Timeline Challenge #1: The Eugenics Wars

Jason said:
In another episode, one where an alien kidnaps Spock and Kirk to fight in a battle between 'good' and 'evil', we meet a Colonel Green (?) who is said to have taken control of some part of America-possibly the west coast of (I assumed) the USA? Ok, a bit vague but was he an Eugenic or is he WW3? I am pretty sure that WW3 and the Eugenics War are supposed to be seperate. Can anyone clarify this.


Ah-one of the great Star Trek can of worms.Most canon ( tv show or movie)information indicates that the Eugenics War and WW3 are 2 seperate ,distinct events that happened in 2 different centuries -ie the Eugenics War-1992-1996 and WW3 circa 2053( First Contact) or 2079 (Encounter at Farpoint) but clearly in the 21st century.Colonel Green has been presented as being part of WW3 and there is some good news about him-the 3rd and 2nd to last episodes of Enterprise are going to deal with 22nd century alien xenophobia on Earth and are said to deal with or mention Colonel Green in some way.
Personally, I think that the best way to view the split/similarity between the Eugenics War and WW3 in the Star Trek ATL is to look at WW1 and WW2 in OTL.In Space Seed,Spock refers to the Eugenics War as part of the "era" of your so called last world war .I think it makes sense that the worldwide conflict of the Eugenics War led to the unrest thats presented as happening in the 2020's in the DS9 sanctuary district episodes ,which eventually lead to WW3 in the 2050's.I think it makes alot of sense that the Eastern Coalition that First Contact implies is the enemy of the West is some sort of left over alliance or group of nations that were controlled by the Augments in the 1990's and WW3 was the final nuclear conflict between those who wanted freedom vs genetic,religious or other types of control.I think that this could all lead back to a alternate WW2 in the Star trek timeline where Eugenics wasnt as thoroughly dicredited as it was in OTL-where in the 1990's and perhaps still in the 2050's it was viewed as a viable option for humanity-makes sense from what I have seen in the Star Trek canon.
 
Jason said:
I always thought the Eugenics were said to have seized nations in Europe-I wondered if Eire would be a good target for them; limited military but great strategic location allowing them to interfer with links between America and Europe, and would tie us Brits up from doing too much elsewhere until we could force them out.
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All the stuff I have seen-canon or otherwise- implies or indicates that many of the eugenic supermen/Augments were European or even American but that their actual empire or areas of control on Earth were limited to what we would call the Third World-Africa,Asia and the Middle East.I think this is another thing that distinguishes WW3 from the Eugenics War.The fans who insist that the conflicts are one and the same point to the Voyager episode where they go back to 1996 and there is no mention of or apparent damage from the Eugenics War in California.I think the more likely reason for this is that the Eugenics War didnt physically touch the West that much except maybe in a few instances (like San Diego in my TL) whereas WW3 was a truly global,but limited, nuclear war with worldwide casualties and,as per Riker in First Contact ,the destruction of most major cities on Earth- including those in the United States and Europe.
 
Li Quan was part of the Post-Atomic Horror, in the 2050's. He was a warlord in what was left of California.

Col. Green was and SAS officer who decided to switch sides in the middle of the attacks on Australia. Either that, or a rogue black ops agent who decided to become a terrorist.

Wasn't Khan more like bin-Laden, the leader of a terroritst group? Though, I could see him as an underworld figure.

I know its not canon, but Gary Seven was supposed to have been one of the major players in the Eugenics Wars.
 
Michael E Johnson said:
All the stuff I have seen-canon or otherwise- implies or indicates that many of the eugenic supermen/Augments were European or even American but that their actual empire or areas of control on Earth were limited to what we would call the Third World-Africa,Asia and the Middle East.I think this is another thing that distinguishes WW3 from the Eugenics War.The fans who insist that the conflicts are one and the same point to the Voyager episode where they go back to 1996 and there is no mention of or apparent damage from the Eugenics War in California.I think the more likely reason for this is that the Eugenics War didnt physically touch the West that much except maybe in a few instances (like San Diego in my TL) whereas WW3 was a truly global,but limited, nuclear war with worldwide casualties and,as per Riker in First Contact ,the destruction of most major cities on Earth- including those in the United States and Europe.


Of course Khan isn't European or American, there is a comment about him being Indian I'm sure (ok, being petty and going on memories of the episode which I haven't seen for a few years). The problem I've always had with the whole thing is the way Spock describes the Eugenics War, there is a bit where Spock does some research and says he's worked out some 30 or 40 supermen went missing after the end of the Eugenics War, Kirk says something like that's not in the history books, Spock replies would you want to tell war weary countries that they might still be out there. I am sure there is also a bit where Kirk comments on populations being bombed out of existance in the war. I was always left with the impression that the war ended with Khan and Co being driven out and WW3 was seperate.
So, if it was such a major war, how comes it didn't end up as WW3? It's a prob I never managed to answer for myself, that's what bugs me.
 
Kahn is indeed Indian. His mother is the primary geneticist of the Chrysalis project. Also, in the books on the Eugenics wars, the ethnicities of the genetically augmented humsn was diverse. It was all part of the plan. They weren't trying for blond haired and blue eyed Aryans. The TV series, however, was a product of its times and used primarily caucasian actors. I didn't get a chance to see the Enterprise run with the augments, so I can't speak of them. Gary Seven does indeed play a central role in the Eugenics War series.

