TL-191: Featherston's Finest - Uniforms, Weapons, and Vehicles of the CSA and Freedom Party

If you can't include multiple aircraft with the same name (presumably as what-might-have-beens) on Alternate History.com, then where? ;)
Good point and there are some OTL cases of planes with the same name, I believe the Italians used the name "Falco" for a couple of different fighters.
Also curiously enough the name "Stuka" is short for dive bomber in German but was only used for the Ju-87 but could've applied to the Ju-88, Hs-123 and all German bombers capable of dive bombing.
Although the Ju-88 wasn't at it's best in the dive bombing role.
 
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Virginia class Heavy Cruiser (1934)

Specifications (as originally completed)
Weight: 13,000 long tons fully loaded
Propulsion: 8 x steam boilers boilers
Range: 6,000 nautical miles
Speed: 32 knots
Aviation Capacity: 3 Palmetto Aviation PA-61 seaplanes, 2 catapults
Armor:
  • Belt: 60mm
  • Main Deck: 35mm
  • Turrets: 30mm
  • Conning Tower: 45mm
Armament:
  • 8 x 8 in guns
  • 8 x 100mm AA guns
  • 8 x 37mm AA guns
  • 12 x 13mm AA machine-guns
ShipBuilderLaid DownLaunchedCommissionedFate
CSS Virginia (A-17)New Orleans Naval YardNovember 5th, 1931June 4th, 1932December 1st, 1934Sunk by US Navy aircraft during the Second Battle of Bermuda on April 9th, 1943.
CSS Georgia (A-18)New Orleans Naval YardFebruary 11th, 1932August 28th, 1932March 10th, 1935Captured by the US Navy at Tampa Bay in July of 1944, sunk during Nuclear Tests in the Pacific in August of 1945.
CSS North Carolina (A-19)Charleston Naval ShipyardFebruary 26th, 1932July 14th, 1932April 30th, 1935Sunk during the Battle of Berry Islands, July 8th, 1943.

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Alabama class Heavy Cruiser (1938)

Specifications (as originally completed as)
Weight: 13,700 long tons fully loaded
Propulsion: 6 x forced circulation boilers
Range: 8,700 nautical miles
Speed: 33 knots
Aviation Capacity: 3 Taylorcraft TC-37 seaplanes, 1 catapult
Armor:
  • Belt: 98mm
  • Main Deck: 80mm
  • Turrets: 90mm
  • Conning Tower: 95mm
Armament:
  • 8 x 8 in guns
  • 6 x 100mm AA guns
  • 8 x 37mm AA guns
  • 12 x 13mm AA machine-guns
ShipBuilderLaid DownLaunchedCommissionedFate
CSS Alabama (A-20)Newport News Shipbuilding and DrydockSeptember 1st, 1935April 5th, 1937July 3rd, 1938Damaged during the Superbombing of Newport News, July 5th 1944. Sunk by the US Navy in for target practice, circa April of 1946.
CSS Tennessee (A-21)Charleston Naval ShipyardSeptember 11th, 1935May 4th, 1937July 19th, 1938Sunk near the Faroe Islands by U-122, December 14th, 1941.
CSS Texas (A-22)Newport News Shipbuilding and DrydockMarch 20th, 1936October 20th, 1938May 1st, 1939Sunk during the Battle off Currituck, May 26th, 1944.
 
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Also, based on what you posted, is the date of the Second Battle of Bermuda based around the given info/approximate dates in the books?
 
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Most likely norfolk is bigger than Charleston as it was already a larger naval yard pre civil war. It is mentioned in the interwar books that Norfolk was the CSAs port of call for transatlantic ocean liners.
From what I remember from the last book, it sounded like that Mobile also had a large naval base. Besides being home to their Naval academy, because Sam Cransten bored that their were a large number of ships their, while his destroyer escort was doing occupation duty.
 
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Manassas class Light Cruiser (1928)

Specifications (as originally completed as)
Weight: 8,960 long tons fully loaded
Propulsion: 6 x three drum boilers
Range: 3,000 nautical miles
Speed: 30 knots
Armor:
  • Belt: 38mm
  • Main Deck: 20mm
  • Turrets: 30mm
  • Conning Tower: 30mm
Armament:
  • 6 x 6 in guns
  • 6 x 75mm AA guns
  • 4 x 13mm AA machine-guns
  • 8 x 7.7mm AA machine-guns
  • 12 x 550mm torpedo tubes (4 x 3)
ShipBuilderLaid DownLaunchedCommissionedFate
CSS Manassas (L-1)Charleston Naval ShipyardMay 3rd, 1924May 12th, 1925April 3rd, 1928Sunk during Air Raid in Houston, March 1st, 1944. Broken up in situ, 1949-1952.
CSS Little Rock (L-2)New Orleans Naval YardJune 6th, 1924July 3rd, 1926April 23rd, 1928Sunk during surface action, September 22nd, 1941.

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CSS Savannah Light Cruiser (1936)

Specifications (as originally completed as)
Weight: 6,700 long tons fully loaded
Propulsion: 6 x forced circulation boilers
Range: 5,000 nautical miles
Speed: 34 knots
Aviation Capacity: 2 Palmetto Aviation PA-61 seaplanes, 1 catapult
Armor:
  • Belt: 60mm
  • Main Deck: 28mm
  • Turrets: 30mm
  • Conning Tower: 20mm
Armament:
  • 9 x 6 in guns
  • 6 x 100mm AA guns
  • 8 x 37mm AA guns
  • 12 x 13mm AA machine-guns
  • 6 x 550mm torpedo tubes (2 x 3)
ShipBuilderLaid DownLaunchedCommissionedFate
CSS Savannah (L-3)Ingalls Shipbuilding, Pascagoula, MississippiMarch 1st, 1931September 30th, 1933September 16th, 1936Sunk in surface action during the Second Battle of Bermuda, April 11th, 1943.

