TL-191: Featherston's Finest - Uniforms, Weapons, and Vehicles of the CSA and Freedom Party

I could see this for the Republic of Texas. I doubt that the Union would allow any of the rest of the former CSA to break away ever again, Texas got lucky that it got to maintain its independence . I could see a (or several) War(s) between Texas and Mexico in the Cold War years. Maybe the Germans or Brazilians (who look to be becoming the leader of South America) prop up a Third Mexican Empire after the (Third/Fourth?) Mexican republic falls into Civil War. This Third Empire might seek to restore Tejas triggering a Brushfire War when Berlin makes it clear that direct American Interference would lead to Germany getting involved.
In the long run, I doubt that the Union can hold on to the former CSA. Trying to absorb a country which has been independent for eighty-something years, and has based its national identity on said independence, is not going to go well. The Union has enough trouble with Canada and the Mormons, both of which have much smaller populations.
 
In the long run, I doubt that the Union can hold on to the former CSA. Trying to absorb a country which has been independent for eighty-something years, and has based its national identity on said independence, is not going to go well. The Union has enough trouble with Canada and the Mormons, both of which have much smaller populations.
Yeah. It would make sense for the Union to grudgingly grant the individual states of the Confederacy independence in the 10 to 20 years after Victory Day. Only that they're not allowed to form any type of confederation, union, league or shared government.
 
Yeah. It would make sense for the Union to grudgingly grant the individual states of the Confederacy independence in the 10 to 20 years after Victory Day. Only that they're not allowed to form any type of confederation, union, league or shared government.
In addition, I can see the Union Government providing these forces at first hand-down equipment that's not comparable to their latest stuff.
 
I'm starting the planning phase for a possible 191 based tl that starts after the great war where featherston is killed in the battle of Round Hill at the end of the war. If any of y'all would like to bounce ideas around pm me.
 
And yet the US is going to keep Canada? No. They aren't going to let the former Confederate states go under any circumstances. Twice bitten, thrice shy. Not after two Great Wars, a Civil War, and the Mexican War. That would be political suicide.
 
I'm starting the planning phase for a possible 191 based tl that starts after the great war where featherston is killed in the battle of Round Hill at the end of the war. If any of y'all would like to bounce ideas around pm me.
Ooooh, that'll be cool. Maybe a Redemption League-led CSA rather than Freedom as the Freedom Party never grows past a small thing. Or maybe the Freedom Party becomes a semi-large Party in Virginia and the Carolinas under Koenig, but never grows past that while Redemptionist CSA

Willy Knight is young, ambitious, and he might just create a functioning semi-fascist CSA.

But it may not be expansionist per se, not like Featherston, but more akin to getting lands returned, maybe some wars in the Caribbean and a Cold War like environment against the Americans.
 
And yet the US is going to keep Canada? No. They aren't going to let the former Confederate states go under any circumstances. Twice bitten, thrice shy. Not after two Great Wars, a Civil War, and the Mexican War. That would be political suicide.
I'm not sold on the US keeping Canada, either, but it's a much easier place to keep because the population is that much lower.

As for keeping the former CSA, there's a lot of factors that put that in doubt. Annexing a country that has been independent for four generations, with a population that can't simply be flooded out with your own loyalists, is going to cause serious political problems at best. For one, the former CSA will, at some point, have to be returned to civilian, democratic rule. This means that any politician running for federal office will have to win former Confederate states, meaning keeping the former CSA "by any means necessary" would be political suicide. This also assumes that post-war resistance to what Confederates would see as conquest wouldn't quickly sour American opinions on continued occupation. This population wouldn't be all neo-Freedomites, either: there's a large portion of the Confederate population who would be happy Featherston is gone, but wouldn't be happy that a country they were independent from for eighty-something years has decided theirs doesn't exist. To compare the timescale, imagine mid-19th century America's reaction to British occupation and forced reunion. Or for that matter, how Indians would feel about a return to British rule today.
 
