TL-191: Featherston's Finest - Uniforms, Weapons, and Vehicles of the CSA and Freedom Party

[Soundwave3591]

I have actually been mulling over this recently. One of the main issues I find with the Freedom Party from a literary standpoint is that they aren't nearly as compelling villains as the Nazis. Their Southern Fried Fascism is more boring by comparison, mainly because Jake the Snake is sort of like a record player with a fixed record. He has a few tunes he plays, and thats it. The CSA has cool weapons, and some cool outfits (adding a bit of cowboy and Waffen-SS to the WWII American look). But they signally lack the deeper Romantic Nationalist ideology that makes Nazi iconography and ideology so interesting as antagonists. The Nazis had an institutional attachment to Germanic pagan symbology, but the Freedom Party is far more pragmatic. Like Communists without the communism.

I think that's part of the issue: the CSA (and post-1776 America as a whole, really) lacks that deep mythology of centuries that the Nazis taped Swastikas all over to justify themselves. Let's not forget that the USA was not yet 200 years old, the CSA not even 100. Folks in North America don't have that same lore and legend to draw upon. Revolutionary Mythos, the Founding Fathers and so forth, only carries so far, and is tainted by connection to the Yankees.

on the Political side, Featherston used the pre-existing Democratic system of the CSA and a few creative liberties (both on his part and the Author's) to give himself dictatorial powers. the CSA, for all its issues post-GW1, never really dropped into the miasma of Political Turmoil, economic free fall, debauchery and hedonism that 1920's Germany dropped into. the Hyperinflation that ransacked Germany's economy was bad enough, but on a scale of a nation like the CSA? there's really no way it could have recovered. Harry never really explored the political side of the CSA once Featherston became El Presidente/Herr Fuhrer, so we don't really know if the CSA's government operated like the 3rd Reich politcally.

A more comparable mentality for the CSA might be the post-1871 Revanchism that swept France after the Franco-Prussian War, the spirit of "REVENGE!" that drove them to the military strength that led them to WWI. not as deep as Nazism, but it's something that fits the mood, and ties them ever more to France.

 

[cortz#9]

I think that's part of the issue: the CSA (and post-1776 America as a whole, really) lacks that deep mythology of centuries that the Nazis taped Swastikas all over to justify themselves. Let's not forget that the USA was not yet 200 years old, the CSA not even 100. Folks in North America don't have that same lore and legend to draw upon. Revolutionary Mythos, the Founding Fathers and so forth, only carries so far, and is tainted by connection to the Yankees.

on the Political side, Featherston used the pre-existing Democratic system of the CSA and a few creative liberties (both on his part and the Author's) to give himself dictatorial powers. the CSA, for all its issues post-GW1, never really dropped into the miasma of Political Turmoil, economic free fall, debauchery and hedonism that 1920's Germany dropped into. the Hyperinflation that ransacked Germany's economy was bad enough, but on a scale of a nation like the CSA? there's really no way it could have recovered. Harry never really explored the political side of the CSA once Featherston became El Presidente/Herr Fuhrer, so we don't really know if the CSA's government operated like the 3rd Reich politcally.

A more comparable mentality for the CSA might be the post-1871 Revanchism that swept France after the Franco-Prussian War, the spirit of "REVENGE!" that drove them to the military strength that led them to WWI. not as deep as Nazism, but it's something that fits the mood, and ties them ever more to France.

Featherston always reminded me of the Latin and South American dictators who slightly copied the Nazis, like Jaun Peron's Argentina but with Dixie thrown in to boot.

 

[pattontank12]

The fact that Nazi Germany also tailored its fair share of kepis also makes it logical to retain that particular piece of headgear, at least for the Confederate States of America (one might also suggest that the French Alliance helped keep Francophile military fashions front and centre to boot); I do suspect that metal cap badges would be removed for the duration of the conflict thought (and I do tend to agree that the Union uniform would benefit from a little alt-history twist to help make it just different enough to be memorable).

Having said that I have been more than favourably impressed by the artwork posted here and it would be extremely unfair of me to pretend otherwise!

I could see something similarly to this particular variant of the forage cap still being warn during the First Great War and later by early Freedom Party.

In the book, the imagery evoked is, from what i gathered, SS uniforms in CSA gray. Rhode Island State Police uniforms seem to fit the imagery better:

I'm not going to lie when I first saw it I thought "fascist mounties".

I agree. I always pictured the US wearing Americanized versions of German uniforms, as the WWII pattern from real life dates from...well, WWII .

a good approximation i've found is Bundeswehr uniforms from the 1950's:

I'd also like to suggest the East German military for the US...

 

[Polish Eagle]

I think that's part of the issue: the CSA (and post-1776 America as a whole, really) lacks that deep mythology of centuries that the Nazis taped Swastikas all over to justify themselves. Let's not forget that the USA was not yet 200 years old, the CSA not even 100. Folks in North America don't have that same lore and legend to draw upon. Revolutionary Mythos, the Founding Fathers and so forth, only carries so far, and is tainted by connection to the Yankees.

They could always invent stupid bullshit, the way the Nazis invented a connection to ancient Tibet and crackpot theories like ‘Ice World Doctrine.’ Draw on the ‘original Americans’ thing, play up their Anglo-French descent and contrast it with the racial mongrelization of the US (“Papist Irish, German barbarians, dirty wops,” etc). Then you can layer on stupid bullshit—the ancient Britons are descended from Atlantis! Muh knights of the holy grail!

The problems with that, though, are that even IOTL those only appealed to a small fraction even of the Nazis and that the CS, presumably, has a lower literacy rate than Germany, so such things would be fringe ideas at best.

 

[S. Marlowski]

Perhaps this is what makes them "stand out", when comparing it to real-life Nazi mythology. There could be some regional flavor to their symbolism and "lore", depending on the state. The impression I got from the Confederacy's connection to British and French culture is that it is more superficial than a deep dive into it.

Less is more, in this case.

It may be boring, as you say, but the alternative could be too much to suspend your disbelief. At least to me, it would.

I could see the more Fundementalist Neo-Freedomites holding the belief that the Anglo-Saxons are descended from the Ancient Israelites, and viewing the Germans and the Yankees as the descendants of the Edomites

 

[Sierra]

They could always invent stupid bullshit, the way the Nazis invented a connection to ancient Tibet and crackpot theories like ‘Ice World Doctrine.’ Draw on the ‘original Americans’ thing, play up their Anglo-French descent and contrast it with the racial mongrelization of the US (“Papist Irish, German barbarians, dirty wops,” etc). Then you can layer on stupid bullshit—the ancient Britons are descended from Atlantis! Muh knights of the holy grail!

