:

Secretary of the Treasury (sitting in the Hjalmar Schacht/Walther Funk slot). Maybe Jesse Jones. He was a prominent Southern financier OTL, and as a self-made man would be acceptable to Featherston.

Director of Production (sitting in the Albert Speer slot): James Byrnes. Craigo, in his George Marshall entry, had previously listed James Byrnes as the Confederate Secretary of War. Thus if we go with Mr. Dickinson being given that position in 1940, then it seems most likely that Byrnes was simply purged around that time. (Maybe Featherston thought Byrnes had been too close to Wily Knight.) However, another possibility could be that Featherston felt he needed someone to manage Confederate industry, and thus moved Byrnes out of the SecWar position to take on this newly created position. (Featherston obviously would not want the same person being in charge of both the Confederate military and its industrial economy as that would be too much power for a single person.)

Lieutenant General Hank Coomer, commander of the Army of Northern Virginia. Coomer is explicitly mentioned to be a long time Freedom Party man, so it is pretty likely forces under his command would have committed some major atrocities.

There's also the Confederate general identified only as "Willard" who took over the Confederate General Staff after Forrest. He would presumably be the Keitel/Jodl equivalent at the proceedings.

Tiro said:
You know it has just occurred to me to wonder how The Treaty of Arlington affected the Confederate 'Right to Keep and Bear Arms' - would the Treaty essentially enforce tighter gun control laws on the Civilian population in the South, as well as pull the teeth of the Confederate Army?

Given how many Confederate citizens we see running around armed after the war, I doubt any gun control requirements were included within the treaty. (Practically speaking there would be no way to enforce such a term without a very large US occupation army throughout the CSA.)
 

ZGradt

Banned
No, you don't necessarily kind of need one. And again, I stress that in the USA/CSA civilians oversee the military.

The head of the Justice Department is Attorney General. Doesn't mean the other Cabinet heads are attorneys or generals.

It follows the Kaiserreich's policies, at least to an extent. I would find it safe to assume it would find an excuse under the vague definition of "crimes against humanity" to execute one of its own politicians, I just think it would do so as a criminal, not a military offense. Meaning the noose (not the electric chair, for some reason) for criminals, not the firing squad for military offenders.

He's no Ribbentrop. Not everything in TL-191 needs a direct parallel. As I said before, you don't need a Doenitz stand-in, or one for his predecessor Raeder.

Thank you for your responses, I appreciate it greatly. :)

Huh! I just wanted to know why they would not be considered for the Richmond 10. I mean, Pinkard may have been the number 1 when it came to extermination, but these two should cut it at least close.

What Trotsky means is that those guys would be tried in Houston, Texas (or the state, so Lubbock). Trostky mentioned that Pinkard was tried and had his sentence carried out there, no point in taking them to Philadelphia just to execute them there.

Basically, I'm going to have to re-write the Richmond Ten again. It won't be too difficult or time-consuming when I get to use a computer.

ZGradt, I just wanted to say that I am continuing to enjoy the varying incarnations of this Article (I'm particularly fond of your conclusion to Patton's career, which seems entirely befitting the Epic American Tragedy that is Timeline-191) and that you may find it comforting to know that the only reason Trotsky can offer such ruthlessly comprehensive critique of our articles is that he enjoys them so much he cannot help but take an interest in making them EVEN BETTER.

That's what I like to imagine anyway, because otherwise I'd have to believe that THIS Trotsky is one determined to wield the Ice-pick rather than take that point!;)


https://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showpost.php?p=11041577&postcount=1423

^Zgradt, I actually posted my own take on the Confederate George Herbert Walker about twenty pages or so ago and I thought you might be interested in taking a look at it; it isn't a finalised version by any means, so I'd appreciate your thoughts on how we might bring our two conceptions of the character a little closer together.:)^

No worries, Tiro. I'm well aware Trostky wants my articles to improve and I'm not offended in the slightest.

So, going by your article Walker as SecOfState will be in charge of maintaining the wartime alliance with its allies, the most important being the UK. I'll have to look a bit more to find what kind of charges he could be given.
 
I was thinking (probably because Speer was mentioned), do you think Featherston would have any interest in a Welthauptstadt Germania type of project, ie. rebuilding the capital city with grandiose governmental buildings?
 
I was thinking (probably because Speer was mentioned), do you think Featherston would have any interest in a Welthauptstadt Germania type of project, ie. rebuilding the capital city with grandiose governmental buildings?

I think not or nothing that megalomaniac, that was own hitler frustrated artist ambition being funneled, the snake was more plain and grounded to earth but who knows, maybe some war memorial if the war was victoroius?
 
I tend to agree with Nivek; The Snake is more of a monomaniac than a megalomaniac and seems more concerned with settling scores than building a 'Thousand-Year Reich' or anything similarly grandiose; I imagine that other members of his Administration might have more … Wagner ambitions.

Perhaps Saul Goldman comes up with some colourful Fantasies of The Future Confederacy to help keep the proletariat distracted from the brutalities of the Present (although I imagine they would be more Epcot than anything else).
 
Huh! I just wanted to know why they would not be considered for the Richmond 10. I mean, Pinkard may have been the number 1 when it came to extermination, but these two should cut it at least close.

Philadelphia. The big shots were tried in Philadelphia, in a boring non-descript office building, like that place in Office Space, not from from the War Department.

And Scott and Green were tried, and hanged. I think Scott was promoted to Pinkard's spot when the latter went west. Their trials went right alongside Jeff's.