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Sorry haven't got the pictures lined up. But this is my head cannon for the CSA Navy pre great war capital ship wise. I'll post pics soon promise

CSN Battleships
Virginia Class Constructed 1888-1892
B-1 CSS Virginia (Sold to Mexico 1910)
B-2 CSS North Carolina (Sold to Mexico 1910)

South Carolina Class Constructed 1894-1896
B-3 CSS South Carolina (Sunk Battle of the Capes 1915)
B-4 CSS Georgia (US War Prize Sunk in Aviation Bombing test 1921)

Louisiana Class constructed 1898-1900
B-5 CSS Louisiana
B-6 CSS Arkansas (Sunk Battle of the Capes 1915)
B-7 CSS Florida
B-8 CSS Cuba (Sunk Battle of the Capes 1915)

Mississippi Class constructed 1906-1908
B-9 CSS Mississippi
B-10 CSS Alabama

Dreadnoughts

North Carolina Class (16,000 tons) Built 1911-1914 slightly larger Espana Class Battleship
B-11 CSS North Carolina (Sunk Battle of the Capes 1915)
B-12 CSS Virginia (Warprize USA Sunk in Aviation bombing test 1921)
B-13 CSS Sonora (Danaged Battle of the Isla Ceralvo 1916/USA War prize scrapped 1918)
B-14 CSS Chihuahua (War prize to Empire of Brazil Refitted 1925 Remaned Pedro II)

Armored Cruisers
Stonewall Class Armored Cruiser (9,996 tons) Constructed 1900-1902 Gloire-class
CA-1 CSS Stonewall
CA-2 CSS Longstreet
CA-3 CSS R.E.Lee (Sunk Battle of the Azores 1914)

Palmetto Class Armored Cruiser (12,550 tons) Constructed 1909-1914 Léon Gambetta-class
CA-4 CSS Palmetto (Sunk Battle of the Azores 1914)
CA-5 CSS JEB Stuart (War Prize to the Empire of Brazil Renamed Manaus)

Battlecruiser (18,500 tons) Started 1913 never finished six 14inch guns in 3x2
Enterprise Class
CC-1 CSS Enterprise (USA Warprize sold for Scrap 1919)
CC-2 CSS Shenandoah (Brazilian Warprize Completed as the Maria I )
 
I'm not sold on the US keeping Canada, either, but it's a much easier place to keep because the population is that much lower.

As for keeping the former CSA, there's a lot of factors that put that in doubt. Annexing a country that has been independent for four generations, with a population that can't simply be flooded out with your own loyalists, is going to cause serious political problems at best. For one, the former CSA will, at some point, have to be returned to civilian, democratic rule. This means that any politician running for federal office will have to win former Confederate states, meaning keeping the former CSA "by any means necessary" would be political suicide. This also assumes that post-war resistance to what Confederates would see as conquest wouldn't quickly sour American opinions on continued occupation. This population wouldn't be all neo-Freedomites, either: there's a large portion of the Confederate population who would be happy Featherston is gone, but wouldn't be happy that a country they were independent from for eighty-something years has decided theirs doesn't exist. To compare the timescale, imagine mid-19th century America's reaction to British occupation and forced reunion. Or for that matter, how Indians would feel about a return to British rule today.
I have to disagree: remember that the USA in this timeline isn't quite so liberal and freedom-loving as our own either. the US occupation forces have shown they have no issues killing people in order to maintain, well, order. They have Utah to look to as an example of how letting a population go about their business can bite them in the ass. And plenty of folks will remember the Socialists "causing" the Depression and letting the Second Great War happen in the first place by their accommodation of Featherston, and i'd imagine hardline Democrats are gonna be winning the White House for a long time. Indeed, I'd be amazed if Ohio and Pennsylvania ever vote Socialist again.

I feel like it's kind of overlooked how deep the drive for revenge runs in the Union psyche in this timeline: Clarence Potter often comments on it, either vocally or in rumination. the CSA betrayed the USA and humiliated them, twice, and when the Union finally got its own back in 1917 the CSA basically threw a massive tantrum and tried to destroy the USA completely so that would never happen again.

the USA is never going to allow the CSA to threaten them again.
 
I have to disagree: remember that the USA in this timeline isn't quite so liberal and freedom-loving as our own either. the US occupation forces have shown they have no issues killing people in order to maintain, well, order. They have Utah to look to as an example of how letting a population go about their business can bite them in the ass. And plenty of folks will remember the Socialists "causing" the Depression and letting the Second Great War happen in the first place by their accommodation of Featherston, and i'd imagine hardline Democrats are gonna be winning the White House for a long time. Indeed, I'd be amazed if Ohio and Pennsylvania ever vote Socialist again.