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Richmond class Light Cruiser (1940)

Specifications (as originally completed as)
Weight: 9,790 long tons fully loaded
Propulsion: 4 x forced circulation boilers
Range: 7,000 nautical miles
Speed: 35 knots
Aviation Capacity: 2 Taylorcraft TC-37 seaplanes, 1 catapult
Armor:
  • Belt: 105mm
  • Main Deck: 38mm
  • Turrets: 100mm
  • Conning Tower: 95mm
Armament:
  • 12 x 6 in guns
  • 8 x 100mm AA guns
  • 8 x 37mm AA guns
  • 12 x 13mm AA machine-guns
  • 4 x 550mm torpedo tubes (2 x 2)
ShipBuilderLaid DownLaunchedCommissionedFate
CSS Richmond (L-4)Ingalls Shipbuilding, Pascagoula, MississippiSeptember 10th, 1936January 28th, 1939October 2nd, 1940Sunk during surface action during the Second Battle of Bermuda, April 11th, 1943.
CSS Havana (L-5)Newport News Shipbuilding and DrydockSeptember 25th, 1936August 3rd, 1938Completed to a modified design
CSS Houston (L-6)Charleston Naval ShipyardJanuary 2nd, 1937August 24th, 1939May 4th, 1941Captured by the US Navy at Tampa Bay in July of 1944, sunk during Nuclear Tests in the Pacific in August of 1945.
CSS Fort Sumter (L-7)Newport News Shipbuilding and DrydockMarch 1st, 1937August 28th, 1939June 2nd, 1941
Sunk during the Battle off Currituck, May 26th, 1944.

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CSS Havana Light Cruiser (1941)

Specifications (as originally completed as)
Weight: 10,040 long tons fully loaded
Propulsion: 4 x forced circulation boilers
Range: 7,000 nautical miles
Speed: 35 knots
Aviation Capacity: 8 Hughes H-38 Seadog Floatfighters, 2 Palmetto Aviation PA-61 seaplanes, 3 catapults
Armor:
  • Belt: 105mm
  • Main Deck: 38mm
  • Turrets: 100mm
  • Conning Tower: 95mm
Armament:
  • 6 x 6 in guns
  • 8 x 100mm AA guns
  • 8 x 37mm AA guns
  • 12 x 13mm AA machine-guns
  • 4 x 550mm torpedo tubes (2 x 2)
ShipBuilderLaid DownLaunchedCommissionedFate
CSS Havana (AL-5)Newport News Shipbuilding and DrydockSeptember 25th, 1936August 3rd, 1938January 2nd, 1941Scuttled in the Bahamas, March 27th, 1947
 
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the south numbering the heavy cruisers as addition to the armored cruiser numbers does make sense. i also going to assume that the south due to lack of resources never made switch from protected cruisers to light cruisers pre great war.
 
Here is some CSN Destroyers from the SGW era.

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Carter class Destroyer (1914)

Specifications (Following 1920s Refits)
Weight: 910 long tons fully loaded
Propulsion: 4x Triple expansion steam engines
Range: 2,000 nautical miles
Speed: 29 knots
Armor:
  • Belt: 14mm
  • Conning Tower: 12mm
Armament:
  • 1 x 105mm gun
  • 3 x 76mm guns
  • 2x 75mm AA guns
  • 2 x 7.7mm AA machine-guns
  • 6 x 450mm torpedo tubes (3 x 2)
ShipBuilderLaid DownLaunchedCommissionedFate
CSS Clifton R. Beckinridge (D-10)New Orleans Naval YardDecember 1913April 1914November 1914Sunk by USS Spearfish near Tampa Bay, February 6th, 1944.
CSS Dawson (D-11)New Orleans Naval YardDecember 1913April 1914November 1914Sunk by US Navy Aircraft in the Florida Strait, November 28th, 1944.
CSS James R. Randall (D-14)New Orleans Naval YardMay 1914September 1914February 1915Captured by the US Navy at Tampa Bay in July of 1944, BU 1945

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Truxtun class Destroyer (1926)

Specifications (as originally completed as)
Weight: 890 long tons fully loaded
Propulsion: 4x Thornycraft type boilers
Range: 1,800 nautical miles
Speed: 32 knots
Armor:
  • Belt: 15mm
  • Main Deck: 10mm
  • Conning Tower: 20mm
Armament:
  • 4 x 105mm guns
  • 2 x 75mm AA guns
  • 6 x 7.7mm AA machine-guns
  • 6 x 510mm torpedo tubes (2 x 3)
ShipBuilderLaid DownLaunchedCommissionedFate
CSS Truxtun (D-19)Ingalls Shipbuilding, Pascagoula, MississippiJune 1924July 1925August 1926Sold to Mexico as ARM Guanajanto, Summer of 1937. BU 1951
CSS Wrigley (D-20)Ingalls Shipbuilding, Pascagoula, MississippiJune 1924July 1925September 1926Sold to Mexico as ARM Durango, Summer of 1937. BU 1951
CSS Bader (D-21)New Orleans Naval YardFebruary 1925March 1926May 1927Captured by the US Navy at Tampa Bay in July of 1944, BU 1945
CSS Johnson (D-22)Ingalls Shipbuilding, Pascagoula, MississippiJune 1924July 1925September 1926Sunk by US Navy Aircraft in the Florida Strait, December 5th, 1943.
CSS Roper (D-23)New Orleans Naval YardFebruary 1925April 1926May 1927Damaged during an raid on Guantanamo Bay, June of 1944, Scuttled on June 25th, 1944.