You know it has just occurred to me to wonder how The Treaty of Arlington affected the Confederate 'Right to Keep and Bear Arms' - would the Treaty essentially enforce tighter gun control laws on the Civilian population in the South, as well as pull the teeth of the Confederate Army?

Having asked that question, here's another - would the ongoing rivalry between the Confederacy and the United States have resulted in tighter gun control or in a greater ease of access to military-grade firepower?

Featherston and Pinkard turned in only military-issued weapons; Jake traveled back to Richmond carrying his personal firearm.

I don't think the USA, at least after the first war was interested in enforcing a policy dictating every single firearm in the CSA down to shotguns and Civil War-era antiques hoisted over family fireplaces.

I seem to recall there was a passing mention in the novels to the US Secretary of the Interior having a role in setting US occupation policy.

They used the Interior Secretary - Harry Hopkins - to negotiate a ceasefire with the Mormons. Don't know why they used him and not someone from the War Department or the White House, other than recognition that Hopkins was historically used as the president's envoy.

Maybe Carl Vinson as Featherston's Secretary of the Navy? OTL he was a staunch segregationist, so he should fit in pretty well with the Freedom Party. And whoever the Confederate Secretary of the Navy is will most likely be sentenced to death. Not so much for what the miniscule Confederate Navy itself did, but for the Confederate Marine Corps' involvement in the occupation of Haiti.

I guess. Seems a waste to use his talent at something like the Confederate Navy, but he'd probably be equally wasted as Speaker or House Whip in the Freedom-controlled Congress.

It's also pretty unlikely that the Socialists would let Mahon be charged with a crime for anything he advocated from the floor of the Congress. (Anyone who voted for the Richmond Agreement is not going to want to see that particular precedent established.)

If the United States wanted a Confederate dead, they'd charge him with crimes against humanity and go from there. No need to go into precarious precedent-setting in Congress.

As for some other possible Richmond 10 defendants:

Lieutenant General Hank Coomer, commander of the Army of Northern Virginia. Coomer is explicitly mentioned to be a long time Freedom Party man, so it is pretty likely forces under his command would have committed some major atrocities.

Against...who?

There's also the Confederate general identified only as "Willard" who took over the Confederate General Staff after Forrest. He would presumably be the Keitel/Jodl equivalent at the proceedings.

The Keitel/Jodl equivalent? Keitel and Jodl were convicted and hanged because of various illegal orders they had put their signatures to. Nobody's gonna waste their time trying a man whose only mention in history books was he broke a leg falling off an airplane.

So, going by your article Walker as SecOfState will be in charge of maintaining the wartime alliance with its allies, the most important being the UK. I'll have to look a bit more to find what kind of charges he could be given.

I think he handled diplomacy the way Cordell Hull handled diplomacy for Franklin Roosevelt: he did the boring shit the boss couldn't be bothered to do, like dealing with Mexico. A lot of times Jake did his own stuff, like his personally meeting with Al Smith, or sending personal messages to Churchill about riling up Canada, or else had a personal troubleshooter like Anne Colleton ala Jake's Harry Hopkins do it for him because he didn't trust Whig diplomats, Herbert Walker probably being one of them.

I was thinking (probably because Speer was mentioned), do you think Featherston would have any interest in a Welthauptstadt Germania type of project, ie. rebuilding the capital city with grandiose governmental buildings?

No, that's totally un-Snake.
 

bguy

Donor
They used the Interior Secretary - Harry Hopkins - to negotiate a ceasefire with the Mormons. Don't know why they used him and not someone from the War Department or the White House, other than recognition that Hopkins was historically used as the president's envoy.

Found the reference I was looking for: Page 198 of The Victorious Opposition:

President Smith is conferring with the Secretary of War and the Secretary of the Interior about the present situation in Kentucky, the story continued. A statement from Philadelphia is expected within the next few days.

Thus it really sounds like the US Department of the Interior has some domestic security responsibilities in TL-191.

Against...who?

U.S. prisoners maybe. (Especially once African-Americans start serving in the US Army.) It would be easy to see a Freedom Party stooge like Coomer carrying out a Fort Pillow massacre equivalent.

The Keitel/Jodl equivalent? Keitel and Jodl were convicted and hanged because of various illegal orders they had put their signatures to. Nobody's gonna waste their time trying a man whose only mention in history books was he broke a leg falling off an airplane.

Well if the US is bothering to try Don Partridge...

I think he handled diplomacy the way Cordell Hull handled diplomacy for Franklin Roosevelt: he did the boring shit the boss couldn't be bothered to do, like dealing with Mexico. A lot of times Jake did his own stuff, like his personally meeting with Al Smith, or sending personal messages to Churchill about riling up Canada, or else had a personal troubleshooter like Anne Colleton ala Jake's Harry Hopkins do it for him because he didn't trust Whig diplomats, Herbert Walker probably being one of them.

That sounds about right. Theoretically then Walker could be linked to the Destruction through his diplomatic efforts with Mexico. (His diplomacy helped the Confederates obtain the Mexican troops they used to put down the black uprisings, which was necessary to carry out the Destruction.) However, per Craigo's canon, the US didn't topple Francisco Jose at the conclusion of the SGW. That seems to indicate that the US is not holding Mexico complicit as a party to the Destruction, which in turn makes it rather difficult for the US government to justify prosecuting Walker for his role in procuring Mexican troops.
 
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