I feel like it's kind of overlooked how deep the drive for revenge runs in the Union psyche in this timeline: Clarence Potter often comments on it, either vocally or in rumination. the CSA betrayed the USA and humiliated them, twice, and when the Union finally got its own back in 1917 the CSA basically threw a massive tantrum and tried to destroy the USA completely so that would never happen again.

the USA is never going to allow the CSA to threaten them again.
And how long would that sentiment last? And how much blood is the Union willing to pay, on their end, for that order? I expect violent resistance on a scale that makes Utah pale in comparison. The Union can try to meet that with their own reprisals, but this will only continue that cycle of violence and revenge.

If you're interested in my more detailed arguments and how I think a Union attempt to hold the Confederacy would end, I posted it here. I can buy that the Union would stubbornly try to hold the former CSA, but that path will only lead to more misery for everyone.
 
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William T. Ponder class Aircraft Carrier (Planned Layout)

Specifications (Planned)
Weight: 22,500 long tons fully loaded
Propulsion: 6x Forced circulation boilers
Range: 7,000 nautical miles
Speed: 33 knots
Sensors: Type 279 early warning radar, Type 271 fire control radar, 4x Type 282 anti-aircraft radar.
Aviation Capacity: 14-16 Hughes H-38N Seadog Fighters, 12 Talbot T-40 Walrus Dive Bombers*, 12 Taylorcraft TC-41 Water Moccasin Torpedo Bombers, 3 Austin A-41 Otter Recon Planes, 1 catapult
Armor:
  • Belt: 105mm
  • Flight Deck: 70mm
  • Turrets: 20mm
  • Barbettes: 20mm
  • Conning Tower: 90mm
Armament:
  • 6 x 130mm guns (3x2)
  • 8 x 37mm AA guns (4x4)
  • 16 x 25mm AA guns
Ship​
Builder​
Laid Down​
Launched​
Commissioned​
Fate​
CSS William T. Ponder (C-1)Newport News Shipbuilding and DrydockSeptember 24th, 1939November 19th, 1941Scuttled in Mobile, Alabama, June 1944, later raised and sunk in weapons tests in the Atlantic in 1947.
C-2Newport News Shipbuilding and DrydockJanuary 16th, 1940Construction Suspended, March 1942, Broken up on slipway, 1943.
C-3Charleston Naval Shipyard (Planned)Cancelled, May 1940
C-4New Orleans Naval Yard (Planned)Cancelled, May 1940

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* = Navalized variant of the Mule Dive Bomber
 
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And how long would that sentiment last? And how much blood is the Union willing to pay, on their end, for that order? I expect violent resistance on a scale that makes Utah pale in comparison. The Union can try to meet that with their own reprisals, but this will only continue that cycle of violence and revenge.

If you're interested in my more detailed arguments and how I think a Union attempt to hold the Confederacy would end, I posted it here. I can buy that the Union would stubbornly try to hold the former CSA, but that path will only lead to more misery for everyone.
I would honestly imagine the sentiments the USA would hold would be akin to the Soviets on the "satellite states" they exist at the whim of the central government.
if the CSA ever regains a modicum of independence, it will be as a puppet of the USA, and that's hardly any different from a continued occupation.
 
I would honestly imagine the sentiments the USA would hold would be akin to the Soviets on the "satellite states" they exist at the whim of the central government.
if the CSA ever regains a modicum of independence, it will be as a puppet of the USA, and that's hardly any different from a continued occupation.
I certainly agree there. But the pretense of independence solves a lot of problems that perpetual occupation* or forced integration would bring. Independence movements have more trouble forming because their goal is already ostensibly achieved. A puppet government is an easy scapegoat for discontent. And, nobody has to worry about ex-Confederates voting and steering Union politics in undesirable directions.

* I certainly expect Union forces to remain behind in some capacity, so it's arguably a perpetual occupation anyway.
 
