TL-191: After the End
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By 2021, the USA has the world’s largest navy. But the USA also faces competition in terms of the rate of ship construction and technological development from several of the world’s other great powers, including the Empire of Brazil, the German Empire, the Republic of China, the Republic of Bharat, and the Russian Republic.
The US naval competition with Bharat is not particularly friendly.
The US Navy in TTL, broadly speaking, has similarities to the OTL US Navy, including the presence of carrier battle groups and nuclear submarines. By 2021, the US Navy is still deployed mostly in the Pacific and Caribbean. There is a network of large combined naval and air bases around the world utilized by the US Navy by 2021, as part of its commitments to its allies in the CDS.
A relatively new area of operations for the US Navy by 2021 is the Indian Ocean, with the the Somali Republic having joined the CDS in 2011. The USA now has a large combined naval/air base at Mogadishu. This is not a development welcomed by Bharat, given its rivalry with the USA. The Bharatis have responded to the new US naval presence in the Somali Republic by expanding their own naval and air presence in Kenya, South Africa, Sri Lanka, and at the ports of Aden and Mukalla, in territory once controlled by the Ottoman Empire.
Is the main reason for the tense relationship between the US and Bharat due to the US alliance with China?
Even though the new Bharat would insist others refer to them as such, does the term "India" still get used to refer the entire Subcontinent, or part thereof?
The US diplomatic and military support for China since the end of the Fourth Pacific War is a reason for the tensions and rivalry that developed between the US and Bharat later in the 20th Century.
These tensions should not necessarily be overstated. The political and military leaders of both countries by 2021 are not interested in an escalation that could lead to war.
The analogue to George McGovern in TTL was Stanley McGovern, born on a slightly different date in comparison to our world. He served in the US Army during the Second Great War. After the SGW, McGovern earned a degree in mechanical engineering, and later moved to Minnesota to work in a manufacturing plant for commercial airliners. He never went into politics, although he was a supporter of the Socialist Party. McGovern later returned to Dakota for his retirement.
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Thank you. Same to you and everyone else.Happy Holidays to you David bar Elias and everyone else
By 2021, there aren’t a lot of differences in the USA at how Christmas is celebrated, although many of the holiday songs are different in comparison to our world.
The closest analogue to the OTL Arleigh Burke class of destroyers in TTL were the Taylor class of destroyers. They were named for an admiral who served during the Fourth Pacific War, and were prominent in the US Navy from the early 1980s until the late 2010s.
I assume that an analogue of the Zumwalt-class destroyers replaced the Taylor-class. Is the railgun existing?
By different Christmas songs, I'm guessing this is in terms of pop music hits (for instance, no memes about Mariah Carey's hit single for obvious reasons).
This comment actually made me look up if she was from the South, turns out she wasn't. But there certain were a ton of parents of OTL 21st century Black artists that became victims of the Destruction (Kanye and Lil Nas X's families are from Georgia off the top of my head). I took this in a real dark turn didn't I.
In any case, I guess I'll ask if any pre-POD famous African-Americans that lived in the South became victims as well if there are any figures you had in mind (funny enough, back when I bothered with the Misc TL191 photos thread, I had MLK as an Ellie Wiesel analogue).
EDIT: Just remembered that Blues is literally called Nameless because all the great artists were murdered in the Destruction so there's that.
This comment actually made me look up if she was from the South, turns out she wasn't. But there certain were a ton of parents of OTL 21st century Black artists that became victims of the Destruction (Kanye and Lil Nas X's families are from Georgia off the top of my head). I took this in a real dark turn didn't I.
In any case, I guess I'll ask if any pre-POD famous African-Americans that lived in the South became victims as well if there are any figures you had in mind (funny enough, back when I bothered with the Misc TL191 photos thread, I had MLK as an Ellie Wiesel analogue).
EDIT: Just remembered that Blues is literally called Nameless because all the great artists were murdered in the Destruction so there's that.
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Well it wouldn't solely be because of that, practically any blues artist wouldn't exist as we know them due to their ancestors never meeting/interacting due to slavery still in place. There'd be close analogues at most.
By 2021, all of the great powers have conducted research into developing railguns. However, they are not yet part of any nation’s arsenal.
With the Armenian Genocide the Ottomans perpetrated being more accepted and officially acknowledged by the other victorious Central Powers decades after it occurred, does the attitude change in Germany among the public that their country helped to enable it?
With Greece being neutral during both wars, are there population transfers between them and the Turks in exchange for Greeks and other persecuted groups in their genocide?