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Tucker class Destroyer (1933)

Specifications (as originally completed as)
Weight: 1,740 long tons fully loaded
Propulsion: 3x three drum boilers
Range: 1,900 nautical miles
Speed: 33 knots
Armor:
  • Belt: 25mm
  • Main Deck: 18mm
  • Conning Tower: 20mm
Armament:
  • 4 x 130mm guns
  • 2 x 37mm AA guns
  • 4 x 13mm AA machine-guns
  • 6 x 550mm torpedo tubes (2 x 3)
  • 2 depth charge launchers + 20 depth charges
  • 60 Naval Mines
ShipsBuilderLaid DownLaunchedCommissionedFate
CSS Tucker (D-24)Ingalls Shipbuilding, Pascagoula, MississippiFebruary 1929July 1930July 1933Sunk during surface action during the Second Battle of Bermuda, April 11th, 1943.
CSS Judah P. Benjamin (D-25)Ingalls Shipbuilding, Pascagoula, MississippiFebruary 1929July 1930October 1933Sunk during the Battle off Currituck, May 26th, 1944.
CSS Anderson (D-26)Newport News Shipbuilding and DrydockNovember 1929March 1931December 1933Sunk during surface action during the Second Battle of Bermuda, April 11th, 1943.
CSS McCoy (D-27)Charleston Naval ShipyardMarch 1930August 1931September 1934Scuttled in Havana, July 14th, 1944, BU 1948.
CSS Calhoun Ruggles (D-28)Charleston Naval ShipyardMarch 1930August 1931February 1935Captured by the US Navy at Tampa Bay in July of 1944, BU 1948.
CSS Wilson G. Richardson (D-29)Newport News Shipbuilding and DrydockNovember 1929April 1932April 1934Sunk during surface action during the Second Battle of Bermuda, April 11th, 1943.
CSS John Y. Beall (D-30)Charleston Naval ShipyardMay 1930October 1931April 1935Sunk during an Air Raid in Norfolk, October 2nd, 1943. BU 1950

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Franklin Buchanan class Destroyer (1937)

Specifications (as originally completed as)
Weight: 1,854 long tons fully loaded
Propulsion: 2x geared steam turbine
Range: 4,900 nautical miles
Speed: 35.5 knots
Sensors: ASDIC
Armor:
  • Belt: 22mm
  • Main Deck: 16mm
  • Conning Tower: 15mm
Armament:
  • 3 x 130mm guns
  • 2 x 37mm AA guns
  • 3 x 13mm AA machine-guns
  • 8 x 533mm torpedo tubes (2 x 4)
  • 2 depth charge launchers + 1 depth charge rack + 20 depth charges
  • 40 Naval Mines
ShipBuilderLaid DownLaunchedCommissionedFate
CSS Franklin Buchanan (D-31)Fairfield Shipbuilding & Engineering Company, Govan, Scotland.May 10th, 1935July 4th, 1936January 14th, 1937Captured by the US Navy at Tampa Bay in July of 1944, sunk during Nuclear Tests in the Pacific in August of 1945.
CSS William T. Gassell (D-32)Fairfield Shipbuilding & Engineering Company, Govan, Scotland.May 22nd, 1935August 2nd, 1936January 29th, 1937Sunk by USS Lionfish, May 2nd, 1942.
CSS Clark (D-33)Gulf Shipbuilding, Chickasaw, AlabamaAugust 1935November 1936May 1937Sunk by US Navy aircraft during the Second Battle of Bermuda on April 9th, 1943.
CSS Horace L. Hunley (D-34)Gulf Shipbuilding, Chickasaw, AlabamaAugust 1935November 1936June 1937Sunk during the Battle of Berry Islands, July 8th, 1943.
CSS Edward G. Burton (D-35)Ingalls Shipbuilding, Pascagoula, MississippiOctober 1935January 1937October 1937Damaged during the Superbombing of Charleston, July 5th, 1944. Scuttled in the Atlantic, December 1948.
CSS Thomas E. Hogg (D-36)Gulf Shipbuilding, Chickasaw, AlabamaAugust 1935November 1936May 1937Sunk during the Battle off Currituck, May 26th, 1944.
CSS Ripley (D-37)Ingalls Shipbuilding, Pascagoula, MississippiOctober 1935January 1937December 1937Captured by the US Navy at Tampa Bay in July of 1944, BU 1949.
CSS Irvine Bulloch (D-38)Ingalls Shipbuilding, Pascagoula, MississippiOctober 1935January 1937December 1937Sunk during the Battle of Berry Islands, July 8th, 1943.

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George E. Pickett class Flotilla Leader (1937)

Specifications (as originally completed as)
Weight: 1,740 long tons fully loaded
Propulsion: 2x geared steam boilers
Range: 2,900 nautical miles
Speed: 37 knots
Sensors: ASDIC
Aviation Capacity: 1 Palmetto Aviation PA-61 seaplane
Armor:
  • Belt: 26mm
  • Main Deck: 22mm
  • Conning Tower: 30mm
Armament:
  • 4 x 130mm guns
  • 2 x 37mm AA guns
  • 4 x 13mm AA machine-guns
  • 6 x 550mm torpedo tubes (2 x 3)
  • 2 depth charge launchers + 20 depth charges
  • 34 Naval Mines
ShipBuilderLaid DownLaunchedCommissionedFate
CSS George E. Pickett (F-1)Ingalls Shipbuilding, Pascagoula, MississippiDecember 1934June 1936October 1937Captured by the US Navy at Tampa Bay in July of 1944, BU 1949.
CSS Raphael Semmes (F-2)Hughes Shipbuilding Corporation, Galveston, TexasFebruary 1935August 1936January 1938Sunk by US Navy Aircraft off the coast of Haiti, November 2nd, 1943.
CSS R. L. Walker (F-3)New Orleans Naval YardAugust 1936March 1937May 1939Sunk during an raid on New Orleans, June of 1944. BU 1947
CSS Wilson G. Richardson (F-4)Charleston Naval ShipyardOctober 1936July 1937August 1939Sunk during surface action during the Second Battle of Bermuda, April 11th, 1943.

