TL-191: Featherston's Finest - Uniforms, Weapons, and Vehicles of the CSA and Freedom Party

I originally redrew the turret, made it a little bigger and added an 88mm gun and a stowage bin to the rear. These changes made the turret look less Panther-ish and that seemed perfect for a CSA barrel. The 17 Pdr. I believe was the biggest gun the British mounted in a tank.

I like the name the Timber-Wolf and I would say this tank is more or less TTL's Panther, only the armor would be a little lighter but this would also make the tank a little more nimble and faster.
So good handling, good gun, decent armor and a cool name. :cool:

Offset by production numbers not great enough to turn the tide of the war, coupled with loyal yet ill-trained crew members. Or, by contrast, very experienced crew members.

Ah, so it would be on par with the Panther then! Sounds reasonable. This thing looks like it would be the bane of the US tanks, but not encountered enough by them to make a real difference. That's how I see it anyway. If Allied crew had "Tiger phobia" in France, then US crew in TL-191 would have "Timber-Wolf chills" or something. Would be cool to see a frontal view of the tank as well, if you can manage it.
 
Offset by production numbers not great enough to turn the tide of the war, coupled with loyal yet ill-trained crew members. Or, by contrast, very experienced crew members.

Ah, so it would be on par with the Panther then! Sounds reasonable. This thing looks like it would be the bane of the US tanks, but not encountered enough by them to make a real difference. That's how I see it anyway. If Allied crew had "Tiger phobia" in France, then US crew in TL-191 would have "Timber-Wolf chills" or something. Would be cool to see a frontal view of the tank as well, if you can manage it.
I'm afraid I don't a front view pic of the Tas, its a little known tank so not a lot of pics of it out there, at least not line drawings.
I agree with your assessment of the Timber-Wolf, a tough tank but not enough to stem the the tide, the Union would probably be able to out manufacture the CSA by about five to one I've read in some threads here on AH.

Great! Much better looking receiver here, looks like it was extended a bit too!
Thanks and yeah I did extend it a bit too. Good eye.
 
Found a small pic of the Tas 44 with a front and rear view, its small though but here it is slightly reworked to resemble the pic I did earlier.

Tas-44-Tosh.jpg


I also found this pic, I'm not sure if this a real wartime design or someone else work but for the record, I didn't make this but I think its pretty cool.
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I come a little late to the Christening party, but your excellent work here has inspired me to add my own ideas into the mix, oh fellow enthusiasts!:biggrin:

- Firstly, I would like to thank you good fellows for setting loose a new wave of SOUTHERN VICTORY discussion (special thanks to cortz#9 for these excellent illustrations - how DO you make up those firearms pictures, might one please ask?).


- Secondly, I would like to say that one enjoys the idea of the Confederates using a canine naming theme for their Armoured Fighting vehicles (though one quibbles a little over names like "Dingo" and "Jackal" which seem a little cosmopolitan for the rather backwards/inwards-looking Confederacy); I would, however, like to suggest that names such as "Bird Dog" be reserved for aircraft rather than Armoured Fighting Vehicles (in fact one might go further and suggest that names which tie into the themes evoked by known aircraft - like the Mule, Gator & Hound Dog - be reserved for Aircraft, if only to keep things intuitive*).

*For example, mention a Hound Dog fighter but then go on to mention a "Bulldog" without describing it and reader will almost certainly think "Plane" rather than "Ground Pounder."


-Thirdly, I was thinking a bit on possible naming conventions for Southern Armour and it struck me that a plausible theme would be "Archetypical Soldiers" (as opposed to the famous individual soldiers after whom the US would appear to have named their armoured types** since Jake Featherston HATES the "Great Names" of the Confederacy - or at least what the likes of JEB Stuart Junior have been allowed to achieve because of them - almost as much as he does Confederate Coloureds), suggesting names like "Cavalier" "Dragoon" "Rifleman" "Volunteer" or "Stalwart" (it seems very easy to imagine the Stalwart being the first barrel designed under the aegis of the Featherston Administration and equally easy to imagine the "Cavalier" being built under a Whig Administration - this may well be a name retroactively applied to the tanks constructed in Mexico between the Wars, possibly known locally as "Caballero").