Confederate Dreadnoughts of the First Great War (Revised)

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Sonora class Battleship (1911)

Specifications (As originally completed)
Weight: 19,700 long tons fully loaded
Propulsion: 2x steam turbines
Range: 5,000 nautical miles
Speed: 21 knots
Armor:
  • Belt: 244mm
  • Deck: 72mm
  • Turrets: 279mm
  • Barbettes: 188mm
  • Conning Tower: 240mm
Armament:
  • 10 x 12in guns (5x2)
  • 20 x 138mm guns
  • 3 x 450mm torpedo tubes
Ship​
Builder​
Laid Down
Launched​
Commissioned​
Fate​
CSS Sonora (B-13)Armstrong-Whitworth, ElswickMay 31st, 1908August 17th, 1909June 1st, 1911Ceded to the USA as a war prize, scrapped in Baltimore, 1919.
CSS Tennessee (B-14)Newport News Shipbuilding and DrydockSeptember 10th, 1908September 28th, 1909August 19th, 1911Ceded to the USA as a war prize, sunk in Aviation bombing test off Martha's Vineyard, 1921.

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J.E.B. Stuart class Battleship (1912)

Specifications (As originally completed)
Weight: 19,700 long tons fully loaded
Propulsion: 2x steam turbines
Range: 5,700 nautical miles
Speed: 21 knots
Armor:
  • Belt: 250mm
  • Deck: 72mm
  • Turrets: 280mm
  • Barbettes: 211mm
  • Conning Tower: 275mm
Armament:
  • 10 x 12in guns (5x2)
  • 16 x 138mm guns
  • 3 x 450mm torpedo tubes
Ship​
Builder​
Laid Down​
Launched​
Commissioned​
Fate​
CSS J.E.B. Stuart (B-15)Armstrong-Whitworth, ElswickJanuary 1st, 1909September 23rd, 1910January 22nd, 1912Sunk by Naval Mines in the Chesapeake Bay, June 4th, 1916.
CSS Mississippi (B-16)Newport News Shipbuilding and DrydockFebruary 21st, 1909November 3rd, 1910March 15th, 1912Ceded to Brazil as a War Prize, renamed to Cuiaba, August 1918, sold for scrap to France, 1956.
CSS Dixie (B-17)Newport News Shipbuilding and DrydockJanuary 1st, 1910October 10th, 1911February 5th, 1913Ceded to the USA as a War Prize, sold to Greece in 1919 as Kilkis, sold for scrap to the UK, 1959.
 
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Confederate Dreadnoughts of the First Great War (Revised)

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Liberty class Battleship (1911)

Specifications (As originally completed)
Weight: 19,700 long tons fully loaded
Propulsion: 2x steam turbines
Range: 5,000 nautical miles
Speed: 21 knots
Armor:
  • Belt: 244mm
  • Deck: 72mm
  • Turrets: 279mm
  • Barbettes: 188mm
  • Conning Tower: 240mm
Armament:
  • 10 x 12in guns (5x2)
  • 20 x 138mm guns
  • 3 x 450mm torpedo tubes
Ship​
Builder​
Laid Down
Launched​
Commissioned​
Fate​
CSS Liberty (B-9)Armstrong-Whitworth, ElswickMay 31st, 1908August 17th, 1909June 1st, 1911Ceded to the USA as a war prize, scrapped in Baltimore, 1919.
CSS Fort Sumter (B-10)Newport News Shipbuilding and DrydockSeptember 10th, 1908September 28th, 1909August 19th, 1911Ceded to the USA as a war prize, sunk in Aviation bombing test off Martha's Vineyard, 1921.

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J.E.B. Stuart class Battleship (1912)

Specifications (As originally completed)
Weight: 19,700 long tons fully loaded
Propulsion: 2x steam turbines
Range: 5,700 nautical miles
Speed: 21 knots
Armor:
  • Belt: 250mm
  • Deck: 72mm
  • Turrets: 280mm
  • Barbettes: 211mm
  • Conning Tower: 275mm
Armament:
  • 10 x 12in guns (5x2)
  • 16 x 138mm guns
  • 3 x 450mm torpedo tubes
Ship​
Builder​
Laid Down​
Launched​
Commissioned​
Fate​
CSS J.E.B. Stuart (B-11)Armstrong-Whitworth, ElswickJanuary 1st, 1909September 23rd, 1910January 22nd, 1912Sunk by Naval Mines in the Chesapeake Bay, June 4th, 1916.
CSS Constitution (B-12)Newport News Shipbuilding and DrydockFebruary 21st, 1909November 3rd, 1910March 15th, 1912Ceded to Brazil as a War Prize, renamed to Cuiaba, August 1918, sold for scrap to France, 1956.
CSS Dixie (B-13)Vickers, Barrow-in-FurnessJanuary 1st, 1909October 10th, 1910February 5th, 1912Ceded to the USA as a War Prize, sold to Greece in 1919 as Kilkis, sold for scrap to France, 1959.
I get that they'd include Confederate heroes (JEB Stuart) and general concepts (Dixie), but why not states?
They're easily the most important thing in their history and society regardless of whether they still keep the "states' rights" slogan or not.
 