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William W. J. Kelly class Destroyer (1940)

Specifications (as originally completed as)
Weight: 2,580 long tons fully loaded
Propulsion: 2x geared steam boilers
Range: 3,100 nautical miles
Speed: 37 knots
Sensors: ASDIC
Armor:
  • Belt: 29mm
  • Main Deck: 24mm
  • Conning Tower: 32mm
  • Turrets: 20mm
Armament:
  • 6 x 130mm guns
  • 2 x 37mm AA guns
  • 5 x 13mm AA machine-guns
  • 6 x 550mm torpedo tubes (2 x 3)
  • 2 depth charge launchers + 16 depth charges
ShipBuilderLaid DownLaunchedCommissionedFate
CSS William W. J. Kelly (D-39)Newport News Shipbuilding and DrydockJune 1937August 1938September 1940Sunk during the Battle off Currituck, May 26th, 1944.
CSS William H. Parker (D-40)Newport News Shipbuilding and DrydockJune 1937August 1938September 1940Sunk during the Battle of Berry Islands, July 8th, 1943.
CSS Marcus Slater (D-41)Hughes Shipbuilding Corporation, Galveston, TexasAugust 1937October 1938December 1940Scuttled in Chesapeake Bay following air attack, February 9th, 1944, Broken up in situ 1953-1962.
CSS John P. Edgar (D-42)Hughes Shipbuilding Corporation, Galveston, TexasSeptember 1937December 1938January 1941Captured by the US Navy at Tampa Bay in July of 1944, BU 1949.
CSS Wrigley (D-43)Newport News Shipbuilding and DrydockDecember 1938March 1940September 1941Sunk during the Battle off Currituck, May 26th, 1944.
CSS Stephen Mallory (D-44)Ingalls Shipbuilding, Pascagoula, MississippiNovember 1940January 1942Construction Suspended, March 1942. Broken up on slipway 1946.
D-45Ingalls Shipbuilding, Pascagoula, MississippiNovember 1940Construction Suspended, March 1942. Broken up on slipway 1946.
D-46 thru D-49Cancelled, June 1942.
 
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Here is some CSN Destroyers from the SGW era.

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Carter class Destroyer (1914)

Specifications (Following 1920s Refits)
Weight: 910 long tons fully loaded
Propulsion: 4x Triple expansion steam engines
Range: 2,000 nautical miles
Speed: 29 knots
Armor:
  • Belt: 14mm
  • Conning Tower: 12mm
Armament:
  • 1 x 105mm gun
  • 3 x 76mm guns
  • 2x 75mm AA guns
  • 2 x 7.7mm AA machine-guns
  • 6 x 450mm torpedo tubes (3 x 2)
ShipBuilderLaid DownLaunchedCommissionedFate
CSS Clifton R. Beckinridge (D-10)New Orleans Naval YardDecember 1913April 1914November 1914Sunk by USS Spearfish near Tampa Bay, February 6th, 1944.
CSS Dawson (D-11)New Orleans Naval YardDecember 1913April 1914November 1914Sunk by US Navy Aircraft in the Florida Strait, November 28th, 1944.
CSS James R. Randall (D-14)New Orleans Naval YardMay 1914September 1914February 1915Captured by the US Navy at Tampa Bay in July of 1944, BU 1945

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Truxtun class Destroyer (1926)

Specifications (as originally completed as)
Weight: 890 long tons fully loaded
Propulsion: 4x Thornycraft type boilers
Range: 1,800 nautical miles
Speed: 32 knots
Armor:
  • Belt: 15mm
  • Main Deck: 10mm
  • Conning Tower: 20mm
Armament:
  • 4 x 105mm guns
  • 2 x 75mm AA guns
  • 6 x 7.7mm AA machine-guns
  • 6 x 510mm torpedo tubes (2 x 3)
ShipBuilderLaid DownLaunchedCommissionedFate
CSS Truxtun (D-19)Ingalls Shipbuilding, Pascagoula, MississippiJune 1924July 1925August 1926Sold to Mexico as ARM Guanajanto, Summer of 1937. BU 1951
CSS Wrigley (D-20)Ingalls Shipbuilding, Pascagoula, MississippiJune 1924July 1925September 1926Sold to Mexico as ARM Durango, Summer of 1937. BU 1951
CSS Bader (D-21)New Orleans Naval YardFebruary 1925March 1926May 1927Captured by the US Navy at Tampa Bay in July of 1944, BU 1945
CSS Johnson (D-22)Ingalls Shipbuilding, Pascagoula, MississippiJune 1924July 1925September 1926Sunk by US Navy Aircraft in the Florida Strait, December 5th, 1943.
CSS Roper (D-23)New Orleans Naval YardFebruary 1925April 1926May 1927Damaged during an raid on Guantanamo Bay, June of 1944, Scuttled on June 25th, 1944.

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Tucker class Destroyer (1933)

Specifications (as originally completed as)
Weight: 1,740 long tons fully loaded
Propulsion: 3x three drum boilers
Range: 1,900 nautical miles
Speed: 33 knots
Armor:
  • Belt: 25mm
  • Main Deck: 18mm
  • Conning Tower: 20mm
Armament:
  • 4 x 130mm guns
  • 2 x 37mm AA guns
  • 4 x 13mm AA machine-guns
  • 6 x 550mm torpedo tubes (2 x 3)
  • 2 depth charge launchers + 20 depth charges
  • 60 Naval Mines
ShipsBuilderLaid DownLaunchedCommissionedFate
CSS Tucker (D-24)Ingalls Shipbuilding, Pascagoula, MississippiFebruary 1929July 1930July 1933Sunk during surface action during the Second Battle of Bermuda, April 11th, 1943.
CSS Judah P. Benjamin (D-25)Ingalls Shipbuilding, Pascagoula, MississippiFebruary 1929July 1930October 1933Sunk during the Battle off Currituck, May 26th, 1944.
CSS Anderson (D-26)Newport News Shipbuilding and DrydockNovember 1929March 1931December 1933Sunk during surface action during the Second Battle of Bermuda, April 11th, 1943.
CSS McCoy (D-27)Charleston Naval ShipyardMarch 1930August 1931September 1934Scuttled in Havana, July 14th, 1944, BU 1948.
CSS Calhoun Ruggles (D-28)Charleston Naval ShipyardMarch 1930August 1931February 1935Captured by the US Navy at Tampa Bay in July of 1944, BU 1948.
CSS Wilson G. Richardson (D-29)Newport News Shipbuilding and DrydockNovember 1929April 1932April 1934Sunk during surface action during the Second Battle of Bermuda, April 11th, 1943.
CSS John Y. Beall (D-30)Charleston Naval ShipyardMay 1930October 1931April 1935Sunk during an Air Raid in Norfolk, October 2nd, 1943. BU 1950