I've actually considered that. Something of an adopted Anglo-Celtic mythology developing in the south prior to and after WWI (similar to how Romantic Nationalism was popular in Germany). A noble, brave, white race defending civilization from the hordes form the North. You see shades of this in American Front, when Woodrow Wilson shows up at Anne Colleton's art show, and they refer repeatedly to the CSA representing civilization, and the USA and Germany representing brute reaction against progress. (An ironic contradiction for the CSA, which prides itself on tradition)

You can also add some early 20th Century "scientific racism" theories that could possibly have informed the opinions of more educated Confederates, and maybe some of the more intelligent among Jake Featherston's inner circle, who might then influence him more. An example being the 1916 book "The Passing of the Great Race", which, while written by a New York OTL, has exactly the sort of drivel that such people would eat up. It divided Europeans into three "races": Nordics (Soldiers! Adventurers! Explorers! Rulers!), Mediterraneans (Physically the least, but superior mentally to the other two, and the leaders in the arts and philosophy) and the Alpines ("essentially peasant in character"). The author latched on to other theories, and opined that the great civilizations of classical antiquity, like the Roman Empire, and the Greek city states, with their mixture of law, military efficiency, philosophy, and art were nly possible by mixing the superior Nordic stock (from northern Europe, Scandinavia, and the British Isles) with the Mediterraneans.

So, according to him the US had always been of "superior Nordic stock" which was being degenerates by mixture with lesser peoples. This might especially be applicable to the south, which had always been vast majority Anglo-Celtic in heritage, an worked to keep it that way through Reconstruction. HE even, during WWI, reclassified the Germans in a new edition of his book from being mostly Nordic in heritage to mostly Alpine, and increased the amount of Nordic in the French, to make the allies look like superior races.

Now, combine this with a lot of the imagery and notions of the Second Ku Klux Klan. Now you have a southern ideology that takes elements from this "race theory" as well as imagery of the Knights of the Round table and such, and casts the CSA as defending true white culture against the degenerate Yankee hordes (They're mostly inferior races anyway, aren't they, with all those people immigrating there from eastern and southern Europe?")

 

[S. Marlowski]

I've actually considered that. Something of an adopted Anglo-Celtic mythology developing in the south prior to and after WWI (similar to how Romantic Nationalism was popular in Germany). A noble, brave, white race defending civilization from the hordes form the North. You see shades of this in American Front, when Woodrow Wilson shows up at Anne Colleton's art show, and they refer repeatedly to the CSA representing civilization, and the USA and Germany representing brute reaction against progress. (An ironic contradiction for the CSA, which prides itself on tradition)

You can also add some early 20th Century "scientific racism" theories that could possibly have informed the opinions of more educated Confederates, and maybe some of the more intelligent among Jake Featherston's inner circle, who might then influence him more. An example being the 1916 book "The Passing of the Great Race", which, while written by a New York OTL, has exactly the sort of drivel that such people would eat up. It divided Europeans into three "races": Nordics (Soldiers! Adventurers! Explorers! Rulers!), Mediterraneans (Physically the least, but superior mentally to the other two, and the leaders in the arts and philosophy) and the Alpines ("essentially peasant in character"). The author latched on to other theories, and opined that the great civilizations of classical antiquity, like the Roman Empire, and the Greek city states, with their mixture of law, military efficiency, philosophy, and art were nly possible by mixing the superior Nordic stock (from northern Europe, Scandinavia, and the British Isles) with the Mediterraneans.

So, according to him the US had always been of "superior Nordic stock" which was being degenerates by mixture with lesser peoples. This might especially be applicable to the south, which had always been vast majority Anglo-Celtic in heritage, an worked to keep it that way through Reconstruction. HE even, during WWI, reclassified the Germans in a new edition of his book from being mostly Nordic in heritage to mostly Alpine, and increased the amount of Nordic in the French, to make the allies look like superior races.

Now, combine this with a lot of the imagery and notions of the Second Ku Klux Klan. Now you have a southern ideology that takes elements from this "race theory" as well as imagery of the Knights of the Round table and such, and casts the CSA as defending true white culture against the degenerate Yankee hordes (They're mostly inferior races anyway, aren't they, with all those people immigrating there from eastern and southern Europe?")

Good points there along with my earlier point about some Freedomites adopting the notion that the Anglo-Saxon Americans along with the English and French are the descendants of the 12 lost tribes of Israel and that the Germans and the Yankees are the descendants of the Edomites.

 

[S. Marlowski]

An image of one of the last remaining Confederate M1944 "Copperpot" submachine-guns in existence from the collection of Ian McCollum

In mid 1943, the Confederate High Command realized that the Union Army was closing in on their territory, thus would form the National Assault Force as a means to defend the South from the Yankee Hordes. Along the way, a development process for a last ditch SMG would be made, which the intentions was that it was going to be easily and cheaply built in garages and in small workshops, easy to operate, and easy to maintain. The ultimate design chosen was made by a Confederate Army Major named Augustus Copperpot, who was a Confederate Army mechanic who built his prototype in garage in a mere 2 hours. The gun was then tested and approved for mass production. As hoped, the M1944 SMG would be built in garages, village workshops, and in blacksmith shops, which were far away from known industrial centers. It is estimated that about 195,000 to 242,000 Copperpots were produced, most of them would arm the National Assault Force with others arming the Confederate Army, in which they would use them in a futile effort to defend the Confederacy from the Union Army. When the war ended, most of these guns would be destroyed as very few Union soldiers would take them as souvenirs as they looked cruder than the more desirable Griswold SMGs. Many of them would be melted down to help rebuild the ruined south, while others would be cut up and buried, and there was even one documented instances of about 1,000 M1944s being dumped into the Gulf of Mexico by the USN. Today, about 100 Copperpots are still known to exist, with 67 of them in private collections, and as such, they have become sought after and would often fetch a high dollar price in firearms auctions. The last M1944 sold was back in October of 2019 for a whopping $94,675, which about 10,000 times over the original unit cost which was $10 Confederate Dollars.

 

[S. Marlowski]

One of the rare examples of the Confederate Improvised Rifle called the Schofield rifle, which was built around a simplified Tredegar bolt-action rifle receiver, along with a modified aircraft machine-gun barrel, a simple wooden stock, and a simplified magazine. These rifles were designed by the Schofield Motor Company, which was a small company from the Jackson Mississippi Region of the Confederacy. Throughout the final months of the war, this model of rifle was manufactured at the Schofield Motor Plant, in which components would be produced by several sub-contractors. In total, 24,241 rifles would be produced, in which these would be issued to the soldiers of the National Assault Force in the Mississippi and Alabama regions of the Confederate during the nation's dying days.

