Timeline Voting: Communist or Monarchist America ?

Discussion in 'Alternate History Discussion: Before 1900' started by Antonio the Komnenoi, Oct 10, 2019.

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Which Timeline should I do ?

  1. Monarchist USA

    53 vote(s)
    63.9%
  2. Communist USA

    24 vote(s)
    28.9%
  3. Continue "Golden Eagle"

    5 vote(s)
    6.0%
  4. Another one (Comment)

    1 vote(s)
    1.2%
  1. Antonio the Komnenoi A devout Monarchist

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    As you can see by my previous two threads, I'm planning on creating an new Timeline with the experience I learned from "The Golden Eagle". I decided to Center it on the US this time, and I have two options: Either an America that becomes a Monarchy during the Revolutionary War, or a Communist one in the Interwar years.

    Which one do you want ? I understand that the latter option doesn't have many Timelines written due to the hardship of achieving it, while the first one is a classic. Any hints and suggestions are welcome too.
     
  2. Atterdag Well-Known Member

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    I say communist as long as it's not just "Soviet Union in America" complete with American Stalin and the like.

    I think it would be very interesting to see how a Communist economy develops in a country with a liberal background, rather than a feudal one in Russia. How the message of equality is interpreted in a country with a long history of racial segregation but no Nobility like in Russia. And of course how the fact that there's no rival neighbour like Germany to Russia affects it's view on military and expansion.
     
  3. JustinianTheGrand Augustus

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    How about theocratic America? Its a bit wonky but it would probably be an interesting thing to write.
     
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  4. Antonio the Komnenoi A devout Monarchist

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    Syndicalism is much more likely to happen in America, as shown by the primacy of the IWW in American radical Leftism before the Red Scare.
     
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  5. Antonio the Komnenoi A devout Monarchist

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    There is already one in "What Madness is This ?!" Not gonna do it, vote for something else.
     
  6. Raferty Well-Known Member

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    I pick monarchy because generally speaking it is a less totalitarian system and there are better odds at some aspects of economic freedom like property rights existing.

    Of course, monarchy often depends on the qualities of the monarch which is very unstable.

    But Communism generally has only a few possible outcomes, none being very good.

    Unless perhaps you mean "Communist" in the Chinese sense, with economic liberalism. Still would take the monarchy though.
     
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  7. Antonio the Komnenoi A devout Monarchist

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    Monarchy would be something easier for me to write, because it's a lot easier to get.

    In America, private propriety and economical freedom are integral values. And those aren't compromised necessarily by having a King, but they are by having a General Secretary.
     
  8. Pralaya Well-Known Member

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    I've never seen an imperial American timeline, but I've seen some Communist USSA timelines, excluding the infamous Joe Steele timeline. I think my decision is pretty much set regarding the vote.
     
  9. Manatee Well-Known Member

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    I vote for a anarcho-communist-monarchy USA.
     
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  10. Antonio the Komnenoi A devout Monarchist

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    This is supposed to be serious.
     
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  11. Manatee Well-Known Member

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    I am serious I want someone to make that timeline, it would be rad and really unique I mean we have hade Monarchical USA we have had communist USA but never a Monarchical communist USA. Maybe some sort of Imperial socialism?
     
  12. Antonio the Komnenoi A devout Monarchist

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    What kind of monstrosity is Monarchical Communism ? How would that even work ?
     
  13. Manatee Well-Known Member

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    Where the head of the communist party is a hereditary position, or maybe a sort of constitutional monarchy in a communist state.
     
  14. Atterdag Well-Known Member

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    Isn't that what North Korea is doing? In name atleast.
     
  15. Antonio the Komnenoi A devout Monarchist

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    Oh, I thought you were saying "de Jure".
     
  16. Antonio the Komnenoi A devout Monarchist

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    Since Monarchism is winning 2:1 by now, I guess I'm sorry comrades, go back to reading "Reds !" Because King Washington is coming.

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  17. Atterdag Well-Known Member

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    Emperor Norton > King Washington
     
  18. Darth_Kiryan The NĂºmenorean Sith

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    There are a few on this site, but they tend to not last very long, or go very far.

    Are you going to change the POD to be earlier enough that he actually has the ability to have children. Or shall we have the cliche Washinghton -> Step-children -> Step-Grandchildren -> Robert E Lee (who married either the G-Granddaughter or the Granddaughter,)
     
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  19. Alexander the Average Anti-lion tamer

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    Why not both? A Monarchist America that later has a Communist Revolution.
     
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  20. Antonio the Komnenoi A devout Monarchist

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    Having King Robert I Lee as king is a cliche ? Never heard about it. I will try to avoid the "Step-children" cliche.