**Names like "Pershing" and "Roosevelt" seem plausible additions to the "Custer" Model.


-Fourthly (and not actually concerned with names), I wanted to suggest the idea that the Southern Arms Industry is well-funded but suffers from the constraints imposed by the industrial base of a still largely agrarian nation (and one which appears to be able to breed individual geniuses, but not foster a steady supply of them to quite the same degree as a more progressive nation - consider that most of the Best Confederate Brains we see were educated "Up North" at places like Harvard); I'd suggest that many Confederate designs have a strong element of "Individual Excellence" (a visible hint that they're most put together according to the ideas & design sense of a single, overworked Genius) and also that they always look a little rough-around-the-edges, as if there's never quite enough time for the small pool of Southern Experts to 'work up' a design until its 100% before they're asked to produce the next one, especially after the Second Great War starts, and never quite enough skilled labourers for every war machine to enjoy exactly the same loving care.

I would also like to suggest that a strong element of improvisation be the mark of Confederate States design; there's never quite enough skilled labour, seldom enough time and designs tend to be pulled together from an astonishing variety of inspirations (native, Entente and even Yankee) because Industrial Espionage or Licensed Designs are more economical than expecting the South's relatively small pool of talent to think of everything, but what the Confederate States builds WORKS ... mostly.


- Finally, I would like to note that one pictures the North as an Industrial Colossus and the South as an industrial middleweight trying to provide a heavyweight punch; quite frankly the North can afford to experiment with a variety of designs (some of them wildly different and a few outright bangers) because they need never worry about being out-produced by the South (because the Northern Industrial base is SO MUCH BIGGER), so they can afford to deal with a number of companies and prioritise the "lowest bidder" over minor niceties of design.

The South, by contrast, has to get things RIGHT (or at least "Good Enough") at the design stage because the Confederacy can't afford to spare the time to fix problems on the production floor (much less maintain 'lemons' in the fighting line); they need tanks that WORK and they need to build them as quickly as possible in order to keep up with the Yankees. This probably leads to long production runs of known quantities - tanks that have proven their reliability again and again - as well as a good deal of variations on a theme (instead of designing an entirely new tank and wasting time on restructuring everything in the Factory, they prefer to build a variation on an older tank so that much the same production lines can be used).


One hopes that I have been able to convey my ideas without waffling them up - please let me know if any points require clarification!
 
Would the Sarge try out or even develop a project like a Landschlachtschiff - something akin to OTL Nazi German super-size tanks (Maus or Ratte)?

I'd be quite surprised if he did, actually - though subordinate members of his Administration may be more ambitious - since Featherston appears to have focussed on 'known quantities' produced in large quantities over "Wonder Weapons" (with the exception of the Superbomb).
 
I come a little late to the Christening party, but your excellent work here has inspired me to add my own ideas into the mix, oh fellow enthusiasts!:biggrin:

- Firstly, I would like to thank you good fellows for setting loose a new wave of SOUTHERN VICTORY discussion (special thanks to cortz#9 for these excellent illustrations - how DO you make up those firearms pictures, might one please ask?).


- Secondly, I would like to say that one enjoys the idea of the Confederates using a canine naming theme for their Armoured Fighting vehicles (though one quibbles a little over names like "Dingo" and "Jackal" which seem a little cosmopolitan for the rather backwards/inwards-looking Confederacy); I would, however, like to suggest that names such as "Bird Dog" be reserved for aircraft rather than Armoured Fighting Vehicles (in fact one might go further and suggest that names which tie into the themes evoked by known aircraft - like the Mule, Gator & Hound Dog - be reserved for Aircraft, if only to keep things intuitive*).

*For example, mention a Hound Dog fighter but then go on to mention a "Bulldog" without describing it and reader will almost certainly think "Plane" rather than "Ground Pounder."


-Thirdly, I was thinking a bit on possible naming conventions for Southern Armour and it struck me that a plausible theme would be "Archetypical Soldiers" (as opposed to the famous individual soldiers after whom the US would appear to have named their armoured types** since Jake Featherston HATES the "Great Names" of the Confederacy - or at least what the likes of JEB Stuart Junior have been allowed to achieve because of them - almost as much as he does Confederate Coloureds), suggesting names like "Cavalier" "Dragoon" "Rifleman" "Volunteer" or "Stalwart" (it seems very easy to imagine the Stalwart being the first barrel designed under the aegis of the Featherston Administration and equally easy to imagine the "Cavalier" being built under a Whig Administration - this may well be a name retroactively applied to the tanks constructed in Mexico between the Wars, possibly known locally as "Caballero").