A rare example of another improvised rifle, this time being an Anderson rifle or officially the M1944 rifle, from the collection of the National Museum of the US Army. The Anderson rifle would be first conceived in late 1943 as a cheap rifle to arm the National Assault Force, though the rifle was designed by the Tredegar Steel Works, a majority of the parts would be built by many sub-contractors through North Carolina and in Virginia. These would also arm the soldiers of the National Assault Force, with between 109,000 and 120,000 rifles made, with most of the guns being distributed to soldiers in Virginia while others being sent to North Carolina. The rifle's unofficial name, Anderson, was the surname of one of the chief engineers of the Tredegar company, Ernest Anderson, who interestingly was one of the chief engineers behind the M1938 battle rifle. Like the Schofield Rifle, not many examples of the Anderson rifle survived to the present day at all.

A photograph of the known sole surviving example of a complete Harrington Light Machine Gun, courtesy from the Cody Firearms Museum. In October of 1943, the Confederate Army would order a specification for a new light machine gun as a cheaper alternative to the M41 Ripper. One of the alternatives to be built was the M1944 Harrington, which was developed by an engineer named Joe Harrington from New Orleans. The LMG was designed to be a simple and cheap weapon to manufacture, which like the Copperpot, was to built in small workshops and in garages. However, only around 1,000 guns were produced, and after the cessation of hostilities, most ended up getting scrapped or destroyed. Two more Harringtons are still known to exist, but the one in the Tredegar Museum and the one at the Museum of the United States Army both have missing parts.

 

[James Ricker]

The thing about the last ditch Confederate firearms was they were never intended to be quality weapons and due to the varying conditions of their manufacturing facilities and material shortages in the last year of the war, many were not built to the standards originally specified.
The Schofield was a usable rifle but due to its rather stiff bolt troops preferred surplus bolt-action rifles from the first Great War. The Anderson rifle was actually pretty reliable and well liked by those who used it. As for the Harrington light machine gun the less said about it the better.
The Copper Pot's reputation for unreliability was overblown. Due to its low powered cartridge it was more reliable than many last-ditch weapons. Unfortunately being a submachine gun it was necessary to get close to the enemy, at those ranges a weapon malfunction usually proved fatal to the user.

 

[Allochronian]

I've actually considered that. Something of an adopted Anglo-Celtic mythology developing in the south prior to and after WWI (similar to how Romantic Nationalism was popular in Germany). A noble, brave, white race defending civilization from the hordes form the North. You see shades of this in American Front, when Woodrow Wilson shows up at Anne Colleton's art show, and they refer repeatedly to the CSA representing civilization, and the USA and Germany representing brute reaction against progress. (An ironic contradiction for the CSA, which prides itself on tradition)

You can also add some early 20th Century "scientific racism" theories that could possibly have informed the opinions of more educated Confederates, and maybe some of the more intelligent among Jake Featherston's inner circle, who might then influence him more. An example being the 1916 book "The Passing of the Great Race", which, while written by a New York OTL, has exactly the sort of drivel that such people would eat up. It divided Europeans into three "races": Nordics (Soldiers! Adventurers! Explorers! Rulers!), Mediterraneans (Physically the least, but superior mentally to the other two, and the leaders in the arts and philosophy) and the Alpines ("essentially peasant in character"). The author latched on to other theories, and opined that the great civilizations of classical antiquity, like the Roman Empire, and the Greek city states, with their mixture of law, military efficiency, philosophy, and art were nly possible by mixing the superior Nordic stock (from northern Europe, Scandinavia, and the British Isles) with the Mediterraneans.

So, according to him the US had always been of "superior Nordic stock" which was being degenerates by mixture with lesser peoples. This might especially be applicable to the south, which had always been vast majority Anglo-Celtic in heritage, an worked to keep it that way through Reconstruction. HE even, during WWI, reclassified the Germans in a new edition of his book from being mostly Nordic in heritage to mostly Alpine, and increased the amount of Nordic in the French, to make the allies look like superior races.

Now, combine this with a lot of the imagery and notions of the Second Ku Klux Klan. Now you have a southern ideology that takes elements from this "race theory" as well as imagery of the Knights of the Round table and such, and casts the CSA as defending true white culture against the degenerate Yankee hordes (They're mostly inferior races anyway, aren't they, with all those people immigrating there from eastern and southern Europe?")

Your mention of Scientific Racism reminds me of a post that I've thought about writing. While those type of theories had some popularity and legal precedent in the United States in OTL, I specifically thought about how Evolution would be received by the Confederate population. In general, Evolution is seen as a "godless science" mostly in the CSA and it is not taught at all in general schools, except for maybe in universities.

It's only when Featherston is elected president that he decides to use evolution as a tool to justify the "inherent inferiority" of Blacks and makes it compulsory for every Confederate school to teach it. I can see a lot of propaganda being made and successfully persuasive.

Even after the SGW is over many years later, I can see how some of the surviving Black Confederates, most of which now live secular lives after having their faith brutally broken, are still hesitant to accept evolution as something that is true.

 

[S. Marlowski]

Another Last Ditch Confederate SMG, this one is basically a TZ-45 of OTL with a different name.

In October of 1943, the Confederate Military began to investigate a possible cheaper alternative to the Griswold submachine-gun for it's Regular Army, the answer came in the form of a submission from the Mobile Naval Arsenal in the form of the Smith Gun (alternatively the Mobile Arsenal). The Smith Gun was developed by a worker named Archibald Smith, who produced a prototype gun using materials at the shipyard. The weapon would soon be adopted into service and would be produced the Mobile Naval Arsenal, Stinson Arms Company in New Orleans, and the Schofield Motor Company, as well as many of the weapon's components being built by many subcontractors. Like with many of the Confederacy's Last Ditch weapons, the Mobile Arsenal would never save the Confederacy from ultimate defeat. In March of 1944, the Mobile Naval Arsenal would be bombed by the Union, thus ending production of the Smith Gun there. Currently, only a handful of these Smith guns are still known to be in existence, two being at the Cody Firearms Museum and one at a Museum in Jackson with seven more being in private hands.

When the Tredegar Rifle entered service with the Confederate Army, the Army Ordnance Board would order a variant chambered for .22 Long Rifle to serve as a training rifle. This rifle would be known as the Wyatt M1910, which was named after Lieutenant John Wyatt, an officer from the Ordnance Board. After the 1st Great War, the rifle would remain in production, and many Tredegars would be converted into this format of training rifle. After the rise of the Freedom Party, the Party would encourage target shooting programs to the public. As a result, thousands of the Wyatt rifles would be manufactured to serve in this role as a training rifle for these Military Competition Shoots. When war broke out, production of the Wyatt Rifle would be terminated as there were more than enough rifles to use to trainer new soldiers available. Union soldiers commonly take these .22 training rifles as souvenirs and would use them as squirrel guns.