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Franklin Buchanan class Destroyer (1937)

Specifications (as originally completed as)
Weight: 1,854 long tons fully loaded
Propulsion: 2x geared steam turbine
Range: 4,900 nautical miles
Speed: 35.5 knots
Sensors: ASDIC
Armor:
  • Belt: 22mm
  • Main Deck: 16mm
  • Conning Tower: 15mm
Armament:
  • 3 x 130mm guns
  • 2 x 37mm AA guns
  • 3 x 13mm AA machine-guns
  • 8 x 533mm torpedo tubes (2 x 4)
  • 2 depth charge launchers + 1 depth charge rack + 20 depth charges
  • 40 Naval Mines
ShipBuilderLaid DownLaunchedCommissionedFate
CSS Franklin Buchanan (D-31)Fairfield Shipbuilding & Engineering Company, Govan, Scotland.May 10th, 1935July 4th, 1936January 14th, 1937Captured by the US Navy at Tampa Bay in July of 1944, sunk during Nuclear Tests in the Pacific in August of 1945.
CSS William T. Gassell (D-32)Fairfield Shipbuilding & Engineering Company, Govan, Scotland.May 22nd, 1935August 2nd, 1936January 29th, 1937Sunk by USS Lionfish, May 2nd, 1942.
CSS Clark (D-33)Gulf Shipbuilding, Chickasaw, AlabamaAugust 1935November 1936May 1937Sunk by US Navy aircraft during the Second Battle of Bermuda on April 9th, 1943.
CSS Horace L. Hunley (D-34)Gulf Shipbuilding, Chickasaw, AlabamaAugust 1935November 1936June 1937Sunk during the Battle of Berry Islands, July 8th, 1943.
CSS Edward G. Burton (D-35)Ingalls Shipbuilding, Pascagoula, MississippiOctober 1935January 1937October 1937Damaged during the Superbombing of Charleston, July 5th, 1944. Scuttled in the Atlantic, December 1948.
CSS Thomas E. Hogg (D-36)Gulf Shipbuilding, Chickasaw, AlabamaAugust 1935November 1936May 1937Sunk during the Battle off Currituck, May 26th, 1944.
CSS Ripley (D-37)Ingalls Shipbuilding, Pascagoula, MississippiOctober 1935January 1937December 1937Captured by the US Navy at Tampa Bay in July of 1944, BU 1949.
CSS Irvine Bulloch (D-38)Ingalls Shipbuilding, Pascagoula, MississippiOctober 1935January 1937December 1937Sunk during the Battle of Berry Islands, July 8th, 1943.

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George E. Pickett class Flotilla Leader (1937)

Specifications (as originally completed as)
Weight: 1,740 long tons fully loaded
Propulsion: 2x geared steam boilers
Range: 2,900 nautical miles
Speed: 37 knots
Sensors: ASDIC
Aviation Capacity: 1 Palmetto Aviation PA-61 seaplane
Armor:
  • Belt: 26mm
  • Main Deck: 22mm
  • Conning Tower: 30mm
Armament:
  • 4 x 130mm guns
  • 2 x 37mm AA guns
  • 4 x 13mm AA machine-guns
  • 6 x 550mm torpedo tubes (2 x 3)
  • 2 depth charge launchers + 20 depth charges
  • 34 Naval Mines
ShipBuilderLaid DownLaunchedCommissionedFate
CSS George E. Pickett (F-1)Ingalls Shipbuilding, Pascagoula, MississippiDecember 1934June 1936October 1937Captured by the US Navy at Tampa Bay in July of 1944, BU 1949.
CSS Raphael Semmes (F-2)Hughes Shipbuilding Corporation, Galveston, TexasFebruary 1935August 1936January 1938Sunk by US Navy Aircraft off the coast of Haiti, November 2nd, 1943.
CSS R. L. Walker (F-3)New Orleans Naval YardAugust 1936March 1937May 1939Sunk during an raid on New Orleans, June of 1944. BU 1947
CSS Wilson G. Richardson (F-4)Charleston Naval ShipyardOctober 1936July 1937August 1939Sunk during surface action during the Second Battle of Bermuda, April 11th, 1943.

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William W. J. Kelly class Destroyer (1940)

Specifications (as originally completed as)
Weight: 2,580 long tons fully loaded
Propulsion: 2x geared steam boilers
Range: 3,100 nautical miles
Speed: 37 knots
Sensors: ASDIC
Armor:
  • Belt: 29mm
  • Main Deck: 24mm
  • Conning Tower: 32mm
  • Turrets: 20mm
Armament:
  • 6 x 130mm guns
  • 2 x 37mm AA guns
  • 5 x 13mm AA machine-guns
  • 6 x 550mm torpedo tubes (2 x 3)
  • 2 depth charge launchers + 16 depth charges
ShipBuilderLaid DownLaunchedCommissionedFate
CSS William W. J. Kelly (D-39)Newport News Shipbuilding and DrydockJune 1937August 1938September 1940Sunk during the Battle off Currituck, May 26th, 1944.
CSS William H. Parker (D-40)Newport News Shipbuilding and DrydockJune 1937August 1938September 1940Sunk during the Battle of Berry Islands, July 8th, 1943.
CSS Marcus Slater (D-41)Hughes Shipbuilding Corporation, Galveston, TexasAugust 1937October 1938December 1940Scuttled in Chesapeake Bay following air attack, February 9th, 1944, Broken up in situ 1953-1962.
CSS John P. Edgar (D-42)Hughes Shipbuilding Corporation, Galveston, TexasSeptember 1937December 1938January 1941Captured by the US Navy at Tampa Bay in July of 1944, BU 1949.
CSS Wrigley (D-43)Newport News Shipbuilding and DrydockDecember 1938March 1940September 1941Sunk during the Battle off Currituck, May 26th, 1944.
CSS Stephen Mallory (D-44)Ingalls Shipbuilding, Pascagoula, MississippiNovember 1940January 1942Construction Suspended, March 1942. Broken up on slipway 1946.
D-45Ingalls Shipbuilding, Pascagoula, MississippiNovember 1940Construction Suspended, March 1942. Broken up on slipway 1946.
D-46 thru D-49Cancelled, June 1942.
Those Battles of Currituck and the Berry Islands must've been some decisive/crippling blows to the CS Navy. So far that's 7 for Currituck and 4 for Berry Islands respectively. Currituck must've been a mad dash for the CS Navy. From what I can tell as well, the US was liberating the Bahamas concurrently with the Berry Islands. Also from the posts, Bermuda had a larger CS Navy presence than I thought; I always thought it'd more British but considering its strategic position it going to be wholly valuable to the CS Navy as well. Do you plan on making posts going into the aforementioned naval battles in detail on the Photos thread? How many British ships were sunk at Bermuda 'cause that's a total death blow for them as well there?
 