Confederate Dreadnoughts of the First Great War (Revised)

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Liberty class Battleship (1911)

Specifications (As originally completed)
Weight: 19,700 long tons fully loaded
Propulsion: 2x steam turbines
Range: 5,000 nautical miles
Speed: 21 knots
Armor:
  • Belt: 244mm
  • Deck: 72mm
  • Turrets: 279mm
  • Barbettes: 188mm
  • Conning Tower: 240mm
Armament:
  • 10 x 12in guns (5x2)
  • 20 x 138mm guns
  • 3 x 450mm torpedo tubes
Ship​
Builder​
Laid Down
Launched​
Commissioned​
Fate​
CSS Liberty (B-9)Armstrong-Whitworth, ElswickMay 31st, 1908August 17th, 1909June 1st, 1911Ceded to the USA as a war prize, scrapped in Baltimore, 1919.
CSS Tennessee (B-10)Newport News Shipbuilding and DrydockSeptember 10th, 1908September 28th, 1909August 19th, 1911Ceded to the USA as a war prize, sunk in Aviation bombing test off Martha's Vineyard, 1921.

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J.E.B. Stuart class Battleship (1912)

Specifications (As originally completed)
Weight: 19,700 long tons fully loaded
Propulsion: 2x steam turbines
Range: 5,700 nautical miles
Speed: 21 knots
Armor:
  • Belt: 250mm
  • Deck: 72mm
  • Turrets: 280mm
  • Barbettes: 211mm
  • Conning Tower: 275mm
Armament:
  • 10 x 12in guns (5x2)
  • 16 x 138mm guns
  • 3 x 450mm torpedo tubes
Ship​
Builder​
Laid Down​
Launched​
Commissioned​
Fate​
CSS J.E.B. Stuart (B-11)Armstrong-Whitworth, ElswickJanuary 1st, 1909September 23rd, 1910January 22nd, 1912Sunk by Naval Mines in the Chesapeake Bay, June 4th, 1916.
CSS Constitution (B-12)Newport News Shipbuilding and DrydockFebruary 21st, 1909November 3rd, 1910March 15th, 1912Ceded to Brazil as a War Prize, renamed to Cuiaba, August 1918, sold for scrap to France, 1956.
CSS Dixie (B-13)Vickers, Barrow-in-FurnessJanuary 1st, 1909October 10th, 1910February 5th, 1912Ceded to the USA as a War Prize, sold to Greece in 1919 as Kilkis, sold for scrap to France, 1959.
Looks like French influence. Thats also the way I go when I think about Confederate ships. love the ship designs keep up the good work.

I get that they'd include Confederate heroes (JEB Stuart) and general concepts (Dixie), but why not states?
They're easily the most important thing in their history and society regardless of whether they still keep the "states' rights" slogan or not.

I agree the CSN would (and Did kinda name its capital ships ( Coastal Ironclads, and some Raiders) after States. However we are each entitled to our own Head Cannon.

I view Ships named after Famous leaders or broad concepts would be cruisers Battle Cruisers or Carriers.
my earlier post as example.
Sorry haven't got the pictures lined up. But this is my head cannon for the CSA Navy pre great war capital ship wise. I'll post pics soon promise

CSN Battleships
Virginia Class Constructed 1888-1892
B-1 CSS Virginia (Sold to Mexico 1910)
B-2 CSS North Carolina (Sold to Mexico 1910)

South Carolina Class Constructed 1894-1896
B-3 CSS South Carolina (Sunk Battle of the Capes 1915)
B-4 CSS Georgia (US War Prize Sunk in Aviation Bombing test 1921)

Louisiana Class constructed 1898-1900
B-5 CSS Louisiana
B-6 CSS Arkansas (Sunk Battle of the Capes 1915)
B-7 CSS Florida
B-8 CSS Cuba (Sunk Battle of the Capes 1915)