 

[Soundwave3591]

My own take on the CSA's Tredager Auto-rifle so often mentioned in the books. I went for a sort of cross between various French Auto Rifles and the Enfield Jungle Carbine in design.

 

[Rorke]

It's Tredegar, not Tredager

 

[Soundwave3591]

I could see the more Fundementalist Neo-Freedomites holding the belief that the Anglo-Saxons are descended from the Ancient Israelites, and viewing the Germans and the Yankees as the descendants of the Edomites

I could see them playing up the image of the Germans as Barbarians, and commenting on their influence on the USA as an extension of that. They'd definitely make a lot of noise about the US being a "mongrel" nation with all the immigration.

 

[S. Marlowski]

Now for some of the Capital Ships of the Confederate Navy

CSS Jefferson Davis class Battleship.
In 1936, President Jacob Featherson as part of the modernization of the Confederate Armed Forces would order new classes of warships for the Confederate Navy, including two battleships of the Jefferson Davis class. After about two months of designing, the final design for the class consisted of a new turbine powerplant, aviation storage place in the midships, as for armament, there were 3 16' guns for each of the main gun turrets along with two turrets of 6' guns and numerous smaller caliber AA guns. In all, the class weighed in at a total of 49,000 tons fully loaded. The first ship, Jefferson Davis, was launched in May of 1940 with President Featherson heading the ceremony. The second ship, CSS Robert E. Lee was launched in October of 1940 with it being completed in August of 1941 and commissioned the following month. The Davis would be fully completed with the fitting out by January of 1941 and entering full service in June of 1941, just in time for it to take part in the Invasion of the Bahamas, where it bombarded the weak Union forces there. The CSS Jefferson Davis would subsequently take part in several Confederate Naval Operations including a bombardment of Union positions along the coast of Delaware. The Davis would meet it's end following it's engagement and destruction of the Union Battlecruiser Saratoga, where it was destroyed by the Union Battleships Washington and Pennsylvania off the coast of New Jersey. The Robert E. Lee would see action throughout the Battle of the Atlantic as the main flagship of the Confederate Navy, in 1943 in a naval action, the Lee would sink the Union Battleship USS Idaho and the heavy cruiser USS Olympia. In April of 1944, while defending Wilmington, North Carolina from Union ground troops, the Lee was attacked and sunk by bombers of the Union Air Force in the harbor, it's wreck would eventually be raised and scrapped in the late 1940s. The wreck of the Jefferson Davis would eventually be found by famed shipwreck hunter Bob Ballard in 1988 at 38. N and 72. W, it would become iconic, with a movie being made about it's final battle and a song titled Sink the Jefferson Davis. In 1938, the Admiralty would order two more ships of this class with a few modifications, and the ships would both be laid down in September of 1938 and work continued until August of 1942 when the building of these two battleship hulls were ordered to be halted as the war situation tuned against the Confederacy.

CSS Longstreet class Battlecruiser.
Before the rise of Jacob Featherson, the Confederate Naval High Command was coming up with plans of a new generation of Capital Ships. One of these proposals was initially called the Project 402 Battlecruiser, which the original requirement was that it was to have three turrets with four 12' guns with two smaller turrets with three 8' guns. The eventual design would compose of two main gun turrets with three 16' guns in each one, along with one turret with two 8' guns, and additionally with six more turrets with two 6' guns. The design was approved in March of 1934, the problem was that the Confederacy lacked any large drydocks outside of Norfolk, which was being watched by the Union. The Confederacy had to turn to the French for help, which the first ship, the CSS James Longstreet was constructed at the Saint Nazaire Shipyard in France. Whereas the second ship, the CSS J.E.B. Stuart was constructed in the new shipyard at Mobile Naval Shipyard under French supervision (though the building of the Stuart would be built in 1936 as the drydock took years to build.) The Longstreet would be launched in July of 1937 and completed in April of 1938, the CSS Stuart would launched in April of 1939 and would be completed in May of 1940. As the Second Great War went into full swing, the Longstreet would be deployed to the Caribbean to assist with Confederate Amphibious Assaults in the region while the CSS Stuart bombarded Atlantic City and also took part on commerce raiding against the Union Merchant Marine in the Central and North Atlantic. The Stuart would prove to be successful, in which she would sink 10 Union, 2 German, and 2 Norwegian merchant ships. However, as the CSS Stuart was patrolling the coastal region of Canada, the Union Navy ships Pittsburgh, Boston, and Los Angeles would engage the Confederate Battlecruiser and the resulting naval action would see the Pittsburgh severely damaged and scuttled on December 2nd, 1941. The CSS Stuart would be eventually be sunk by the Union Navy Battleships during an engagement off the coast of Bermuda in September of 1943. The CSS Longstreet would eventually be sunk by Union Fighter Bombers during the Siege of New Orleans and be salvaged and scrapped in the mid to late 1940s.

CSS Florida class Pocket Battleship/Heavy Cruiser
After the First Great War, the Confederate Navy by treaty was forbidden to possess Battleships that are heavier than 10,000 tons, 3 or more main gun turrets, and over 12' gun caliber. In the mid 1920s, the Confederate Admiralty started contemplating a new class of capital ships to replace their 5 pre-dreadnought battleships that they allowed to keep. Among the proposed designs, was a battlecruiser with four 11' gun turrets, a three turret battleship with 12' guns, and a two turreted "Pocket Battleship" with 12' guns. In 1928, the final design, which was the pocket battleship proposal was ultimately chosen. Three of these new Pocket Battleships were ordered, two from the Mobile Naval Arsenal, and one from United Steel Shipyards in New Orleans. The ships in the class were Florida, Texas, and Chihuahua, with the Florida and Texas being laid down in late 1929 and the Chihuahua being laid down in 1930, which they were all completed by 1935. The Confederacy would lie to the Union about these ships, being that they were under 10,000 tons in weight, and were intended to replace three of their pre-dreadnought battleships from the early 1900s. When the Confederacy invaded the Union during Operation Blackbeard, the Chihuahua was at Charleston, the Texas taking part in anti-commerce raids in the Atlantic, and the Florida taking part in the Invasion of the Bahamas. The Texas would be engaged by Union Warships off the coast of Nova Scotia during an attempted attack on a convoy. She would be pursued by the Union Navy all up they way off the coast of Labrador where she was sunk off of the coast of Cod Island at 57. N and 61. W. The two surviving ships of the class in the Spring of 1942 would all be re-classified as heavy cruisers. The Florida be severely damaged in the superbombing of Newport News and was abandoned due to the radiation. The Florida would eventually be towed out into the Atlantic and be sunk by the US Navy in 1945. The Chihuahua would be destroyed by Union Navy destroyers in the Caribbean off the coast of Cuba in the Straits of Florida on April 26th, 1944.