Torqumada
 
Regarding Col Green: According to another book, he was a contemporary of Zefram Chochrane and chased him across space and time to get revenge on him and steal the plans for the ultimate weapon a warp bomb. It dies several generations worth of Star Trek history. It was very interesting, but I don't remember all of the details at the moment.

Torqumada
 
I'd always understood the EUgenic Wars and WWIII to be different conflicts, happening in the 1990s and the 2050s respectivly. As to why the Eugenics Wars weren't called WWIII although they obviously were of a scope where that would be justified, I'm sure the media just thought it sounded better.
 
Jason said:
Of course Khan isn't European or American, there is a comment about him being Indian I'm sure (ok, being petty and going on memories of the episode which I haven't seen for a few years). The problem I've always had with the whole thing is the way Spock describes the Eugenics War, there is a bit where Spock does some research and says he's worked out some 30 or 40 supermen went missing after the end of the Eugenics War, Kirk says something like that's not in the history books, Spock replies would you want to tell war weary countries that they might still be out there. I am sure there is also a bit where Kirk comments on populations being bombed out of existance in the war. I was always left with the impression that the war ended with Khan and Co being driven out and WW3 was seperate.
So, if it was such a major war, how comes it didn't end up as WW3? It's a prob I never managed to answer for myself, that's what bugs me.


Khan is definitely Indian as he is mentioned as being a Sikh in Space Seed but the other Augments mentioned and seen in Space Seed,Wrath of Khan and the Enterprise episodes are depicted as being a diverse lot with lots of European -American representation and finally even black representation in the Enterprise episodes.As far as the description of the Eugenics War by Spock it clearly paints a picture of an worldwide ,overt conflcit in the 1990's that had some unknown factual elements regarding things like the fate of Khan and other Augments in the historical record-ie OTL do we know for certain what happened to Hitler? First Contact and Enterprise establish the fact that WW3 was a seperate,21st century nuclear conflict which in my pet theory involved some of the Third World countries (Eastern Coalition or ECON) that the Augments controlled in the 1990's vs the West.
 

Roedecker

Banned
Here is the description of the Chrysalis Project's motives and methods:

The Chrysalis Project was an ambitious eugenics program conducted by a group of scientists trying to create a new, artificially improved breed of men and women: smarter, faster, stronger than ordinary human beings, a super-race to take command of the entire planet.

Designed and facilitated by a group of world-renowned geneticists and biochemists, the top-secret Chrysalis Project involved creating human embryos genetically superior to those created through the random genetic shuffling of ordinary reproduction using techniques that appeared to be far beyond what humans were capable of at the time.

Like so many others of their generation, the members of the Chrysalis Project nurtured dreams of making the world a better place. They believed, however, that a better world was impossible without better people to live in it. Democracy, socialism, psychiatry, religion... all these avenues to Utopia inevitably run into the inherent limitations of human nature, at least as we presently know it. Only by improving the human species itself, through controlled genetic manipulation, can we ever hope to overcome the ills that have perpetually plagued the peoples of the world: poverty, war, disease, and so on.

They believed we cannot can we depend on environment and heredity to produce such individuals as Albert Einstein or Martin Luther King, Jr. at random. At Chrysalis, they were taking chance out of the equation, producing an entire generation of superior individuals, capable of completely transforming civilization as we know it.

The Chrysalis Project endeavored to give their genetically enhanced creations full rein of the planet. To do so, the engineers of this project intended to release a bacterium. A genetically modified streptococcus, to be precise, capable of devouring soft tissue at an accelerated rate. In order to infect the worlds populous, they procured a quantity of ICBM missiles equipped with specialized biowarheads to use as implementation vehicles from moles in the Soviet germ warfare program, Biopreparat.

Free from any governments authority, Chrysalis was a private consortium that answered to no one, having complete autonomy. Chrysalis had its headquarters located in the Thar Desert, thanks to its remote location, the Chrysalis endeavor was completely isolated. The main complex was hidden beneath the ruins of an ancient Rajput fort.

The genetic engineering process began by inducing "superovulation" in female volunteers (which included all of the female scientists). The large and diverse assortment of eggs yielded by this procedure had then been inseminated artificially and allowed to incubate at a temperature of precisely thirty-seven degrees centigrade, i.e., body temperature. Following fertilization, the eggs had been carefully examined for a wide variety of genetic defects or abnormalities, with all unsuitable eggs immediately terminated and disposed of. It was not enough to simply produce outstanding examples of conventional humanity; the Chrysalis Project aspired to create a new breed of man and woman, markedly superior to any who had existed before. To do so required adding new information and instructions to the genetic blueprint encoded in each egg's DNA.

The brilliant scientists at Chrysalis had learned how to clone multiple copies of each surviving egg, thus increasing the odds of successful hybridization later on. Conventional science maintained that a fertilized egg could only be cloned twice before expiring, yet Dr. Sarina Kaur, the director of Chrysalis, had developed a technique for producing dozens of identical copies of a single egg. That was the key; invariably, applied genetics involved a certain degree of trial and error, heredity being fundamentally a matter of probabilities. But by generating so many ideal eggs to work with, the chances of achieving the desired genetic result increased dramatically, especially when the scientists of the project knew exactly what modifications they wanted to make to the standard human genome.