Those Battles of Currituck and the Berry Islands must've been some decisive/crippling blows to the CS Navy. So far that's 7 for Currituck and 4 for Berry Islands respectively. Currituck must've been a mad dash for the CS Navy. From what I can tell as well, the US was liberating the Bahamas concurrently with the Berry Islands. Also from the posts, Bermuda had a larger CS Navy presence than I thought; I always thought it'd more British but considering its strategic position it going to be wholly valuable to the CS Navy as well. Do you plan on making posts going into the aforementioned naval battles in detail on the Photos thread? How many British ships were sunk at Bermuda 'cause that's a total death blow for them as well there?
I guess within the coming days I should make those posts, and for the Battle off Currituck, I had based it off the Battle of Surigao Strait, which was the final battleship on battleship confrontation in Naval History.
 
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Virginia class Heavy Cruiser (1934)

Specifications (as originally completed)
Weight: 13,000 long tons fully loaded
Propulsion: 8 x steam boilers boilers
Range: 6,000 nautical miles
Speed: 32 knots
Aviation Capacity: 3 Palmetto Aviation PA-61 seaplanes, 2 catapults
Armor:
  • Belt: 60mm
  • Main Deck: 35mm
  • Turrets: 30mm
  • Conning Tower: 45mm
Armament:
  • 8 x 8 in guns
  • 8 x 100mm AA guns
  • 8 x 37mm AA guns
  • 12 x 13mm AA machine-guns
ShipBuilderLaid DownLaunchedCommissionedFate
CSS Virginia (A-17)New Orleans Naval YardNovember 5th, 1931June 4th, 1932December 1st, 1934Sunk by US Navy aircraft during the Second Battle of Bermuda on April 9th, 1943.
CSS Georgia (A-18)New Orleans Naval YardFebruary 11th, 1932August 28th, 1932March 10th, 1935Captured by the US Navy at Tampa Bay in July of 1944, sunk during Nuclear Tests in the Pacific in August of 1945.
CSS North Carolina (A-19)Charleston Naval ShipyardFebruary 26th, 1932July 14th, 1932April 30th, 1935Sunk during the Battle of Berry Islands, July 8th, 1943.

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Alabama class Heavy Cruiser (1938)

Specifications (as originally completed as)
Weight: 13,700 long tons fully loaded
Propulsion: 6 x forced circulation boilers
Range: 8,700 nautical miles
Speed: 33 knots
Aviation Capacity: 3 Taylorcraft TC-37 seaplanes, 1 catapult
Armor:
  • Belt: 98mm
  • Main Deck: 80mm
  • Turrets: 90mm
  • Conning Tower: 95mm
Armament:
  • 8 x 8 in guns
  • 6 x 100mm AA guns
  • 8 x 37mm AA guns
  • 12 x 13mm AA machine-guns
ShipBuilderLaid DownLaunchedCommissionedFate
CSS Alabama (A-20)Newport News Shipbuilding and DrydockSeptember 1st, 1935April 5th, 1937July 3rd, 1938Sunk during the Battle off Currituck, May 26th, 1944.
CSS Tennessee (A-21)Charleston Naval ShipyardSeptember 11th, 1935May 4th, 1937July 19th, 1938Sunk near the Faroe Islands by U-122, December 14th, 1941.
CSS Texas (A-22)Newport News Shipbuilding and DrydockMarch 20th, 1936October 20th, 1938May 1st, 1939Sunk during the Battle off Currituck, May 26th, 1944.
If i recall correctly, there was a Confederate heavy cruiser at Newport News when it was superbombed, mentioned when Jake the Snake was emerging from the radio station, so I would think that would be fate for at least one.
 
Honesty, on the whole confederate navy situation, I think that this is overestimating both the souths ability to produce large warships and their willingness to. Germany, which had a greater industrial capacity than Featherston's Confederacy, as well as much greater incentive to build warships (cutting Britain off from trade) only constructed 4 battleships and 3 heavy cruisers during the time of Hitler's chancellorship. Meanwhile, you've given the South three battleships (of a larger and more capable design than anything the Germans made in the period), 6 heavy cruisers, and 8 light cruisers. Really, the Confederate Navy under Featherston would be a rather cash and resource strapped institution, with the means that would build those ships going towards the Army and Air Force instead. I think the CSN would be more likely to be made up largely of squadrons of motor torpedo boats, minelayers, escort ships, and submarines, with the addition of some larger ships the navy begged, borrowed, and stole to acquire so that they could have some offensive fleet units and not be the only passive branch of the Confederate military.
 
Honesty, on the whole confederate navy situation, I think that this is overestimating both the souths ability to produce large warships and their willingness to. Germany, which had a greater industrial capacity than Featherston's Confederacy, as well as much greater incentive to build warships (cutting Britain off from trade) only constructed 4 battleships and 3 heavy cruisers during the time of Hitler's chancellorship. Meanwhile, you've given the South three battleships (of a larger and more capable design than anything the Germans made in the period), 6 heavy cruisers, and 8 light cruisers. Really, the Confederate Navy under Featherston would be a rather cash and resource strapped institution, with the means that would build those ships going towards the Army and Air Force instead. I think the CSN would be more likely to be made up largely of squadrons of motor torpedo boats, minelayers, escort ships, and submarines, with the addition of some larger ships the navy begged, borrowed, and stole to acquire so that they could have some offensive fleet units and not be the only passive branch of the Confederate military.
Hitler didn't contribute much to Naval construction because
A: the needs of the ground war demanded the largest allocation of resources and
B: Germany has never been a major maritime power in any case: the High Seas Fleet was more an aberration born of the Kaiser's desire to one-up the UK.