CSS North Carolina class Heavy Cruiser
In the middle of 1938, the Confederate Admiralty would order the construction of 2 heavy cruisers of a new class. This class was to have a turbine power plant, three turrets with barrels of 8' guns, three triple mount turrets of the newly developed automatic 5' guns. The construction of two of the ships would commence in September of 1938 and would be launched in December of 1940 and February of 1941 as the CSS North Carolina and CSS Sonora respectively and commissioned in August and September of 1941. In October of 1940, two more cruisers* of the class would be ordered and be laid down in January of 1941, but in August of 1942, the construction of both ships would be suspended under the orders of none other of than Jake Featherson as other war weapons constructions were prioritized such as destroyers and frigates. The two unfinished hulls were eventually scrapped on their slipways after the war ended in the late 1940s and early 1950s. The CSS North Carolina and Sonora saw action against the Union Navy in the Atlantic, and in June of 1943, the Sonora was sunk by Union Navy aircraft and heavy cruisers in the naval action in the Central Atlantic. The CSS North Carolina in the final months of the war would be used to assist in the evacuation of Confederate Troops in Georgia and in South Carolina, and on May 2nd, 1944, the CSS North Carolina was attacked and immobilized by Union Navy frogmen in Jacksonville, Mississippi. The CSS North Carolina would be raised in June of 1945 and be taken to Savanna for scrapping.
* = It has been long been speculated that the intended names for the cruisers where to CSS Cuba and CSS Louisiana.

CSS Alabama class Heavy Cruiser
In 1935, as part of the re-armament of the Confederate Navy, a class of three heavy cruisers would be ordered, as part of Specification 1024, the cruiser was to be armed with four dual mount 8' guns and six dual mount dual purpose 5' guns and an aviation facility. While designing the ship, the Confederate took influences from the French Algerie class Heavy Cruiser. In December 1935, the first cruiser would be laid down, the second would be laid down in January of 1936, and the final ship would be laid down in May of 1936. These would become the CSS Alabama, Arkansas, and Kentucky, which the last ship would be commissioned in July of 1939 to the Confederate Navy. When war broke out in 1941, the Alabama and Kentucky would take part in the Amphibious Assault into the Bahamas while the Arkansas provided gunfire support for the Confederate Marines landing in Haiti. During the invasion of the Bahamas, a Union Coastal Battery would cause damage to the CSS Kentucky, which spent 3 months in repair in it's homeport of Tampa. On May 22nd, 1942, while on a sortie off the coast of Delaware, all three ships would battle against the Union Navy, which the Kentucky would cause damage to Union Cruiser USS Dayton and sunk the destroyer USS Pope. However, the Confederates would lose the CSS Arkansas to gunfire from the cruisers USS Madison and USS Boston. CSS Alabama would be lost in a night engagement almost a month later to the Battleship USS Montana. The CSS Kentucky would end up surviving the 2nd Great War and be pressed into the US Navy as the USS Kentucky, which she would be used as a gunnery training ship until 1951, when she was turned into a depot ship, which she would serve the role until her decommissioning in 1962 and was sold to shipbreakers in France in 1964.

CSS Virginia class Heavy Cruiser = Same as OTL Foch class Heavy Cruiser
After the 1st Great War and the subsequent reduction of the Confederate Navy, the CSN would posses 7 cruisers, which were built at the turn of the 20th century. In the late 1920s, the Confederacy would construction of their first class of Heavy Cruisers, as a matter of fact, they would work closely with the French in the designing of these cruisers. Both navies were to build the same design, the French would operate them as the Suffern class, while the Confederates were to operate them as the Virginia class. The Confederacy would begin construction of their cruisers in 1928, with the CSS Virginia being commissioned in April of 1933, the CSS Tennessee would be commissioned in October of 1933, and the final member of the class, the CSS Georgia, would be commissioned into the Confederate Navy on March 14th, 1934. In order to fool the Union of what these cruisers really were, they were originally armed with triple mount 6' guns, in their 1938 refits, the ships would be updated with dual mount 8' guns, similar to the ones found on the Alabama class cruisers. When the 2nd Great War kicked off, only 2 of the 3 ships in the class were in American Waters as the CSS Tennessee was caught in the Black Sea while on a goodwill tour to Russia with the light cruiser CSS Macon. In December of 1941, both the Tennessee and the Macon would be transferred to the Russian Navy and the Tennessee would be named as the Admiral Makarov in Russian Naval Service, though most of her crew would remain to her Confederate crew. The Makarov fight against the navies of Bulgaria, the Ukraine, Turkey, and Austria-Hungary. During the war, the Makarov would be responsible for the loss of three Ottoman and two Austrian destroyers, the Austrian cruiser Triglav, and several merchant ships of Ottoman, Ukrainian, Austrian, and German origin. In January of 1944, the Admiral Makarov while providing naval gunfire support to Russian ground troops was sunk by German bombers off the coast of Crimea. The Georgia and Virginia at the start of the war would conduct anti-shipping operations in the Atlantic, in which they would sink four Union merchant ships. The Virginia would be badly damaged by the Union submarine USS Pike off the coast of Florida in May of 1942, which resulted in the ship spending three months in Tampa undergoing repairs. The CSS Virginia would be sunk by the destroyers USS John Paul Jones and USS Fletcher in the Caribbean off the coast of Haiti in August of 1943 in a naval action between the Union and Confederate navies. The CSS Georgia would be badly damaged by Union aircraft while at port in Mobile Bay in April of 1944. The CSS Georgia was then captured by US Forces shortly thereafter and was eventually sunk by a Nuclear Explosion at Bikini Atoll in 1946.

 

[pattontank12]

I could see them playing up the image of the Germans as Barbarians, and commenting on their influence on the USA as an extension of that. They'd definitely make a lot of noise about the US being a "mongrel" nation with all the immigration.

Funnily enough I can see the United States up to SGW seeing the Confederacy as the "mongrel state" considering before Featherstone it would have a higher population of non whites. With even the native Americans of sequoyah being rather well off compared to their kin up North, alongside a significant latin American population.

Some US racial theorists going so far as to call Confederates as "degenerate southron mongrel slavers, masquerading as true whites."