Fragments of specialized DNA, built from scratch from the appropriate amino acids, then multiplied by polymerase chain reactions, were spliced into bacterial plasmids, which acted as vectors to transmit the recombinant genes to the nucleus of the egg itself. Not every plasmid-borne gene successfully infiltrated the egg's DNA, let alone at precisely the right spot in the sequence of codons, but that's what all those multiple; copies were for. Enough hybridized eggs made it through the secondary screening process to provide a suitable number of samples for the next round of genetic augmentation.

In all, the process involved the introduction of seven distinct improvements to the basic human genotype. One such modification accelerated the formation of critical neural pathways, thus increasing intelligence. Another slight resequencing of the base pairs of a specific human gene had been found to substantially improve the efficiency of the lungs and respiratory system, while the addition of a single new gene, adapted from one located in the DNA of the African gorilla, caused an increase in muscular density and resilience. The heart valve action of the genetically engineered children would have twice the power of an average human, and their immune system would be enhanced. The other two improvements are not mentioned in Cox's books.
 
If we're going to go with the idea of the Star Trek TL being an ATL (which I firmly agree with), I think we need a specific POD. Zefram Cochrane's discovery of warp drive didn't come out of nowhere, you know; there had to have been theory for him to draw on, even if that theory was scoffed at by "mainstream" scientists. Maybe Einstein (or some other physicist) does some theoretical work in the early 20th century that shows that FTL travel is, in fact, possible? Or, if you don't like that idea, I propose that Nazi Germany might get further with rocketry in the Star Trek TL than it did in OTL (which also fits with the idea of a longer WWII, and provides a jumping-off point for more active space programs).

If Nazi Germany survives a little longer (to the end of 1945/beginning of 1946) in the Star Trek TL, the obvious conjecture is that they do better on the Eastern Front. If the Soviet Union comes out of the war weaker, maybe the Germans do succeed in taking Moscow in 1941; this wouldn't lead to the fall of the USSR, but might possibly result in Stalin's overthrow. Perhaps a Red Army junta under Zhukov takes over. The USSR remains Communist, but it's been so badly beat up by the Germans that it's just not as capable of adventures outside the country as it was in OTL. The Soviets might, if we follow your ideas, settle for a neutralist Eastern Europe rather than organizing the Warsaw Pact, though I imagine they'd still insist on occupying their zone of Germany, so maybe East Germany is created so we might still have a Berlin Wall.

We know from "Assignment: Earth" that the 1950's/1960's space race was considerably more militarized in the Star Trek TL than ours. If this TL's Soviet Union is more insular, I can see where the Kremlin would be even more focused on protecting its aerospace, going so far as to put up orbiting weapons platforms (maybe in geosynchronous orbit above the USSR?) I don't think we should forget the events of "Tomorrow Is Yesterday" (or was it "Yesterday Is Tomorrow"?) either. It's quite possible that Kirk & Co. forget something, or Christopher somehow remembers something, that provides another link in the chain that leads to Cochrane's warp drive. Not to mention that his son participated in a key exploration mission in the early 21st century. Oh, and BTW; I think McKinley AFB = Vandenberg AFB. That means, if they're geographically and structurally identical (with the exception, of course, of Saturn V launch facilities) that Arthur Vandenberg probably never did anything sufficiently important in the Star Trek TL to warrant having an installation named after him.

Overall, space is going to be a much busier place in the Star Trek TL than OTL during their 20th Century. The Ares program may have been called off, but I imagine there'll be a lot more activity in Earth orbit and on and around the Moon, possibly even permanent bases there by the end of the century. It's pretty plain, from the example of the DY-100, that by the last decade of the 20th century, people on Earth are thinking so seriously about long-range exploration of the Solar System and even nearby systems that they're willing to go to the trouble and expense of developing prototype sleeper ships. I think that this may mean that somebody will have developed conclusive evidence that habitable planets are present in nearby solar systems (is it canon that Alpha Centauri has inhabitable planets in its system? I think it is, but I might be mistaken. If so, maybe somebody discovers a Class-M planet there. Perhaps with the Hubble Telescope or its STTL equivalent?) If humanity knows for a fact that there are other worlds nearby, in cosmic terms, where we could live, that would provide a considerable boost to space exploration.

If the TL has already diverged significantly by, say, 1960, it's even possible that if JFK wins the Presidency, he isn't assassinated but goes on to serve at least one full term. That would change U.S. politics distinctly thereafter, to the extent that Bill Clinton might never even become President, or, alternately, might be elected in 1988 (making him President when the Eugenics Wars break out!)

All just somewhat random thoughts; feel free to shoot them down if you please. :)

-Joe-
 
If we're going to go with the idea of the Star Trek TL being an ATL (which I firmly agree with), I think we need a specific POD. Zefram Cochrane's discovery of warp drive didn't come out of nowhere, you know; there had to have been theory for him to draw on, even if that theory was scoffed at by "mainstream" scientists. Maybe Einstein (or some other physicist) does some theoretical work in the early 20th century that shows that FTL travel is, in fact, possible? Or, if you don't like that idea, I propose that Nazi Germany might get further with rocketry in the Star Trek TL than it did in OTL (which also fits with the idea of a longer WWII, and provides a jumping-off point for more active space programs).