Not to mention the CSA has advantages the Kaiser and Hitler could never have dreamed of:
1: The Nigh-unlimited resources of a country that controlled more land than all of Western Europe (with Texas alone the CSA would certainly never want for oil the way Germany did, for example)
2: a Two-Ocean trade sphere that would demand protecting in a philosophy that, if not Mahanian, would certainly dictate the assets for a two-ocean navy
3: Overseas possessions right on their doorstep in Cuba and their Caribbean holdings that, again, need protecting
4: Cooperation with the British and French navies to maintain trade spheres and interdict Central powers shipping: the UK can keep the German Navy bottled up in the Baltic, But the US navy and the USA's regional allies would still need to be matched.

While Mid-late war construction would certainly be curtailed by lack of manpower, over the course of the books, THAT is really the oft-commented defining factor behind the CSA's defeat, not any lack of resources. Pre-war construction could certainly give the CSN some fresh capitol ship firepower.

not to mention, iirc in the American Empire trilogy Sam Carsten comments that the CSA was stripped of her Battleships and Heavy cruisers after the First Great War, so at the very least the CSN at one point HAD Dreanoughts and the like, and thus had the means to build battleships, or at least service and maintain them.

Mind you, i do agree with you to a point: my take on the CSN has them buying Battleships from the French, while the largest ships they build are Heavy Cruisers akin to the Graf Spee, as well as an unfinished attempt at an Aircraft Carrier.

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Hitler didn't contribute much to Naval construction because
A: the needs of the ground war demanded the largest allocation of resources and
B: Germany has never been a major maritime power in any case: the High Seas Fleet was more an aberration born of the Kaiser's desire to one-up the UK.
Sort of. Germany was a major maritime power in the first half of the 20th Century because, yes the Kaiser demanded it, and also because the strategic situation they found themselves in in their chosen course demanded it. They needed naval strength to engage the French, let alone the British, else their coast would have been vulnerable. Hitler DID in fact contribute a lot towards naval construction, but this was partly because of his (to be fair, less than Kaiser Wilhelm) love of big, impressive weapons, and also because he was smart enough to recognize that cutting off Britain from raw materials was the most effective way to defeat them.


Not to mention the CSA has advantages the Kaiser and Hitler could never have dreamed of:
1: The Nigh-unlimited resources of a country that controlled more land than all of Western Europe (with Texas alone the CSA would certainly never want for oil the way Germany did, for example)
Not really accurate. The advantage in oil is the one real advantage the CSA has over Germany. Other than that, the Confederates are not as well off. Their raw materials in the naval sphere are roughly equivalent, and most crucially, their industrial capacity is below that of Germany. Even with Featherston's push to mechanize his country, and the 70 years of independence requiring the development of infrastructure that the American South did not get until the 60s OTL, the South is still, up until the 30s, an agrarian country. They are not the OTL United States, not are they the TTL United States. If anything, they are more similar to a continental version of Japan in terms of the interplay between industrial development and rural life. Moreover, the key phrase there is "more land than all of Western Europe". They also have a huge land border with a powerful enemy. Unlike Japan, they have a more pressing need to devote resources to the army. The CS Navy cannot defeat the USA. It can't even hinder it, really, as the USA is almost an autarky. The CSN is a defensive weapon at its best, and a wasteful extravagance at its worst.
2: a Two-Ocean trade sphere that would demand protecting in a philosophy that, if not Mahanian, would certainly dictate the assets for a two-ocean navy
Only partially correct. They have NO trade in the Pacific in wartime. Who are they going to trade with that cannot be easily interdicted by USN ships simply moseying down from San Diego. Moreover, they have only one port worth the name, and its one that is easily blockaded, and highly vulnerable to being captured, even if temporarily. And in the Atlantic, their best bet is to play a distantly second fiddle to the Royal Navy. Again, the Confederates have a vital imperative towards being a LAND power, which is dictated by simple survival, a much higher dictate on the pyramid of needs.
3: Overseas possessions right on their doorstep in Cuba and their Caribbean holdings that, again, need protecting
Protecting that can be done without expensive offensive fleet units. The Gulf can be made into a Confederate lake with the simple expedient of naval strike aircraft based in Florida and Cuba, along with submarines. And not even oceangoing submarines, but just small coastal submarines with limited range. Adding Haiti and the Bahamas to that simply makes it even more difficult for USN ships to get in there.


4: Cooperation with the British and French navies to maintain trade spheres and interdict Central powers shipping: the UK can keep the German Navy bottled up in the Baltic, But the US navy and the USA's regional allies would still need to be matched.
There wouldn't be any Central Powers shipping anymore than there was in the first war. The Royal Navy would be once again bottling the Kasierliche Marine up in the North Sea. I recall Sam Carsten hearing about this several times, including the British winning a decisive victory over a battleship heavy High Seas Fleet. The only time we encounter a German warship is the U-Boat that delivered the superbomb research to the Josephus Daniels. The US certainly doesn't need to trade with anyone, and the British and French control the outlets to the Mediterranean. The only place that the US would be needing overseas supply lines is to the Sandwich Islands, and that's the preserve of the IJN and whatever fleet subs the CSN has,
 
Sort of. Germany was a major maritime power in the first half of the 20th Century because, yes the Kaiser demanded it, and also because the strategic situation they found themselves in in their chosen course demanded it. They needed naval strength to engage the French, let alone the British, else their coast would have been vulnerable. Hitler DID in fact contribute a lot towards naval construction, but this was partly because of his (to be fair, less than Kaiser Wilhelm) love of big, impressive weapons, and also because he was smart enough to recognize that cutting off Britain from raw materials was the most effective way to defeat them.