 

[rob2001]

Now for some of the Capital Ships of the Confederate Navy

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CSS Jefferson Davis class Battleship.
In 1936, President Jacob Featherson as part of the modernization of the Confederate Armed Forces would order new classes of warships for the Confederate Navy, including two battleships of the Jefferson Davis class. After about two months of designing, the final design for the class consisted of a new turbine powerplant, aviation storage place in the midships, as for armament, there were 3 16' guns for each of the main gun turrets along with two turrets of 6' guns and numerous smaller caliber AA guns. In all, the class weighed in at a total of 49,000 tons fully loaded. The first ship, Jefferson Davis, was launched in May of 1940 with President Featherson heading the ceremony. The second ship, CSS Robert E. Lee was launched in October of 1940 with it being completed in August of 1941 and commissioned the following month. The Davis would be fully completed with the fitting out by January of 1941 and entering full service in June of 1941, just in time for it to take part in the Invasion of the Bahamas, where it bombarded the weak Union forces there. The CSS Jefferson Davis would subsequently take part in several Confederate Naval Operations including a bombardment of Union positions along the coast of Delaware. The Davis would meet it's end following it's engagement and destruction of the Union Battlecruiser Saratoga, where it was destroyed by the Union Battleships Washington and Pennsylvania off the coast of New Jersey. The Robert E. Lee would throughout the war would take part in shore bombardments against Union aligned rebels in the Caribbean. In April of 1944, while defending Charleston, South Carolina from Union ground troops, the Lee was attacked and sunk by bombers of the Union Air Force in the harbor, it's wreck would eventually be raised and scrapped in the late 1940s. The wreck of the Jefferson Davis would eventually be found by famed shipwreck hunter Bob Ballard in 1988 at 38. N and 72. W, it would become iconic, with a movie being made about it's final battle and a song titled Sink the Jefferson Davis. In 1938, the Admiralty would order two more ships of this class with a few modifications, and the ships would both be laid down in September of 1938 and work continued until March of 1943 when the building of these two battleship hulls were ordered to be halted as the war situation tuned against the Confederacy.

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CSS Longstreet class Battlecruiser.
Before the rise of Jacob Featherson, the Confederate Naval High Command was coming up with plans of a new generation of Capital Ships. One of these proposals was initially called the Project 402 Battlecruiser, which the original requirement was that it was to have three turrets with four 12' guns with two smaller turrets with three 8' guns. The eventual design would compose of two main gun turrets with three 16' guns in each one, along with one turret with two 8' guns, and additionally with six more turrets with two 6' guns. The design was approved in March of 1934, the problem was that the Confederacy lacked any large drydocks outside of Norfolk, which was being watched by the Union. The Confederacy had to turn to the French for help, which the first ship, the CSS James Longstreet was constructed at the Saint Nazaire Shipyard in France. Whereas the second ship, the CSS J.E.B. Stuart was constructed in the new shipyard at Mobile Naval Shipyard under French supervision (though the building of the Stuart would be built in 1936 as the drydock took years to build.) The Longstreet would be launched in July of 1937 and completed in April of 1938, the CSS Stuart would launched in April of 1939 and would be completed in May of 1940. As the Second Great War went into full swing, the Longstreet would be deployed to the Caribbean to assist with Confederate Amphibious Assaults in the region while the CSS Stuart bombarded Atlantic City and also took part on commerce raiding against the Union Merchant Marine in the Central and North Atlantic. The Stuart would prove to be successful, in which she would sink 10 Union, 2 German, and 2 Norwegian merchant ships. However, as the CSS Stuart was patrolling the coastal region of Canada, the Union Navy ships Pittsburgh, Boston, and Los Angeles would engage the Confederate Battlecruiser and the resulting naval action would see the Pittsburgh severely damaged and scuttled on December 2nd, 1941. The CSS Stuart would be eventually be sunk by the Union Navy Battleships during an engagement off the coast of North Carolina in September of 1943. The CSS Longstreet would eventually be sunk by Union Fighter Bombers during the Siege of New Orleans and be salvaged and scrapped in the mid to late 1940s.

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CSS Florida class Pocket Battleship/Heavy Cruiser
After the First Great War, the Confederate Navy by treaty was forbidden to possess Battleships that are heavier than 10,000 tons, 3 or more main gun turrets, and over 12' gun caliber. In the mid 1920s, the Confederate Admiralty started contemplating a new class of capital ships to replace their 5 pre-dreadnought battleships that they allowed to keep. Among the proposed designs, was a battlecruiser with four 11' gun turrets, a three turret battleship with 12' guns, and a two turreted "Pocket Battleship" with 12' guns. In 1928, the final design, which was the pocket battleship proposal was ultimately chosen. Three of these new Pocket Battleships were ordered, two from the Mobile Naval Arsenal, and one from United Steel Shipyards in New Orleans. The ships in the class were Florida, Texas, and Chihuahua, with the Florida and Texas being laid down in late 1929 and the Chihuahua being laid down in 1930, which they were all completed by 1935. The Confederacy would lie to the Union about these ships, being that they were under 10,000 tons in weight, and were intended to replace three of their pre-dreadnought battleships from the early 1900s. When the Confederacy invaded the Union during Operation Blackbeard, the Chihuahua was at Charleston, the Texas taking part in anti-commerce raids in the Atlantic, and the Florida taking part in the Invasion of the Bahamas. The Texas would be engaged by Union Warships off the coast of Nova Scotia during an attempted attack on a convoy. She would be pursued by the Union Navy all up they way off the coast of Labrador where she was sunk off of the coast of Cod Island at 57. N and 61. W. The Florida be severely damaged in the superbombing of Newport News and was abandoned due to the radiation. The Florida would eventually be towed out into the Atlantic and be sunk by the US Navy in 1945. The Chihuahua would be destroyed by Union Navy destroyers in the Caribbean off the coast of Cuba in the Straits of Florida on April 26th, 1944.

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CSS North Carolina class Heavy Cruiser
In the middle of 1938, the Confederate Admiralty would order the construction of 2 heavy cruisers of a new class. This class was to have a turbine power plant, three turrets with barrels of 8' guns, three triple mount turrets of the newly developed automatic 5' guns. The construction of two of the ships would commence in September of 1938 and would be launched in December of 1940 and February of 1941 as the CSS North Carolina and CSS Sonora respectively and commissioned in August and September of 1941. In October of 1940, two more cruisers* of the class would be ordered and be laid down in January of 1941, but in March of 1943, the construction of both ships would be suspended under the orders of none other of than Jake Featherson as other war weapons constructions were prioritized such as destroyers and frigates. The two unfinished hulls were eventually scrapped on their slipways after the war ended in the late 1940s and early 1950s. The CSS North Carolina and Sonora saw action against the Union Navy in the Caribbean, and in June of 1943, the Sonora was sunk by Union Navy aircraft and heavy cruisers in the naval action in the Bahamas. The CSS North Carolina in the final months of the war would be used to assist in the evacuation of Confederate Troops in Georgia and in South Carolina, and on May 2nd, 1944, the CSS North Carolina was attacked and immobilized by Union Navy frogmen in Jacksonville, Mississippi. The CSS North Carolina would be raised in June of 1945 and be taken to Savanna for scrapping.
* = It has been long been speculated that the intended names for the cruisers where to CSS Cuba and CSS Louisiana.