**Names like "Pershing" and "Roosevelt" seem plausible additions to the "Custer" Model.


-Fourthly (and not actually concerned with names), I wanted to suggest the idea that the Southern Arms Industry is well-funded but suffers from the constraints imposed by the industrial base of a still largely agrarian nation (and one which appears to be able to breed individual geniuses, but not foster a steady supply of them to quite the same degree as a more progressive nation - consider that most of the Best Confederate Brains we see were educated "Up North" at places like Harvard); I'd suggest that many Confederate designs have a strong element of "Individual Excellence" (a visible hint that they're most put together according to the ideas & design sense of a single, overworked Genius) and also that they always look a little rough-around-the-edges, as if there's never quite enough time for the small pool of Southern Experts to 'work up' a design until its 100% before they're asked to produce the next one, especially after the Second Great War starts, and never quite enough skilled labourers for every war machine to enjoy exactly the same loving care.

I would also like to suggest that a strong element of improvisation be the mark of Confederate States design; there's never quite enough skilled labour, seldom enough time and designs tend to be pulled together from an astonishing variety of inspirations (native, Entente and even Yankee) because Industrial Espionage or Licensed Designs are more economical than expecting the South's relatively small pool of talent to think of everything, but what the Confederate States builds WORKS ... mostly.


- Finally, I would like to note that one pictures the North as an Industrial Colossus and the South as an industrial middleweight trying to provide a heavyweight punch; quite frankly the North can afford to experiment with a variety of designs (some of them wildly different and a few outright bangers) because they need never worry about being out-produced by the South (because the Northern Industrial base is SO MUCH BIGGER), so they can afford to deal with a number of companies and prioritise the "lowest bidder" over minor niceties of design.

The South, by contrast, has to get things RIGHT (or at least "Good Enough") at the design stage because the Confederacy can't afford to spare the time to fix problems on the production floor (much less maintain 'lemons' in the fighting line); they need tanks that WORK and they need to build them as quickly as possible in order to keep up with the Yankees. This probably leads to long production runs of known quantities - tanks that have proven their reliability again and again - as well as a good deal of variations on a theme (instead of designing an entirely new tank and wasting time on restructuring everything in the Factory, they prefer to build a variation on an older tank so that much the same production lines can be used).


One hopes that I have been able to convey my ideas without waffling them up - please let me know if any points require clarification!
You make a good point about bird-dog making a better name for an airplane than a tank, if you have a suggestion for a new name please post it. I also like "Stalwart" and I'm going to change the name of the "Dingo" to "Stalwart".

I like your take on the Southern arms industry and my thinking on the medium tank "Coyote" falls under that scenario IMO. It was a well thought out design that performed as hoped and planned and so it formed the basis for a family of AFV variants, much like the Pz.Kpfw. IV was converted into so many different variants by the Germans IOTL.

As to how I made the gun pics, like all my pics, I make copies of guns or tanks, planes ect. and with my paint tools I scale them to the same size (actually my good friend Claymore scales them for me most of the time but sometimes using certain similar sections, I can scale them myself). I then cut out the sections I want and paste these sections to the main pic and then draw or color in any blank spaces that need filling in.

I also sometimes extend sections of a pic, for instance the SMG I made with a pic of an MP-41 (basically a stocked MP-40), I made a copy of the MP-41 and cut off a section of the stock and pasted it to the front end of the gun to make it longer. Working with color photos is trickier than working with black & white line drawings, I don't know how to do Photoshop but sometimes people think that's how I do it.

I'm glad you liked the pics and the thinking behind them, Alterwright deserves credit too for some of the ideas I used as well, I always appreciate constructive criticism and suggestion of my pics, they help me to improve them.
If you'd like to see more pics of alternate guns, AFV's and aircraft, you can see more of them on the "Alternate Air & Space", "Alternate Weapons of War" and the "Alternate Armoured Fighting Vehicles" threads, there are links to all these sights on this thread thru out some of my post.
If you like alternate tank designs, I strongly recommend the "Alternate Armoured Fighting Vehicles" thread, there are some excellent designs there by my friend Claymore and photos of scale models that he's built of a lot of his designs. Good stuff.
 