If Nazi Germany survives a little longer (to the end of 1945/beginning of 1946) in the Star Trek TL, the obvious conjecture is that they do better on the Eastern Front. If the Soviet Union comes out of the war weaker, maybe the Germans do succeed in taking Moscow in 1941; this wouldn't lead to the fall of the USSR, but might possibly result in Stalin's overthrow. Perhaps a Red Army junta under Zhukov takes over. The USSR remains Communist, but it's been so badly beat up by the Germans that it's just not as capable of adventures outside the country as it was in OTL. The Soviets might, if we follow your ideas, settle for a neutralist Eastern Europe rather than organizing the Warsaw Pact, though I imagine they'd still insist on occupying their zone of Germany, so maybe East Germany is created so we might still have a Berlin Wall.

We know from "Assignment: Earth" that the 1950's/1960's space race was considerably more militarized in the Star Trek TL than ours. If this TL's Soviet Union is more insular, I can see where the Kremlin would be even more focused on protecting its aerospace, going so far as to put up orbiting weapons platforms (maybe in geosynchronous orbit above the USSR?) I don't think we should forget the events of "Tomorrow Is Yesterday" (or was it "Yesterday Is Tomorrow"?) either. It's quite possible that Kirk & Co. forget something, or Christopher somehow remembers something, that provides another link in the chain that leads to Cochrane's warp drive. Not to mention that his son participated in a key exploration mission in the early 21st century. Oh, and BTW; I think McKinley AFB = Vandenberg AFB. That means, if they're geographically and structurally identical (with the exception, of course, of Saturn V launch facilities) that Arthur Vandenberg probably never did anything sufficiently important in the Star Trek TL to warrant having an installation named after him.

Overall, space is going to be a much busier place in the Star Trek TL than OTL during their 20th Century. The Ares program may have been called off, but I imagine there'll be a lot more activity in Earth orbit and on and around the Moon, possibly even permanent bases there by the end of the century. It's pretty plain, from the example of the DY-100, that by the last decade of the 20th century, people on Earth are thinking so seriously about long-range exploration of the Solar System and even nearby systems that they're willing to go to the trouble and expense of developing prototype sleeper ships. I think that this may mean that somebody will have developed conclusive evidence that habitable planets are present in nearby solar systems (is it canon that Alpha Centauri has inhabitable planets in its system? I think it is, but I might be mistaken. If so, maybe somebody discovers a Class-M planet there. Perhaps with the Hubble Telescope or its STTL equivalent?) If humanity knows for a fact that there are other worlds nearby, in cosmic terms, where we could live, that would provide a considerable boost to space exploration.

If the TL has already diverged significantly by, say, 1960, it's even possible that if JFK wins the Presidency, he isn't assassinated but goes on to serve at least one full term. That would change U.S. politics distinctly thereafter, to the extent that Bill Clinton might never even become President, or, alternately, might be elected in 1988 (making him President when the Eugenics Wars break out!)

All just somewhat random thoughts; feel free to shoot them down if you please. :)

-Joe-


I pretty much agree with and am intrigued by all of this. I'd love to see a timeline for it.
 
I just thought of something else: it could be that, if the Soviet Union follows a more moderate (comparatively speaking) path in the 20th century of the STTL, the Sino-Soviet split could occur from the get-go, with even more of an ideological component. This would allow for a Korean War, with North Korea being backed by the PRC from the beginning, which would allow your scenario of Minsei's China overrunning South Korea early on in the Eugenics Wars.

In fact, the 1945/6-1992 world of the STTL could be a genuinely multipolar one, with several competing power centers (the US/UK, the USSR, the PRC, and a western European alliance). If everyone had a space program of some kind going, that would allow for the militarized space race we see in "Assignment: Earth".

I'm thinking now about when and where the A-bomb first gets used. If the Manhattan Project proceeds as OTL, there's going to be hot debate about whether to use it first against Germany or Japan, because in this case, Germany is still in the fight, though by now probably up against the wall (the overall strategic situation in 7/45 of STTL probably looks more like 1/45 of OTL). It's possible that technical delays in the Project could put off the deployment of the A-bomb until 1946 (as in the "Lighter than a Feather" thread).

-Joe-
 
OK, here's the start of the timeline for what I think the STTL's alternate 20th Century might look like. This is the first time I've ever done anything like this! I'm only up to the end of 1945 so far; I don't know who to use the A-bomb against first, Germany or Japan...

Late 19th/early 20th centuries - Gregor Mendel's pioneering work in genetics attracts even more interest than it did OTL. Some prominent scientists and sociologists begin serious speculation about the possibility of improving the human race through selective breeding. Very quietly (we're still in the Victorian era when the TL begins, after all) a program is organized where people with desirable characteristics - exceptional intelligence, strength, physical attractiveness, etc. - are mated to each other.