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CSS Alabama class Heavy Cruiser
In 1935, as part of the re-armament of the Confederate Navy, a class of three heavy cruisers would be ordered, as part of Specification 1024, the cruiser was to be armed with four dual mount 8' guns and six dual mount dual purpose 5' guns and an aviation facility. While designing the ship, the Confederate took influences from the French Algerie class Heavy Cruiser. In December 1935, the first cruiser would be laid down, the second would be laid down in January of 1936, and the final ship would be laid down in May of 1936. These would become the CSS Alabama, Arkansas, and Kentucky, which the last ship would be commissioned in July of 1939 to the Confederate Navy. When war broke out in 1941, the Alabama and Kentucky would take part in the Amphibious Assault into the Bahamas while the Arkansas provided gunfire support for the Confederate Marines landing in Haiti. During the invasion of the Bahamas, a Union Coastal Battery would cause damage to the CSS Kentucky, which spent 3 months in repair in it's homeport of Tampa. On May 22nd, 1942, while on a sortie off the coast of Delaware, all three ships would battle against the Union Navy, which the Kentucky would cause damage to Union Cruiser USS Dayton and sunk the destroyer USS Pope. However, the Confederates would lose the CSS Arkansas to gunfire from the cruisers USS Madison and USS Boston. CSS Alabama would be lost in a night engagement almost a month later to the Battleship USS Montana. The CSS Kentucky would end up surviving the 2nd Great War and be pressed into the US Navy as the USS Kentucky, which she would be used as a gunnery training ship until 1951, when she was turned into a depot ship, which she would serve the role until her decommissioning in 1962 and was sold to shipbreakers in France in 1964.

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CSS Virginia class Heavy Cruiser = Same as OTL Foch class Heavy Cruiser
After the 1st Great War and the subsequent reduction of the Confederate Navy, the CSN would posses 7 cruisers, which were built at the turn of the 20th century. In the late 1920s, the Confederacy would construction of their first class of Heavy Cruisers, as a matter of fact, they would work closely with the French in the designing of these cruisers. Both navies were to build the same design, the French would operate them as the Suffern class, while the Confederates were to operate them as the Virginia class. The Confederacy would begin construction of their cruisers in 1928, with the CSS Virginia being commissioned in April of 1933, the CSS Tennessee would be commissioned in October of 1933, and the final member of the class, the CSS Georgia, would be commissioned into the Confederate Navy on March 14th, 1934. In order to fool the Union of what these cruisers really were, they were originally armed with triple mount 6' guns, in their 1938 refits, the ships would be updated with dual mount 8' guns, similar to the ones found on the Alabama class cruisers. When the 2nd Great War kicked off, only 2 of the 3 ships in the class were in American Waters as the CSS Tennessee was caught in the Black Sea while on a goodwill tour to Russia with the light cruiser CSS Macon. In December of 1941, both the Tennessee and the Macon would be transferred to the Russian Navy and the Tennessee would be named as the Admiral Makarov in Russian Naval Service, though most of her crew would remain to her Confederate crew. The Makarov fight against the navies of Bulgaria, the Ukraine, Turkey, and Austria-Hungary. During the war, the Makarov would be responsible for the loss of three Ottoman and two Austrian destroyers, the Austrian cruiser Triglav, and several merchant ships of Ottoman, Ukrainian, Austrian, and German origin. In January of 1944, the Admiral Makarov while providing naval gunfire support to Russian ground troops was sunk by German bombers off the coast of Crimea. The Georgia and Virginia at the start of the war would conduct anti-shipping operations in the Atlantic, in which they would sink four Union merchant ships. The Virginia would be badly damaged by the Union submarine USS Pike off the coast of Florida in May of 1942, which resulted in the ship spending three months in Tampa undergoing repairs. The CSS Virginia would be sunk by the destroyers USS John Paul Jones and USS Fletcher in the Caribbean off the coast of Haiti in August of 1943 in a naval action between the Union and Confederate navies. The CSS Georgia would be badly damaged by Union aircraft while at port in Mobile Bay in April of 1944. The CSS Georgia was then captured by US Forces shortly thereafter and was eventually sunk by the Union Air Force while testing new and experimental weapons on her off the coast of Labrador in 1948.

Wouldn't it be difficult to raise the C.S.S. Robert E. Lee from Charleston Harbor when the entire city was destroyed by a Superbomb in 1944?

 

[S. Marlowski]

Wouldn't it be e difficult to raise the C.S.S. Robert E. Lee from Charleston Harbor when the entire city was destroyed by a Superbomb in 1944?

Good point, so I decided to change it to Wilmington NC

 

[S. Marlowski]

Light Cruisers of the Confederacy

CSS Richmond class Light Cruiser
In late 1937, the Confederate Admiralty would order the construction of 3 ships of a new class of Light Cruisers for it's growing Blue Water Fleet. The specification, called Project 943, was to have four triple mount turrets with 6' guns, two torpedo launchers, and an aviation facility to accommodate two scout planes. The first ships would be laid down in the summer of 1938 at the Mobile Naval Arsenal and at Charleston Shipyard. These three ships would be named the CSS Richmond, Havana, and Perryville, and the Havana would be the first ship to be commissioned on December 12th, 1940, thus the Richmond class would sometimes be referred to as the Havana class. The Richmond would be commissioned in April of 1941 and the Perryville in September of 1941. Three more ships of the class would be laid down in September and October of 1940 and would ultimately be cancelled in August of 1942 due to smaller oceangoing ships and riverine warships being prioritized. The Richmond and Havana would both be deployed to the Bahamas to assist in it's invasion in the summer of 1941 while the Perry was fitting out in Charleston. The CSS Havana would be lost in 1943 in the Central Atlantic when the Union submarine USS Barb torpedoed and sunk her with all hands lost. The Richmond during the war had sunk two Union Destroyers and damaged the heavy cruiser USS Denver off the coast of Delaware in March of 1943. The Richmond at the end of the war would escape to Mexico and be interned there, and would recommissioned into Mexican service as the Maximilian I and serve with the Mexico until 1972, she was then sold to ship breakers in the UK in 1973. The Perryville in October of 1943 would be severely damaged in a collision with the CSS Longstreet, as a result, was laid up in Tampa for the remainder of the war. After war's end, the Union Navy would press her into service as a barracks ship for the Confederate Mine Clearing Force* until June of 1947. In July of 1947, the old cruiser was towed to the Bahamas and scuttled there, and since had become a popular spot for divers.
* = The Confederate Mine Clearing Force was a postwar unit made up mostly of former Confederate Navy personnel who were tasked with clearing sea mines that were laid across the coastlines of the former Confederacy and the United States. Inspired by OTL's German Minesweeping Administration, which was formed after WWII from German sailors to clear sea mines.

