Timeline Plausibility Check

[Zoidberg12]

Hi, I've been surfing this site on and off for about two and half years, and I decided why not join? You guys write allot of great, creative and cool stuff here, and I've really enjoyed reading through all these Timelines.

I have this timeline idea that I need some feedback on. If anything is implausible, just let me now how to improve it. Plus I might also have some questions. By the way, the idea came from this thread I found right here.

Here we go; The POD is in 1759 when General Montcalm survives and wins the Battles of the Plains of Abraham. How this happened I'm gonna need some help on. Anyway, France manages to hold onto French Canada throughout the rest of the Seven Years War, and in the Treaty of Paris, are permitted to keep it.

The American Revolution still happens (maybe a little differently) and after Saratoga, France still allies with the American's, but the war ends by 1780 with troops already in Quebec. At the Treaty of Paris, France gains more Canadian land (the rough equivalent of OTL Quebec Province), while America gets the rest of British Canada.

The French Revolution rolls around (again, maybe a little differently), and the Royal Family manage to flee to French Quebec and set up a Pro-Royalist government in exile. Almost like how Queen Maria set up the Portuguese court in Brazil. During the War of the First Coalition, Britain and the Coalition ally with Quebec in order to restore the French Monarchy.

I now that was a mouthful, but now for some feedback.

 

[MN.Gruber06]

With PODs, as long as it's well written and can be explained in detail and has even a hint of plausibility, it's fine. Everything after that can be attributed to butterflies and you can shape your timeline to your liking as you long as you have a general knowledge of history. It's relatively simple. No one is truly an expert on saying "well if this would've happened, then this most certainly would not have" since we simply don't possess the information or the facts to do so. Your timeline above, if it could be explained correctly and to a proper degree, is fine.

Look at my timeline, for example. It explains the history of an independent state in the Upper Midwest and Minnesota which has one minor POD that later helps shape a major POD. The minor being the Seuer du Luht returns to MN in 1700 (as he vowed to, but never did in OTL) and establishes a fur trading post near modern day Duluth. This causes some minor migration, etc. Now this can butterfly to lead people to believe that maybe that the man who lit the fuse at York in 1813 in OTL immigrates to MN and never kills General Pike there when the Canadians blow up the armory. And maybe because of the fur trading post near Duluth, Pike is moved to also settle there after the conclusion of his military career, etc... you can read it all in my TL, as listed in my signature.

My main point is a POD and its after-effecting butterflies are plausible to any degree you wish as long as it's well written and explained in detail.

 

[Zoidberg12]

With PODs, as long as it's well written and can be explained in detail and has even a hint of plausibility, it's fine. Everything after that can be attributed to butterflies and you can shape your timeline to your liking as you long as you have a general knowledge of history. It's relatively simple. No one is truly an expert on saying "well if this would've happened, then this most certainly would not have" since we simply don't possess the information or the facts to do so. Your timeline above, if it could be explained correctly and to a proper degree, is fine.

Look at my timeline, for example. It explains the history of an independent state in the Upper Midwest and Minnesota which has one minor POD that later helps shape a major POD. The minor being the Seuer du Luht returns to MN in 1700 (as he vowed to, but never did in OTL) and establishes a fur trading post near modern day Duluth. This causes some minor migration, etc. Now this can butterfly to lead people to believe that maybe that the man who lit the fuse at York in 1813 in OTL immigrates to MN and never kills General Pike there when the Canadians blow up the armory. And maybe because of the fur trading post near Duluth, Pike is moved to also settle there after the conclusion of his military career, etc... you can read it all in my TL, as listed in my signature.

My main point is a POD and its after-effecting butterflies are plausible to any degree you wish as long as it's well written and explained in detail.

Thanks. I'll get around to writing a brief timeline of events in this thread latter in the week. Think of it as a sneak preview.

 

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If you can explain how Montcalm manages to win (pretty hard), then everything else can comfortably follow.

There's plenty of ways to keep New France if you tweak the events of the 7YW on the continent, too.

 

[Zoidberg12]

Hey guys, listen I just wanted to say that this timeline is on hold for now. Don't worry I'll still write it soon, since it is such an awesome idea. It's just that I've been preoccupied with my American King II work, both in the EU Thread and on the Wiki, and my new Franz Joseph timeline. After I do some more research, I'll write the first chapter, which will hopefully be one the site before the end of the year.

Anyway, enjoy this in the meantime.