Circa 1920 - Albert Einstein (or some other prominent physicist of the time - I'm open to suggestions) is doing some work on the nature of space-time, when he is thunderstruck to find that, if his calculations are correct, it is in fact theoretically possible to evade the speed-of-light barrier by "warping" space, thus making it possible to travel interstellar distances in weeks or months instead of plodding along at a fraction of c. Einstein doesn't release these findings publicly, but discusses them with colleagues he particularly trusts.

1932 - Edith Keeler, a well-known social worker, is killed in a tragic accident when she is hit by an automobile while crossing a street in downtown New York. The police search for two witnesses, a man who was known to be keeping company with Keeler and his vaguely Oriental-looking friend (who is noticeable because of the knit cap he always wears), but they seem to have literally vanished from the face of the earth.

1941 - Hitler decides to screen the shattered Soviet forces in the Ukraine with Army Group South instead of wheeling south to mop them up, choosing to go straight for Moscow. Guderian's Panzers smash into the city just as the snows begin to fall. In the chaos of evacuation to Kubyshev, Stalin is overthrown by Beria, who is himself then deposed and executed by a junta led by Zhukov and Molotov. Zhukov stabilizes the line east of Moscow with troops brought west from Siberia. On Dec. 7th, Japan conducts its Pearl Harbor raid and the US enters the war.

1942 - Hitler vacillates for weeks about whether to order von Paulus to stand fast in Stalingrad or evacuate. Finally, he decides on evacuation and orders von Manstein to cover the Sixth Army as it fights its way out. The fighting is brutal, but the Sixth Army comes out still a coherent fighting unit. In the meantime, German research on rocketry has been proceeding apace. Von Braun has, in what spare time he has, begun noodling around with the problem of manned spaceflight. He also pushes study on the A-9/A-10 multistage rocket in addition to the V-1 and V-2. On another front, other German scientists are conducting researches into eugenics under Nazi Party auspices. The ostensible purpose is to breed super-Aryans, but some of the eugenicists have kept very clandestine contacts with colleagues in the West and are passing their findings to them.

1943-46: Due to various technical problems, the Manhattan Project experiences delays which make a finished nuclear weapon unavailable until late 1945.

The Soviets, under the Zhukov/Molotov junta, grind westward, pushing the fascists back inch by inch. The Germans choose to go on the defensive instead of attacking at the Kursk salient, and the resulting fight, while a narrow tactical victory for the Soviets, leaves their best armored units shattered, and the Germans are able to withdraw into more compact defensive lines. No salient forms in the Army Group Center area that the Soviets can exploit. The Red Army, all the same, keeps grinding relentlessly west, with copious Lend-Lease aid from the US.

The Pacific War, North Africa and Italy proceed much as OTL. Preparations for Overlord, the invasion of Normandy, begin in earnest.

On June 6, 1944, Operation Overlord begins as US, British and Canadian forces storm ashore at five beaches in Normandy. However, the Germans have a new weapon ready. Several dozen V-1 flying bombs are launched against the narrow beachheads. While not very accurate at all, they cause a lot of consternation in the crowded quarters. Coupled with extremely stiff German resistance, discretion is decided the better part of valor and Omaha Beach is evacuated. However, Utah Beach and the Anglo-Canadian beachheads (Gold, Juno and Sword) hold on, and the Allies have their Normandy lodgement, though just by the bare skin of their teeth.

As 1944 proceeds, the Western Allies and Soviets claw forward against the Third Reich from west and east. The Germans conduct tenacious and tactically brilliant defensive operations on both fronts, slowing the advance down to a crawl almost at World War I speeds. V-1 and V-2 missiles rain down on military and civilian targets on both fronts. The Americans put everything they can into the Manhattan Project, which is now seen as being their best chance to break the Third Reich, but technical obstacles are proving stubbornly difficult to overcome.

In late 1945, as the front in Europe comes to a stalemate at the frontiers of Germany, the US finally launches Operation Olympic, the invasion of Kyushu.

Near the end of 1945, though, everything finally comes together. The Trinity test is carried out successfully at Alamogordo, New Mexico, on December 10, 1945. A fierce debate immediately follows as to whether to use the atomic bomb first against Germany or Japan.

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It may not be nearly as realistic as some other TL's, but this is, after all, Star Trek's backstory we're talking about. :) As you can see, WWII in Europe has already diverged significantly from OTL. Among other things, what I'm trying to do here is exhaust the Soviets to the degree that they can't exert the same degree of control over the Eastern European nations that they did OTL. If WWII in Europe lasts longer, the reforming West European governments may also be able to raise more troops to fight the Germans, which will have effects down the line as western Europe becomes an independent power center after the war.

A key date I need: when was Khan born? More to come soon as soon as I think it up!

-Joe-
 
OK, here's the start of the timeline for what I think the STTL's alternate 20th Century might look like. This is the first time I've ever done anything like this! I'm only up to the end of 1945 so far; I don't know who to use the A-bomb against first, Germany or Japan...

Late 19th/early 20th centuries - Gregor Mendel's pioneering work in genetics attracts even more interest than it did OTL. Some prominent scientists and sociologists begin serious speculation about the possibility of improving the human race through selective breeding. Very quietly (we're still in the Victorian era when the TL begins, after all) a program is organized where people with desirable characteristics - exceptional intelligence, strength, physical attractiveness, etc. - are mated to each other.