Would the Sarge try out or even develop a project like a Landschlachtschiff - something akin to OTL Nazi German super-size tanks (Maus or Ratte)?

Hm. I'm willing to bet they tried, but couldn't match the US's industrial capacity to make any model on a mass scale. The books allude to tanks (barrels - I can never use that name) in the late stages of the war fielded by the Confederates as having thick armor and a good gun. But, they weren't invincible. Irving Morrel and a few of his own mid-war tanks in a skirmish in Georgia were able to knock one of them through better leadership and tactics.

Way I see it --- yes the Confederates would try to make heavier tanks. However, in my opinion, something on the scale of the Ratte would be totally out of their production capacity. They couldn't make it if they tried. Even the Germans in our timeline couldn't hope produce the Ratte, much less the other heavy tanks they already had on the field. The United States Army finding blueprints and plans for a super massive Confederate tank is entirely possible though, just not the actual tank. It'd be something that never got off the drawing board. Something equivalent to the Maus though --- eh, maybe. Probably one prototype that managed to get squeezed out just before the end of the war, but never really saw action. But hey! They'd make one at least.

Now something like the Panther (in this forum's case the excellently named FV44 "Timber-Wolf") is entirely in the realm of possibility for the Confederates. Experimental designs using existing chassises and putting whatever works on them are also in the realm of plausibility for the Confederates. In fact I believe you'd probably see more experimental and wilder weapons on existing Confederate chassises more than bigger newer designs. That's how I see it though.

Now, the United States making a Maus or Ratte... that's another story :evilsmile:
 
These last posts remind me that the CSA did have a heavy tank that sounded something like a Tiger-I, I don't think it had sloped armor either. I'll draw something up but what do you guys think of this old design of mine? Its a Tiger-I turret on a KV-2 hull. Does anyone here recall if the CSA used diesel engines in their tanks?

KV-VK-.jpg

So I'm thinking of maybe using his tank but with a different gun (suggestions welcomed) and maybe a different suspension too.
Thoughts, suggestions or should we just use this tank as is?
 
KV/Tiger with British gun but not to scale, I was thinking maybe its a 20 pdr. but I don't thing a 20 pdr could fit in the Tiger-I's turret and I already used the 17 pdr in the Coyote.

Dire Wolf.jpg

Needs work and a name, maybe Dire Wolf?
 
I found a pic of my KV-VK (what I originally called the Tiger/VK) design that Claymore had done, its still my design but it's in scale and uses line drawings and I also found a pic of Claymores in the same scale with a 20 pdr. gun so now everything is in the right scale and I was wrong before, the 20 pdr. fits just fine.

So I did a little further tweaking, I used the suspension from an IS-2 a 50 cal MG plus I modded the commander's cupola a bit.

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It still needs a name, not sure about Dire Wolf. What other large canine name might work?

EDIT: This tank is now the FV42H Dire Wolf.
 
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These last posts remind me that the CSA did have a heavy tank that sounded something like a Tiger-I, I don't think it had sloped armor either. I'll draw something up but what do you guys think of this old design of mine? Its a Tiger-I turret on a KV-2 hull. Does anyone here recall if the CSA used diesel engines in their tanks?

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So I'm thinking of maybe using his tank but with a different gun (suggestions welcomed) and maybe a different suspension too.
Thoughts, suggestions or should we just use this tank as is?

Oh my god, a Tiger-I turret on a KV hull!? Talk about heavy! This is a big fat boy, isn't it! It feels like a stop gap the Soviets would use for fun just to test out new designs. Looks pretty unique though! Like a more squat version of a Tiger. You've changed the gun since posting this one, which is good. The muzzle break and gun make the overall tank feel too German for Confederate tank, so good call.
 
I found a pic of my KV-VK (what I originally called the Tiger/VK) design that Claymore had done, its still my design but it's in scale and uses line drawings and I also found a pic of Claymores in the same scale with a 20 pdr. gun so now everything is in the right scale and I was wrong before, the 20 pdr. fits just fine.