CSS Savanna class Light Cruiser
In late 1934, the Confederate Admiralty would order 8 cruisers for construction, the cruisers in question were to built to the specifications of Project 557. The first ship would be laid down in March of 1935 and launched in May of 1937 as the CSS Savanna at the Charleston shipyard and would be commissioned into the Confederate Fleet in late December of 1937. The Savanna would be joined by her sisterships the Jacksonville, San Antonio, Cowpens, and Fort Sumter, three of the planned ships of the class would ultimately be re-ordered as AA cruisers for the Louisville subclass. The Savanna class' armament would consist of four triple mount turrets of 6' guns and three smaller caliber dual purpose gun turrets and four torpedo tubes. The ships of the class would ultimately take part in numerous operations during the war, including the Cowpens and Jacksonville, which both took part in the Invasion of Bermuda in 1943. Out 5 ships in the class, only two of them, the Cowpens and the San Antonio would survive the war, with the Savanna being sunk by the USS Buffalo in the Atlantic in 1942 alongside the CSS Arkansas. The Fort Sumter would be destroyed by Union Fighter Bombers while defending the coastal city of Wilmington in 1944, and was ultimately raised and scrapped in 1947. The Jacksonville would be sunk by aircraft from the aircraft carrier USS Enterprise on September 11th, 1943 near Bermuda. The San Antonio would be captured alongside with the Cowpens at war's end in Tampa and would be given to the infantile Texan Navy, where it served until 1964 where it was decommissioned and scrapped in 1965 in Brownsville. The CSS Cowpens would be pressed into service in the Union Navy as the USS Cowpens, where it served as a Light Cruiser until 1950, where it was then converted into a barracks ship where it served in that capacity until 1969 where it was then decommissioned and sold for scrap that same year to France. However, the ship would break tow near it's final destination of Brest and ended up foundering on the coast of Ireland, where the hull remained to this day, though ship breakers would salvage pieces of the ship throughout the years, as late as 1990.

CSS Louisville class Anti-Aircraft Cruiser.
Originally planned to be members of the Savanna class of Light Cruiser, the three ships where re-ordered as a modified design in October of 1936. This new design was just the main armament was simply changed to five dual mount turrets of 5' automatic guns, which were to be dual purpose guns, which they were designed mainly as an anti-aircraft weapon. The first ship, the CSS Louisville, was launched in June of 1938 at Mobile and was commissioned into the Confederate Fleet in January of 1939, it's sister ships, the CSS Memphis and CSS Veracruz, would be commissioned in late 1939 and early 1940 respectively. During the war, the ships accompanied larger capital as a form of Anti-Aircraft protection, which their guns would prove to be formidable to any Union aircraft that dared get in their way. The CSS Memphis and CSS Louisville would get destroyed in a naval action with Union Ships north of the Bahamas in October of 1943. The CSS Veracruz would end up getting attacked by Union Navy Frogmen while it was it's moorings in Savanna, Georgia in April of 1944, and was raised and scrapped in the late 1940s.

CSS Manassas class Light Cruiser
After the First Great War, the Confederate Cruiser Force was reduced to 7 cruisers from the turn of the 20th Century, in the early 1920s, the Confederate Admiralty was working on designing a class of new cruisers which was to get around the Naval Restrictions placed on them by the Union. In the process, they would work with the French in their designs. The design ultimately chosen was to feature three dual mount 6' guns and an aircraft catapult. Two of the ships would be constructed in France while the third ship was constructed in New Orleans. The first ship, the CSS Manassas, would be launched on July 4th, 1927, and be commissioned on December 1st, 1927. The other two ships, the CSS Macon and CSS Little Rock, would be both commissioned in 1928 to the Confederate Navy. During the inter-war years, the ships would do many goodwill tours across the world, notably with the CSS Little Rock visiting Union Ports in 1932. When war broke out in 1941, the CSS Little Rock and Manassas would both take part in the Invasion of Haiti while the CSS Macon was trapped in the Black Sea. The Macon would be transferred to the Imperial Russian Navy and be renamed as the Novik and serve with the Russians throughout the war until being sunk by the Austrian Navy in September of 1943. The CSS Little Rock was lost in August of 1941 near Norfolk Virginia after striking a mine laid by the Union Navy. The Manassas after the Haiti operation would serve for much of the war as a Gunnery Training ship in the Gulf of Mexico until late 1943 when she was put into service to provide gunfire support to Confederate Ground Force in the Caribbean. On February 4th, 1944, Union Navy Dive Bombers would attack the Manassas and would cause severe damage to the ship while sailing off the coast of Cuba. The Manassas was ultimately lost while the ship was being towed to the port of Havana by the Destroyer CSS Hammond in the Strait of Florida during a terrible storm.

CSS La Paz class Protected Cruiser
Built at the turn of the 20th Century in Britain, the La Paz class Protected Cruiser served the Confederate Navy as frontline cruisers until 1915 when they were re-delegated to use as Gunnery Training Ships. Following War's End, the three ships, the CSS La Paz, New Orleans, and Birmingham would be retained by the Confederacy, and as such, returned to frontline service as cruisers. They would serve in this role until the mid 1930s when they were withdrawn to 2nd Line roles again, such as training vessels, and with the Birmingham, would become a barracks ship. During the 2nd Great War, the CSS La Paz would play a role during the Invasion of Haiti when it transported Confederate Marines to the island during it's invasion. Afterwards, the La Paz would operate out of Cuba as a training vessel until March of 1944 when it was pressed into service as a AA cruiser, in which it would stationed at New Orleans until it's ultimate capture by Union Forces. After the war, the La Paz would be used as a minesweeper tender for the Confederate Mine Clearing Force until mid 1947, when it was finally decommissioned and was subsequently scrapped in Mobile. The CSS Birmingham would serve as a Barracks Ship until her capture by the Union Navy at Tampa Bay in June of 1944. She was used by the occupying Union troops until May of 1945, when the old ship was towed out to the Atlantic and scuttled loaded with old Confederate Chemical Weapons. The CSS New Orleans would serve as a gunnery training ship until April of 1944 when she was called into frontline service for last time as a floating gun battery at Savanna, Georgia, providing naval gunfire support for the retreating Confederate Army. On May 2nd, 1944, the ship was attacked by Union Air Force fighter bombers and was sunk, the shipwreck would be raised and scrapped sometime in 1945.