Circa 1920 - Albert Einstein (or some other prominent physicist of the time - I'm open to suggestions) is doing some work on the nature of space-time, when he is thunderstruck to find that, if his calculations are correct, it is in fact theoretically possible to evade the speed-of-light barrier by "warping" space, thus making it possible to travel interstellar distances in weeks or months instead of plodding along at a fraction of c. Einstein doesn't release these findings publicly, but discusses them with colleagues he particularly trusts.

1932 - Edith Keeler, a well-known social worker, is killed in a tragic accident when she is hit by an automobile while crossing a street in downtown New York. The police search for two witnesses, a man who was known to be keeping company with Keeler and his vaguely Oriental-looking friend (who is noticeable because of the knit cap he always wears), but they seem to have literally vanished from the face of the earth.

1941 - Hitler decides to screen the shattered Soviet forces in the Ukraine with Army Group South instead of wheeling south to mop them up, choosing to go straight for Moscow. Guderian's Panzers smash into the city just as the snows begin to fall. In the chaos of evacuation to Kubyshev, Stalin is overthrown by Beria, who is himself then deposed and executed by a junta led by Zhukov and Molotov. Zhukov stabilizes the line east of Moscow with troops brought west from Siberia. On Dec. 7th, Japan conducts its Pearl Harbor raid and the US enters the war.

1942 - Hitler vacillates for weeks about whether to order von Paulus to stand fast in Stalingrad or evacuate. Finally, he decides on evacuation and orders von Manstein to cover the Sixth Army as it fights its way out. The fighting is brutal, but the Sixth Army comes out still a coherent fighting unit. In the meantime, German research on rocketry has been proceeding apace. Von Braun has, in what spare time he has, begun noodling around with the problem of manned spaceflight. He also pushes study on the A-9/A-10 multistage rocket in addition to the V-1 and V-2. On another front, other German scientists are conducting researches into eugenics under Nazi Party auspices. The ostensible purpose is to breed super-Aryans, but some of the eugenicists have kept very clandestine contacts with colleagues in the West and are passing their findings to them.

1943-46: Due to various technical problems, the Manhattan Project experiences delays which make a finished nuclear weapon unavailable until late 1945.

The Soviets, under the Zhukov/Molotov junta, grind westward, pushing the fascists back inch by inch. The Germans choose to go on the defensive instead of attacking at the Kursk salient, and the resulting fight, while a narrow tactical victory for the Soviets, leaves their best armored units shattered, and the Germans are able to withdraw into more compact defensive lines. No salient forms in the Army Group Center area that the Soviets can exploit. The Red Army, all the same, keeps grinding relentlessly west, with copious Lend-Lease aid from the US.

The Pacific War, North Africa and Italy proceed much as OTL. Preparations for Overlord, the invasion of Normandy, begin in earnest.

On June 6, 1944, Operation Overlord begins as US, British and Canadian forces storm ashore at five beaches in Normandy. However, the Germans have a new weapon ready. Several dozen V-1 flying bombs are launched against the narrow beachheads. While not very accurate at all, they cause a lot of consternation in the crowded quarters. Coupled with extremely stiff German resistance, discretion is decided the better part of valor and Omaha Beach is evacuated. However, Utah Beach and the Anglo-Canadian beachheads (Gold, Juno and Sword) hold on, and the Allies have their Normandy lodgement, though just by the bare skin of their teeth.

As 1944 proceeds, the Western Allies and Soviets claw forward against the Third Reich from west and east. The Germans conduct tenacious and tactically brilliant defensive operations on both fronts, slowing the advance down to a crawl almost at World War I speeds. V-1 and V-2 missiles rain down on military and civilian targets on both fronts. The Americans put everything they can into the Manhattan Project, which is now seen as being their best chance to break the Third Reich, but technical obstacles are proving stubbornly difficult to overcome.

In late 1945, as the front in Europe comes to a stalemate at the frontiers of Germany, the US finally launches Operation Olympic, the invasion of Kyushu.

Near the end of 1945, though, everything finally comes together. The Trinity test is carried out successfully at Alamogordo, New Mexico, on December 10, 1945. A fierce debate immediately follows as to whether to use the atomic bomb first against Germany or Japan.

*************************

It may not be nearly as realistic as some other TL's, but this is, after all, Star Trek's backstory we're talking about. :) As you can see, WWII in Europe has already diverged significantly from OTL. Among other things, what I'm trying to do here is exhaust the Soviets to the degree that they can't exert the same degree of control over the Eastern European nations that they did OTL. If WWII in Europe lasts longer, the reforming West European governments may also be able to raise more troops to fight the Germans, which will have effects down the line as western Europe becomes an independent power center after the war.

A key date I need: when was Khan born? More to come soon as soon as I think it up!

-Joe-

This is a great start.I love your ideas about this issue. I have Khan as being born in 1961 in my TL. If you are going to have the Eugenics Wars as being from 1992-1996 most of the Supermen are in their late 20's-30's meaning they would have been born in 1960's to 1970's. Sure they could have developed alot quicker if they were genetically enginerred but if we want to make them part of an international plot hatched in the 1950's and realized in the 1990's it makes sense to take more time for them to develop. I am reallly facinated by the idea of the Eugenics Wars being an outgrowth of WW2 in the Star Trek TL.Of course ,WW3 in the Star Trek TL was likely,at least in part,to be an outgrowth of the Eugenics Wars.
 