So I did a little further tweaking, I used the suspension from an IS-2 a 50 cal MG plus I modded the commander's cupola a bit.

It still needs a name, not sure about Dire Wolf. What other large canine name might work?

I don't know, I personally like the sound of Dire Wolf! This is all just playing into my love of wolves though! So I am loving the names so far! I mean if you're really not sure, you can also go with "Gray Wolf", "Red Wolf", "Mastiff" (not a wolf :(), or, if you're wanting to think outside the realistic box and get into mythological wolves and dogs - Kerberos/Cerberus, Amarok/Amaroq, Warg, Fenrir, Garmr. Or if we really want to parallel German tanks... we can call it the "Alpha Wolf", "Queen Wolf", "King Wolf" or whatever titled wolf ya want! Paralleling the fact that the Germans called the Tiger II the "King Tiger", "Royal Tiger", or "Konigstiger".

I still personally like Dire Wolf though! Though I'd refrain from designating it "FV44". Since the FV44 Timber Wolf is a thing, how about giving it a slightly different designation? Like "FV44A2 Dire Wolf" - or "Fighting Vehicle model 1944, alteration 2 - Dire Wolf". While the Timber Wolf is either designated "FV44A1 Timber Wolf", or just "FV44 Timber Wolf"

Might need to come up with a designation for the light tanks too, if we haven't already lol XD "FV" to me designates the regular main tanks like the FV38 Coyote. Maybe... "LFV"? "Light Fighting Vehicle"? Since "AC" designates the "armored cars".

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BK44 Bulldog armed with a 32 Pdr.

Yooooo! This thing is a beast! This will bust those barrels good! Is the 32 per. a real gun? Like, was this a real gun used by the British? What was it even used for?

Well it looks good! I appreciated the little Italian influences in the previous designs, but for the heavier tanks that can really kill you'd need a design closer to the Germans for our purposes here. I don't recognize some of the features, but I'd guess the sloped armor here is from a German tank. A Jagdpanther? Hetzer? Although what I do appreciate is the .50 Cal gun for added infantry defense. I feel like that's something the Confederate would do - add at least machine gun to every tank, whether its coaxial or mounted near the commanders cupola.
 
Right, let me run off a check list here and make a summary of the tanks we have for the Confederate Army/Freedom Party Guardsmen. I just need to summarize all cause I wanna keep track of what's been said so far. So please add to the discussion on this if you can!

Thanks in big part Cortz#9 and everyone who helped out in the process we have a list of potential fan-made Confederate tanks for Featherston's armies. This also includes potential vehicles the Freedom Party Guardsmen would operate.

We have: "AC", "FV", "SV", "BK"
  • "AC" - "Armored Car" - basically armored cars
  • "FV" - "Fighting Vehicle" - basically tanks or various classes
  • "SV" - "Special Vehicle"(???) - basically the self-propelled guns (SPGs), and self-propelled anti-air guns (SPAAGs)
  • "BK" - "Barrel Killer" - basically the turret-less tank destroyers in TL-191
For the "AC" armored cars section we have three undesignated and unnamed vehicles and one designated/named vehicle:
  • AC-7 "Badger" - 6-wheeler, 6 pdr. gun
For the the "FV", "BK", and "SV" tanks sections we have several named/designated vehicles, plus a few unspecified tanks:
  • FV38 "Coyote" - 6 pdr. gun
  • SV39 "Armadillo I, Dillo I" - 75mm gun (possible clarification on gun)
  • BK40 "Armadillo II, Dillo II" - 6 pdr. gun (possible clarification on gun)
  • SV40 SPAAG - 3.7 cm AA auto cannon (possible clarification on name)
  • FV44 "Timber Wolf" - 17 pdr. gun
  • BK44 "Bulldog" - 32 pdr. gun
  • FV38 "Stalwart" - 25mm gun, flamethrower (possible revision on designation number, to differentiate between "Coyote", example - FV35 or FV36)
Here are the "names" for tanks and other vehicles that have been proposed so far as I can tell, but not yet attached to any vehicle:
  • "Cavalier"
  • "Dragoon"
  • "Volunteer"
  • "Rifleman"
  • "Dire Wolf"
  • "Gray Wolf"
  • "Red Wolf"
  • "Alpha Wolf"
  • "King/Queen Wolf"
  • "Kerberos/Cerberus"
  • "Amarok/Amaroq"
  • "Mastiff"
  • "Warg"
  • "Fenrir/Garmr"
Here are a few more I'd like to add to the "names" list:
  • "Hussar"
  • "Lancer"
  • "Uhlan"
  • "Sharpshooter"
  • "Trooper"
  • "Ranger"
  • "Hunter"
  • "Zouave"
  • "Sentinel"
  • "Guardsman"
  • "Page"
  • "Knight"
  • "Paladin"
  • "Cherokee"
  • "Comanche"
  • "Seminole"
  • "Warrior"
  • "Berserker"
  • "Elk"
  • "Shrew"
  • "Boar"
  • "Razorback"
  • "Skink"
  • "Gray Fox"
  • "Red Fox"
  • "Crocodile"
  • "Ocelot"
  • "Jack Rabbit"
Also for the numerical designations I got a few ideas. For tanks that will potentially have multiple upgrades or alterations done on them, I think it might be good to further expand on this. In an earlier post I suggested that an additional designation denoting an upgrade or alteration may be used.

