Tito killed: Collapse of Yugoslavia after WWII

Admittedly, I know very little about the history of the Balkans, and what little I know comprises that Tito was the one man who managed to keep Yugoslavia together through the Cold War, and that following his death in 1980 the situation steadily degenerated until the Balkan wars broke out.

The premise of this thread is what if Tito had been killed during WWII along with the Partisan movement, leaving the Chetniks as the leading group following the War. What are the chances that following the war that a campaign of ethnic cleansings had immediately commenced under Mihailovic, and how a new round of conflict in the Balkans would have affected the course of the Cold War.
 
If Tito was killed during the Battle of Neretva or some other operations the Germans launched, it would certainly help the Germans a lot in pacifying Yugoslavia. Consequently, the Allies might be forced to help Mihailovic in liberating Yugoslavia, and Churchill's Balkan strategy may take precedence instead of trying to knock Italy out first.
 
Mihaoliovich is dead in the water one way or another. Without Tito to unify the Partizan movement it is likely it will fall apart along the ethnic lines. When the Red Army rolles in the Chetniks and the Ustashe will obliterated and a communist country(ies) of some form will be set up. The only way for the reds not to get east adriatic coast is for the NDH goverment to switch sides along with Italy and if that happens one could get Romania and Bulgaria joining the swing and some allied forces from Italy channeled into the Balkans. The Nazis are still far enough in the east so they can't react fast enough to the developing situation and in a matter of days they have a whole the size of France on their southern flank.
 
Having Serbia and Croatia become full members of the Warsaw Pact is what I'll be predicting, though I'm not sure if Serbia would be one of the most pro-Soviet states within the Communist bloc without Tito around.
 
Having Serbia and Croatia become full members of the Warsaw Pact is what I'll be predicting, though I'm not sure if Serbia would be one of the most pro-Soviet states within the Communist bloc without Tito around.
Well, wouldn't British be able to get at least to Croatia before Germany surrenders?
 
If they did, then wouldn't the attempted Lorkovic-Vokic coup still occur?

Depends on the situation. If Pavelić sees the writing on the wall he will jump ship. He was in on the coup in the first place but when the Germans got wind of it sacreficed the pair.
 
I'm not sure. Pavelic strikes me as the guy who's extremely loyal to Germany, and I'm not sure if he would even contemplate on defecting.
 
Simply removing Tito wont cause the Partisans to totally collapse, altho it will weaken them a lot.

I could see a cuple of possibilities. Firstly, there could be a loyal soviet dominated state in all of yugoslavia, or there could a Red republic largely in the north, and a west aligned Kingdom in theouth, the latter being basically a greater Serbia, even if both states CALLED themselves Yugoslavia.

If that latter happened, i think the kingdom would be a nasty scene of cold war proxy fighting.
 
Or even worse, would Mihailovic's version of Greater Serbia actually come through? There should be a PoD where Tito gets killed, but before the Chetniks lose credibility.
 
Partisant movement may be little weakned but not much. We have to remember that not only Tito's will but peoples support made Yugoslavia. Communists Partisants are only prounion group so some non commie ppl supporting yugoslavian idea join them. Are many candidats for lider eg. Andrija Hebrang (who wanted bigger independece of republics). About Mihailovic, weakned partisants movement could be option to faster and closer agreement with King (faster than that on Vis Island) but probably in the end Yugoslavia will be normal element of Warsaw Pact (because Tito could opposed to Stalin only because his undoubtedly role as leader).
 

Angel Heart

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Maybe slightly off-topic for what you have my apologies in advance but in former Yugoslavia there is a conspiracy theory lurking that suggests that Tito was actually killed in World War II and replaced by a double. Some say he was a Russian agent all along. :D
 
Maybe slightly off-topic for what you have my apologies in advance but in former Yugoslavia there is a conspiracy theory lurking that suggests that Tito was actually killed in World War II and replaced by a double. Some say he was a Russian agent all along. :D

If so, he put on a VERY convincing act.

Though as far as conspiracy theories go, this one is standout hilarious.
 

Angel Heart

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If so, he put on a VERY convincing act.

Though as far as conspiracy theories go, this one is standout hilarious.

Of course it's mostly a conspiracy theory. But when you read Tito's official biography you will notice that this man eclipes James Bond and Rambo combined. It wouldn't be far fatched to believe that many accounts of his badassery are just made up for propaganda reasons. Tito himself might have been a Baron Münchhausen at his worst.

In the Facebook version of Serbia's history they even used Tito's shady background as a gag.

Tito changed education from Austro-Hungarian Spy to Locksmith.
  • Šešelj Read everything about the Vatican spies in my book Global Whores and Conspiracies Against Serbia
  • Ilić I'll f*ck their mothers, #"()(/&&%(&/)(#=)(%# all of them!

:D
 
IMHO, the end result of Tito's death would most likely be the Yugoslavia divided as per Yalta or falling under full Soviet domination by 1948. The end effects of this range wildly. Who would organize Non aligned movement? Could Nehru and Nasser manage it by themselves?

There is a slight possibility that such Yugoslavia could prompt a WW3 sometime in the future, especially if it ends up divided on Eastern and Western part.
 

abc123

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IMHO, the end result of Tito's death would most likely be the Yugoslavia divided as per Yalta or falling under full Soviet domination by 1948. The end effects of this range wildly. Who would organize Non aligned movement? Could Nehru and Nasser manage it by themselves?

I agree.;)
 
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