As you can see from the timeline, the international conspiracy of eugenicists was already in effect by World War II; this is why German scientists were passing their findings back to their colleagues in the West. The idea is that the first serious discussions happened around the beginning of the 20th Century, so if the first pairs of candidates were bred to each other then - and breeding is exactly what it would have been, just as if you were trying to raise a prize thoroughbred - the first couple of generations (assuming a generation being about 20 years) would already have come by circa 1945, and the third generation would be being conceived and born. Khan Noonian Singh would be part of, I think, the 4th generation of the project, by which time dramatic results would already have been seen with his parents' generation.

I don't know if this would fit with canon, but maybe some technology is found in the Ferengi craft that crash-lands at Roswell that gets into the hands of the eugenicists, so that we do have at least some genetic engineering after all in the generation that produced Khan. At the very least, maybe some advanced computer technology survived.

I still need to figure out who gets hit with the A-bomb first, Germany or Japan. Once I work that out, I can continue with the timeline sometime later this week. I do plan World War II to end in early 1946, about five months or so later than historical (counting from either 8/15/45 or 9/1/45).

One other question I need to figure out is how much further the Holocaust gets. If we want to go with the idealism of ST:TOS, one way we could proceed is to have the death-camp system break down during 1945 under the impact of Allied bombing, particularly of the railroads that took victims to their deaths. Again, not real likely, I know, but I want to get a tradition of "do the right thing" going that leads to James T. Kirk... :)

-Joe-
-Joe-
 
Hello everyone! First time poster, though...curiously enough, I am not unfamiliar with the subject of this thread.

Not in the slightest. I am the newsgroup poster formerly known as MarinerJRMB @ MCHSI.com (Jay and Ruth) and I was responsible for the initial challenge which, 4 years later, is still being discussed! Oddly enough, I was doing a google on Stavos Keneclius when I came upon reference to that group post, and here we are in 2007 still talking about it.

Well, I am here to say that I am STILL in search of that ideal timeline that explain the rise and fall of Khan and the Eugenics 'supermen' and how the Eugenics Wars/WWIII lead to the rise and fall of Colonel Green and further beyond into the realm of interstellar conflict (i.e. the Earth-Kzin Wars). What a pleasant surprise indeed to find this forum.

That being said, I believe I have a few items to add to the discussion. In the episode "Space Seed", Spock clearly states that the "the mid-1990s was the era of your last so-called world war". Further along in the episode, he mentions the 'wars to end tyranny'. Considering the state of international affairs in our own continuum, what a spooky set coincidences!

Nevertheless, that little throw-away line might be the key to literally everything that happens next. In the fanon reference guide "The USS Enterprise Officers Manual" (1980) by Geoff Mandel, there is a fragmentary "copy" of a New York Times article which mentions a date for when the eugenics supermen are introduced publicly for the first time, 22 Sept 1990. It goes on to mention a bit of the backstory. The entire sequence of events came about when the "UN Committee on Eugenics Research" initated a secretive program to study and develop eugenically-bred humans. This UN-sanctioned committee was chaired by none other than Stavos Keneclius with research facilities being established in various third world nations (which would seem to support a few contentions offered earlier in this thread).

We know fairly clearly, based on actual show dialog, that the Eugenics wars were quite overt in nature and not at all the subject of some "secret wars" supported by the Cox novels (an effort to make clearly derivative history FIT with real-time events). This further supports the theory that Star Trek future history is decidely derivative and the sequence of events very much the part of an alternate timeline.

The USS Enterprise Officers Manual (EOM) addds further to what might have occured. In 1994, it mentions that the United Nations Peace Forces (UNPF) was established and that after the 2030s, it replaced all national armed forces and militias after a conflict the EOM calls the 'clone war'. Now, would it not be interesting to tie in Spock's statement concering the 'wars to end tyranny' with the establishment of the UNPF, which is in effect, the first world army on planet Earth? Myself, I see a situation where the flow of history runs nearly parallel with our own (with the US-led 'wars on terror') with the UN leading the way. I do not accept the idea that perhaps the UN folded under pressure when the Khanate was formed and the events which followed. I DO see a situation where the UN "grows some bollocks" and takes a lead in the world stage; actually doing what its Charter says it should and could do. So instead of a single "cowboy" nation leading a global "war on terror", we have the UN and its Peace Forces conducted the wars to End Tyranny beginning in 1994.

The effort lead in whole or in part to the collapse of the Khanate and the eugenics supermen by 1996, however I do not believe the global campaign ended there. Following the censure and subsequent exile of Keneclius and his ilk, I could see emboldened UN conducting at least three years of "mopping up", that is the neutralizing of petty dictatorships and "copy-cat" authoritarian regimes which might arise out of the vacuum that was the Great Khanate. Another fanon reference, the Star Fleet Medical Reference Manual, suggests that a second 'dark ages' fell over much of planet Earth and it lasted until at least 2000. What was left of the "third world" would be the epicenter of the period of hardship.

It was out of the vacuum that was the Khanate that the seeds for the "Eastern Coalition of Nations" as mentioned in STFC were sewn and the way paved for Colonel Edward Featherstone Green. But before we tackle THAT bit of history, I would like to see what you guys think.