For example, if the FV38 coyote is going to be upgraded or altered, perhaps a designation like FV38A1 might work, whereas the next alternation would be FV38A2, A3, A4, A5, A6, A7 and so on, but the tank itself would still be called "Coyote" since it still uses the same hull and turret design, just adding a bigger gun and other minor armor upgrades. I say this so that it can roughly parallel to the upgrades made on the Panzer IV in our timeline, as it went through changes over the years, such as Ausf. B, C, D, E and so on.

Let me know what you guys think! And please add anything or change anything, its all up for debate and discussion!
 
I don't know, I personally like the sound of Dire Wolf! This is all just playing into my love of wolves though! So I am loving the names so far! I mean if you're really not sure, you can also go with "Gray Wolf", "Red Wolf", "Mastiff" (not a wolf :(), or, if you're wanting to think outside the realistic box and get into mythological wolves and dogs - Kerberos/Cerberus, Amarok/Amaroq, Warg, Fenrir, Garmr. Or if we really want to parallel German tanks... we can call it the "Alpha Wolf", "Queen Wolf", "King Wolf" or whatever titled wolf ya want! Paralleling the fact that the Germans called the Tiger II the "King Tiger", "Royal Tiger", or "Konigstiger".

I still personally like Dire Wolf though! Though I'd refrain from designating it "FV44". Since the FV44 Timber Wolf is a thing, how about giving it a slightly different designation? Like "FV44A2 Dire Wolf" - or "Fighting Vehicle model 1944, alteration 2 - Dire Wolf". While the Timber Wolf is either designated "FV44A1 Timber Wolf", or just "FV44 Timber Wolf"

Might need to come up with a designation for the light tanks too, if we haven't already lol XD "FV" to me designates the regular main tanks like the FV38 Coyote. Maybe... "LFV"? "Light Fighting Vehicle"? Since "AC" designates the "armored cars".

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I'm calling the heavy tank the FV42H (H for heavy) Dire Wolf. I think 1942 was the year the CSA introduce the heavy barrel, same year the Germans introduce the Tiger. The light tanks will be FV(year of introduction) and L and medium tanks will have an "M'' at the end but before its animal name.
Going to go back and edit the designations on the AFV's I've already done.

Yooooo! This thing is a beast! This will bust those barrels good! Is the 32 per. a real gun? Like, was this a real gun used by the British? What was it even used for?

Well it looks good! I appreciated the little Italian influences in the previous designs, but for the heavier tanks that can really kill you'd need a design closer to the Germans for our purposes here. I don't recognize some of the features, but I'd guess the sloped armor here is from a German tank. A Jagdpanther? Hetzer? Although what I do appreciate is the .50 Cal gun for added infantry defense. I feel like that's something the Confederate would do - add at least machine gun to every tank, whether its coaxial or mounted near the commanders cupola.
The 32 pdr was a real gun, I don't think the British used it in WWII except for maybe on some artillery guns but there were plans to mount them on some late war tank destroyer designs but the war ended. I'm no expert but I think the 32 Pdr would be the equivalent of a 90 or 100mm gun. If you ever play "World of Tanks" there are a some tanks and TD's with the 32 Pdr.
The armoured casemate on the Heavy TD is from a Jagdpanther but a little shorter and the hull is from an IS-2. I don't think Italian or Japanese AFV's would work for heavy tanks or TD's, so sticking with German, Russian and British AFV's.
 