Mississippi Class constructed 1906-1908
B-9 CSS Mississippi
B-10 CSS Alabama

Dreadnoughts

North Carolina Class (16,000 tons) Built 1911-1914 slightly larger Espana Class Battleship
B-11 CSS North Carolina (Sunk Battle of the Capes 1915)
B-12 CSS Virginia (Warprize USA Sunk in Aviation bombing test 1921)
B-13 CSS Sonora (Danaged Battle of the Isla Ceralvo 1916/USA War prize scrapped 1918)
B-14 CSS Chihuahua (War prize to Empire of Brazil Refitted 1925 Remaned Pedro II)

Armored Cruisers
Stonewall Class Armored Cruiser (9,996 tons) Constructed 1900-1902 Gloire-class
CA-1 CSS Stonewall
CA-2 CSS Longstreet
CA-3 CSS R.E.Lee (Sunk Battle of the Azores 1914)

Palmetto Class Armored Cruiser (12,550 tons) Constructed 1909-1914 Léon Gambetta-class
CA-4 CSS Palmetto (Sunk Battle of the Azores 1914)
CA-5 CSS JEB Stuart (War Prize to the Empire of Brazil Renamed Manaus)

Battlecruiser (18,500 tons) Started 1913 never finished six 14inch guns in 3x2
Enterprise Class
CC-1 CSS Enterprise (USA Warprize sold for Scrap 1919)
CC-2 CSS Shenandoah (Brazilian Warprize Completed as the Maria I )
 
CSN Battleships

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Virginia Class Constructed 1888-1892
B-1 CSS Virginia (Sold to Mexico 1910)
B-2 CSS North Carolina (Sold to Mexico 1910)


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South Carolina Class Constructed 1894-1896 First Domestically designed Battleship
B-3 CSS South Carolina (Sunk Battle of the Capes 1915)
B-4 CSS Georgia (US War Prize Sunk in Aviation Bombing test 1921)


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Louisiana Class constructed 1898-1900
B-5 CSS Louisiana
B-6 CSS Arkansas (Sunk Battle of the Capes 1915)
B-7 CSS Florida
B-8 CSS Cuba (Sunk Battle of the Capes 1915)


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Mississippi Class constructed 1906-1908
B-9 CSS Mississippi (Ex-:Lord Nelson )
B-10 CSS Alabama (Ex-Agamemnon)
The Royal Navy sold the two Lord Nelson Class Predreadnougthts while under construction to help build two additional Dreadnought Class Battleships.


Dreadnoughts

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North Carolina Class (16,000 tons) Built 1911-1914 slightly larger Espana Class Battleship
B-11 CSS North Carolina (Sunk Battle of the Capes 1915)
B-12 CSS Virginia (Warprize USA Sunk in Aviation bombing test 1921)
B-13 CSS Sonora (Danaged Battle of the Isla Ceralvo 1916/USA War prize repaired Sold the Republic of Mexico 1920)
B-14 CSS Chihuahua (War prize to Empire of Brazil Refitted 1925 Remaned Pedro II)

Armored Cruisers

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Stonewall Class Armored Cruiser (9,996 tons) Constructed 1900-1902
CA-1 CSS Stonewall
CA-2 CSS Longstreet
CA-3 CSS R.E.Lee (Sunk Battle of the Azores 1914)


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Palmetto Class Armored Cruiser (12,550 tons) Constructed 1909-1914 Léon Gambetta-class
CA-4 CSS Palmetto (Sunk Battle of the Azores 1914)
CA-5 CSS JEB Stuart (War Prize to the Empire of Brazil Renamed Manaus)

Battlecruiser (18,500 tons) Started 1913 never finished six 14inch guns in 3x2
Enterprise Class
CC-1 CSS Enterprise (USA Warprize sold for Scrap 1919)
CC-2 CSS Shenandoah (Brazilian Warprize Completed as the Maria I )


All pictures come from Ship bucket and save for minor alteations to some flags are not my work credits are on the the drawings.
 