Not really accurate. The advantage in oil is the one real advantage the CSA has over Germany. Other than that, the Confederates are not as well off. Their raw materials in the naval sphere are roughly equivalent, and most crucially, their industrial capacity is below that of Germany. Even with Featherston's push to mechanize his country, and the 70 years of independence requiring the development of infrastructure that the American South did not get until the 60s OTL, the South is still, up until the 30s, an agrarian country. They are not the OTL United States, not are they the TTL United States. If anything, they are more similar to a continental version of Japan in terms of the interplay between industrial development and rural life. Moreover, the key phrase there is "more land than all of Western Europe". They also have a huge land border with a powerful enemy. Unlike Japan, they have a more pressing need to devote resources to the army. The CS Navy cannot defeat the USA. It can't even hinder it, really, as the USA is almost an autarky. The CSN is a defensive weapon at its best, and a wasteful extravagance at its worst.

Only partially correct. They have NO trade in the Pacific in wartime. Who are they going to trade with that cannot be easily interdicted by USN ships simply moseying down from San Diego. Moreover, they have only one port worth the name, and its one that is easily blockaded, and highly vulnerable to being captured, even if temporarily. And in the Atlantic, their best bet is to play a distantly second fiddle to the Royal Navy. Again, the Confederates have a vital imperative towards being a LAND power, which is dictated by simple survival, a much higher dictate on the pyramid of needs.

Protecting that can be done without expensive offensive fleet units. The Gulf can be made into a Confederate lake with the simple expedient of naval strike aircraft based in Florida and Cuba, along with submarines. And not even oceangoing submarines, but just small coastal submarines with limited range. Adding Haiti and the Bahamas to that simply makes it even more difficult for USN ships to get in there.



There wouldn't be any Central Powers shipping anymore than there was in the first war. The Royal Navy would be once again bottling the Kasierliche Marine up in the North Sea. I recall Sam Carsten hearing about this several times, including the British winning a decisive victory over a battleship heavy High Seas Fleet. The only time we encounter a German warship is the U-Boat that delivered the superbomb research to the Josephus Daniels. The US certainly doesn't need to trade with anyone, and the British and French control the outlets to the Mediterranean. The only place that the US would be needing overseas supply lines is to the Sandwich Islands, and that's the preserve of the IJN and whatever fleet subs the CSN has,
The British and French also have trade routes from South America and Africa, in particular Argentina, that need protecting. This is mentioned in the books multiple times in both Great Wars. The CSA, as per the terms of their alliance with these powers, would need to maintain some capitol ship presence to aid in protecting these routes, not to mention the need to simply stop US capitol ships from "moseying" on down to liberally bombard CS coastal cities, as we saw them do in the opening of the 2nd great War with their carrier attack on Charleston that killed Anne Colleton. Not to mention the Germans would have had an active trade partner in the US, and the UK would have had a hostile North America to contend with as well as the Germans, meaning she wouldn't be able to dedicate the bulk of her forces to keeping the Germans contained.

Furthermore, in "Drive to the East" Sam Carsten comments that the CSN had Oceangoing units operating in the 1st great War and in the ongoing 2nd Great War, so there's Author declaration right there: the CSA has naval units of at least the capability to operate in open ocean, which require, among other things, the fuel capacity to maintain such movements, ergo, large vessels, IE Cruisers and Battleships. especially since unlike the Pacific the Atlantic suffers a deficit of islands upon which to establish fueling bases to support smaller vessels.
Real-life naval history shows forthright that a fleet of torpedo boats and light craft aren't enough to stop a modern capitol ship fleet, the CSN would need SOME heavy units simply to protect their home waters. The Germans saw this sort of thing in the late 19th century, even before the Kaiser got starry-eyed about a battleship fleet.

As for German naval units, literally the first scene in the first Great War novel has George Enos Sr.'s fishing boat encountering a German cruiser after war flames had already been ignited. SOME High Seas fleet assets were operating outside the Baltic. The US, for their part, has to keep their naval route between the Atlantic and Pacific open (no Panama Canal) and support their South American allies, ala Chile and Peru. Ergo, there most certainly IS Central Powers shipping in the open ocean.

On the subject of CSA assets and resources, i feel it's worth pointing out that the CSA was able to go on building advanced technical systems like their Rockets right up until the factories themselves were overrun by advancing US troops, and were able to keep supplying and equipping their troops up to the end as well, to say nothing of constructing a functional atomic device in less time and with fewer engineers and assets than the USA, who had help from the Germans and many more physicists. the CSA's weakness has always been population, not resources. Featherston's refusal to use black slave laborers the way Hitler used Jews only hurt him in that he needed to keep more bodies away from the front lines. Not to mention Featherston spent the better part of the 1930's increasing the CSA's industrial assets on top of what they already possessed.
 
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So going by the idea that the individual states of the Confederacy eventually regaining independence sometime down the line. I'd imagine that WW2 Finnish uniforms would be a pretty good representation of what what would be typical for standard issue. Using hand me down Union uniforms died in cheap grey or other inexpensive colors, while being equipped with weaponry that their grandfather's would have used in the first Great War.
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So going by the idea that the individual states of the Confederacy eventually regaining independence sometime down the line. I'd imagine that WW2 Finnish uniforms would be a pretty good representation of what what would be typical for standard issue. Using hand me down Union uniforms died in cheap grey or other inexpensive colors, while being equipped with weaponry that their grandfather's would have used in the first Great War.
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I could see this for the Republic of Texas. I doubt that the Union would allow any of the rest of the former CSA to break away ever again, Texas got lucky that it got to maintain its independence . I could see a (or several) War(s) between Texas and Mexico in the Cold War years. Maybe the Germans or Brazilians (who look to be becoming the leader of South America) prop up a Third Mexican Empire after the (Third/Fourth?) Mexican republic falls into Civil War. This Third Empire might seek to restore Tejas triggering a Brushfire War when Berlin makes it clear that direct American Interference would lead to Germany getting involved.
 
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