TL-191: After the End

Discussion in 'Alternate History Books and Media' started by David bar Elias, Aug 17, 2008.

  1. Clandango Disestablishmentarianist

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    Read most of the timeline by now. Better than the old Zionist one.
     
  2. Petike Sky Pirate Extraordinaire

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    We shall see... :D Leave it to Dave.

    The Ugandan one ? Haven't read that, so I can't really tell. Maybe I'll give it a shot when I finish reading LORAG.
     
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  3. Clandango Disestablishmentarianist

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    It is a Jewank where their biggest problem is having millions of people want to join them. It might have been alright a few years back but it has been left in the dust by many other timelines.
     
  4. Mac Gregor Well-Known Member

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    Just wanted to say this is one of the best timelines on the site. Looking forward to more updates.
     
  5. Milarqui Bloguero de Historia Alterna

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    I agree with you. In my opinion, the Zionist Uganda TL has the problem of being way too similar to the RL timeline until the fall of Russia, only with Israel being some sort of Forrest Gump (in the sense that they, apparently, become fundamental to every important event in the 20th Century). It was very interesting, but the lack of actual butterflies did not fly (pun not intended) by me.
     
  6. CT23 Well-Known Member

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    What I mean is, what is the main German airline that would be Boeing's main competitor?
     
  7. David bar Elias Well-Known Member

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    I do have an analogue to the Corcorde in TTL: Eagle Airways. The next update will feature a smaller round of expansion than in the previous posts. I am not sure what room that would leave for an analogue to Airbus though.

    Petike has helpfully updated the wiki page for TTL.

    Sounds like a good name. If it is alright with you, I would like to use it, provided I decide to include an analogue to Airbus.

    I completely agree. I do not consider that project a good piece of work at all, either in terms of writing or plausibility.

    I wouldn't recommend it. It isn't very good. :eek:

    Thank you. I hope to have the 1990s posted by the end of the December.

    I agree with that assessment. The obvious failures of that TL stemmed from my own gross naivety and ignorance, as well as terrible writing. I hope that I have done a better job with TTL.
     
  8. Clandango Disestablishmentarianist

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    I have to wonder about how so many islands were being given their own states. They may have had high populations but it would have perhaps been simpler to lump them to together as Antillia so that they did not have to have so many people working for the state governments. Certainly unlikely that they would have needed a lot of black dominated states, anyways. If you ever change things for the timeline I might suggest something with those. That or giving them to Haiti, along with having references to a large among of mixed race children in the south from all the white women and black males, as referred to in the book. Just adds a bit of chaos.
     
  9. David bar Elias Well-Known Member

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    In TTL, the Democrats and Socialists have a quiet arrangement on the admission of the states, namely that if a Democratic-leaning territory is admitted into the Union, there has to be at least one Socialist-leaning territory admitted alongside.

    It hasn't worked perfectly, but this means that beginning in the 1970s, the admission of the remaining ex-Confederate states came with the admission of the Caribbean territories. Even as the Democrats gained more Representatives in the South, the Socialists gained more Senators in the Caribbean.
     
  10. Clandango Disestablishmentarianist

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    Finished reading. Any chance for the Austrians to still try to slip Croatia with the Slavic co-dominon or has the status quo become to solidified at this point?
     
  11. Clandango Disestablishmentarianist

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    And the Republics pick up the frozen north. Do they have Amerindian reservations in this timeline? I am unsure what to call them, given the giving official and unofficial names between the Americans and Canadians, not to mention what the Confederates and Mexicans would have called them. Seems like all the Apache would have ended up fighting one sort of American or another. Almost a shame all of Utah wasn't made into a reservation like Dakota and Oklahoma used to be. At least then they would have room to run around. Have you had them all swallowed up by the Union? While I am asking questions, what is the status of Washington D.C.? Also, I do not see why urban based socialism would be appealing to tropical islands seized a few decades before. Might as well have kept the African-Americans in America and given them large chunks of land rather than shipping them to Haiti while they can watch as dozens of Black Senators pop up from small islands around them. Probably feeling a bit bitter.
     
  12. David bar Elias Well-Known Member

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    Analogues to the reservations do exist in TTL, although I cannot give you any more details than that.

    The Federal Government moved its operations back to Washington, D.C. during the Dewey and Truman administrations, both to symbolize the reunion of the United States and due to the devastation suffered by Philadelphia at the end of the Second Great War.
     
  13. Abhakhazia Tsaritsa

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    Will we see a Harry Turtledove writing a "Northern Victory" or "TL-191" series that is OTL in the '90s?
     
  14. Nerdlinger All-around smartass

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    Like "Daniel" MacArthur, it'll be "Henry" Turtledove. Clever, eh? ;)
     
  15. Turquoise Blue Blossoming Tibby!

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    Norman Turtledove. Calling it right now.
     
  16. Abhakhazia Tsaritsa

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    Hmmmm, how about Thomas Turtledove?
     
  17. Nerdlinger All-around smartass

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    No, it has to start with an "H."
     
  18. CaliBoy1990 A bright future is still possible! =)

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    Sounds awesome.....:D
     
  19. Abhakhazia Tsaritsa

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    I think Tom Turtledove has a nice ring to it.
     
  20. Turquoise Blue Blossoming Tibby!

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    Norman Turtledove! Come on, that sounds brilliant!