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CSN Battleships

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Virginia Class Constructed 1888-1892
B-1 CSS Virginia (Sold to Mexico 1910)
B-2 CSS North Carolina (Sold to Mexico 1910)


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South Carolina Class Constructed 1894-1896 First Domestically designed Battleship
B-3 CSS South Carolina (Sunk Battle of the Capes 1915)
B-4 CSS Georgia (US War Prize Sunk in Aviation Bombing test 1921)


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Louisiana Class constructed 1898-1900
B-5 CSS Louisiana
B-6 CSS Arkansas (Sunk Battle of the Capes 1915)
B-7 CSS Florida
B-8 CSS Cuba (Sunk Battle of the Capes 1915)


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Mississippi Class constructed 1906-1908
B-9 CSS Mississippi (Ex-:Lord Nelson )
B-10 CSS Alabama (Ex-Agamemnon)
The Royal Navy sold the two Lord Nelson Class Predreadnougthts while under construction to help build two additional Dreadnought Class Battleships.


Dreadnoughts

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North Carolina Class (16,000 tons) Built 1911-1914 slightly larger Espana Class Battleship
B-11 CSS North Carolina (Sunk Battle of the Capes 1915)
B-12 CSS Virginia (Warprize USA Sunk in Aviation bombing test 1921)
B-13 CSS Sonora (Danaged Battle of the Isla Ceralvo 1916/USA War prize repaired Sold the Republic of Mexico 1920)
B-14 CSS Chihuahua (War prize to Empire of Brazil Refitted 1925 Remaned Pedro II)

Armored Cruisers

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Stonewall Class Armored Cruiser (9,996 tons) Constructed 1900-1902
CA-1 CSS Stonewall
CA-2 CSS Longstreet
CA-3 CSS R.E.Lee (Sunk Battle of the Azores 1914)


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Palmetto Class Armored Cruiser (12,550 tons) Constructed 1909-1914 Léon Gambetta-class
CA-4 CSS Palmetto (Sunk Battle of the Azores 1914)
CA-5 CSS JEB Stuart (War Prize to the Empire of Brazil Renamed Manaus)

Battlecruiser (18,500 tons) Started 1913 never finished six 14inch guns in 3x2
Enterprise Class
CC-1 CSS Enterprise (USA Warprize sold for Scrap 1919)
CC-2 CSS Shenandoah (Brazilian Warprize Completed as the Maria I )


All pictures come from Ship bucket and save for minor alteations to some flags are not my work credits are on the the drawings.
Interesting. If you want to use some other designs for the confederate Navy, in the Alternate history section of Shipbucket.com their is a timeline called War of the Americas, it has some very interesting designs for the CSN.
 
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The Austin A-41 Otter of the 17th Naval Reconnaissance Squadron based out of the Hatteras Naval Air Station, circa 1943. The Otter was developed in 1939 to meet a CSN requirement for a new, fast, long range recon plane that was to deployed from the William T. Ponder class Aircraft Carriers. The Otter would enter service in 1941, but would never serve aboard the carriers as intended as they were not completed by war's end, but instead operated out of onshore installations until war's end, by which time, 124 airframes would be completed. A single example is preserved at the Flying Heritage and Combat Armor Museum in Everett Washington.

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Taylorcraft TC-41 Water Moccasin Torpedo Bomber from the 6th Anti-Submarine Squadron stationed at Fort Lauderdale, circa August of 1943. Another aircraft model intended to operate from aircraft carriers, the TC-41 Water Moccasin would begin life as the Model 331, which was a failed competitor to the Talbot T-37 Mule. The design would be heavily modified in 1940 to serve as a torpedo bomber, which could carry a single 800 pound Mark 56 torpedo or up to 3 200 pound depth charges, in addition to 2 7.7mm machine-guns in the rear for defensive armament. During the Second Great War, the Water Moccasin would see heavy use not as a torpedo bomber as intended, but in an anti-submarine role, where the type was credited with the sinking of 3 Union Navy submarines in addition to more being damaged. A total of 155 airframes would be built from December of 1941 to June of 1942, in which none survive to the present day.

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Hughes H-38N-1 Seadog Float Fighter as stationed aboard the aircraft cruiser CSS Havana during the Second Battle of Bermuda. With the decision by the Confederate Navy to modify the incomplete light cruiser Havana into an improvised aircraft carrier, the decision was also taken to have a modified variant of the Hound Dog to be based from the cruiser as a floatfighter, which would theoretically provide a fleet operating in the Atlantic fighter cover. A total of 50 of the specially modified H-38 fighters would be manufactured, in which some would also operate from isolated islands in the Bahamas and the Caribbean.
 
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