Right, let me run off a check list here and make a summary of the tanks we have for the Confederate Army/Freedom Party Guardsmen. I just need to summarize all cause I wanna keep track of what's been said so far. So please add to the discussion on this if you can!

Thanks in big part Cortz#9 and everyone who helped out in the process we have a list of potential fan-made Confederate tanks for Featherston's armies. This also includes potential vehicles the Freedom Party Guardsmen would operate.

We have: "AC", "FV", "SV", "BK"
  • "AC" - "Armored Car" - basically armored cars
  • "FV" - "Fighting Vehicle" - basically tanks or various classes
  • "SV" - "Special Vehicle"(???) - basically the self-propelled guns (SPGs), and self-propelled anti-air guns (SPAAGs)
  • "BK" - "Barrel Killer" - basically the turret-less tank destroyers in TL-191
For the "AC" armored cars section we have three undesignated and unnamed vehicles and one designated/named vehicle:
  • AC-7 "Badger" - 6-wheeler, 6 pdr. gun
For the the "FV", "BK", and "SV" tanks sections we have several named/designated vehicles, plus a few unspecified tanks:
  • FV38 "Coyote" - 6 pdr. gun
  • SV39 "Armadillo I, Dillo I" - 75mm gun (possible clarification on gun)
  • BK40 "Armadillo II, Dillo II" - 6 pdr. gun (possible clarification on gun)
  • SV40 SPAAG - 3.7 cm AA auto cannon (possible clarification on name)
  • FV44 "Timber Wolf" - 17 pdr. gun
  • BK44 "Bulldog" - 32 pdr. gun
  • FV38 "Stalwart" - 25mm gun, flamethrower (possible revision on designation number, to differentiate between "Coyote", example - FV35 or FV36)
Here are the "names" for tanks and other vehicles that have been proposed so far as I can tell, but not yet attached to any vehicle:
  • "Cavalier"
  • "Dragoon"
  • "Volunteer"
  • "Rifleman"
  • "Dire Wolf"
  • "Gray Wolf"
  • "Red Wolf"
  • "Alpha Wolf"
  • "King/Queen Wolf"
  • "Kerberos/Cerberus"
  • "Amarok/Amaroq"
  • "Mastiff"
  • "Warg"
  • "Fenrir/Garmr"
Here are a few more I'd like to add to the "names" list:
  • "Hussar"
  • "Lancer"
  • "Uhlan"
  • "Sharpshooter"
  • "Trooper"
  • "Ranger"
  • "Hunter"
  • "Zouave"
  • "Sentinel"
  • "Guardsman"
  • "Page"
  • "Knight"
  • "Paladin"
  • "Cherokee"
  • "Comanche"
  • "Seminole"
  • "Warrior"
  • "Berserker"
  • "Elk"
  • "Shrew"
  • "Boar"
  • "Razorback"
  • "Skink"
  • "Gray Fox"
  • "Red Fox"
  • "Crocodile"
  • "Ocelot"
  • "Jack Rabbit"
Also for the numerical designations I got a few ideas. For tanks that will potentially have multiple upgrades or alterations done on them, I think it might be good to further expand on this. In an earlier post I suggested that an additional designation denoting an upgrade or alteration may be used.

For example, if the FV38 coyote is going to be upgraded or altered, perhaps a designation like FV38A1 might work, whereas the next alternation would be FV38A2, A3, A4, A5, A6, A7 and so on, but the tank itself would still be called "Coyote" since it still uses the same hull and turret design, just adding a bigger gun and other minor armor upgrades. I say this so that it can roughly parallel to the upgrades made on the Panzer IV in our timeline, as it went through changes over the years, such as Ausf. B, C, D, E and so on.

Let me know what you guys think! And please add anything or change anything, its all up for debate and discussion!
I agree with this and see my previous post for how I'm going to designate light "L", medium "M" and heavy "H".

Feel free to name the two unamed AC's, oh and SV stands for Support Vehicle.
 
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