Good discussion all! I'm very glad I found this little corner of the net.
 
Well the Republicans were able to overlook the Yugoslavian Civil War, the Somalian Humanitarian Disaster, the Sudan Civil War, teh Iraqi slaughter of Kurdish rebels, not to mention major atrocities by the People's Republic of China during the 1992 election. Maybe in the ATL, the Republicans in the ATL see the takeover, merely as a another Third World humanitarian disaster caused by the fall of the Soviet Union. As long as they don't get their hands on nuclear weapons or any major strategic natural resources, the basic American concensus is ,"Who cares?"

Timmy811- As for NATO and the EU, just consider the Yugoslavian Civil War, the Sudanese Civil War, the Somalian Human Relief Disaster, et.al....

And this point very nicely supports my own conjecture that much of the "western" world ignored the gathering plight in the East and it was this indifference to the extreme that led to the establishment of the United Nations Peace Forces in 1994 and it's merger with NATO after January 1995.
 
THREAD TIMELINE COMPILATION

I have compiled all of the dates provided in this thread into a single timeline for a quick and easy overview of "what we know". . .

1950-1960s


Project Chrysalis, a secretive (or UN Committee for Eugenics Research?) group of scientists (not unlike the Chrysalis in the "eugenics war" books), develops about 100 genetically engineered children of all racial and cultural groups, using bases located largely in third world countries.


1959


Khan Noonian Singh is born at secret eugenics compound in Agar, India (EOM).


1973


20 January

Richard Nixon's second inauguration speech introduces the Ares Program, a potential manned mission to Mars.


1974


July

Astronauts of Apollo 20 discover what is now known to be a crashed Preserver space vehicle at the exact center of Crater Copernicus, which the mission had been sent to study. The vehicle was barely recognizable due to the extent of the impact damage and subsequent explosions, but some equipment was salvageable. This entire incident is covered up well into the 22nd century. Retro-engineering of one particular device would lead to a method of generating artificial gravity in space vessels and facilities by 1984 after an intense period of study. The artificial gravity breakthrough would also lead to a feasible Inertial Dampening system that would in time allow for greater vehicle velocities approaching .25c by 2018 (Capt_Jason).


1976


Khan Noonien Singh completes education in engineering and aeronautics, and develops extensive experience in specialized military combat and strategic training (Capt_Jason).


1979


After Ares I, a test mission that made Martian orbit but did not land, Congress cancels the program due to a fiscal crisis. (A follow-on mission, Harmony, will send humans to the red planet in 1984 (Capt_Jason/Aridas Sofia)).


1991


A young charismatic man named Khan Noonien Singh is elected to India's parliament.


20 October


General Muhammed Hassan's Revolutionary Islamic Genesis Movement overthrows Ayatollah Khatami in Iran. He begins mass genocide of native Turks, Assyrians, Armenians, Christians, and Zoroastrians in his country.


1992


6 May


Saddam Hussein's Iraq declares "total union" with Iran. Later historians would compare this with Anschluss, the union of Nazi Germany and Austria in 1936.


7 September

This is the date that has come to be accepted as the day the Eugenics Wars began.China ,under the leadership of a eugenic superman Chairman Hikaru Minsei,attacked Taiwan with the stated goal of bringing order and evoultion to its most important "lost" province.

When Minsei's China attacks Taiwan, it simultaneously annexes Hong Kong and Macao.


1993


20 April


On this day 41 African,Asian and Middle Eastern nations lead by the young eugenic supermen formed the Great Khanate of Nations with Khan Noonien Singh of India as the titular leader.The experience of the people of these nations varied wildly from the essentially peaceful rule of Khan in India to the food rationing and forced selective breeding in Minsei's China to outright genocidal killings in General Muhammad Hasan's Iran.

Eugenics 'supermen' simultaneously seize power in over forty nations on Earth ("Space Seed")


September 28


The Great Khanate attacks Australia and New Zealand with the stated goal of" bringing genetic order to the West". Great Britain, South Africa and Japan declare war on the Great Khanate the following day.


29 October


Russia declares war on the Khanate after they are found to support a Chechen rebellion.


1994


12 January


Dijibouti is conquered by the Khanate, cutting off all sea-born access to Ethiopia to attempt to starve the nation into submission.


15 January


The United Nations organization passes a unilateral resolution to found the first global armed forces unit on Earth, the United Nations Peace Forces. The UNPF soon begins the 'wars to end tyranny'; the first global campaign ever undertaken to rid Earth of tyranny and dictatorships wherever they existed. (Capt_Jason). During this time, the cohesion among the eugenics supermen begins to break down and they soon begin to battle among themselves for supremacy even in the face of an ever-determined United Nations (Capt_Jason).


4 May


Shocked by the surrender of Australia and New Zealand the previous day France , Germany and Italy declare war on the Great Khanate.


1 June


President Bill Clinton reaffirms American neutrality in the widening war but declares that the United States will help supply the anti-Khanate alliance.


22 June


San Diego, California-USA, Tel Aviv Israel and Seoul, South Korea are hit by nuclear weapons as the Great Khanate declares war on those 3 nations. Those 3 nations and several others (including Canada and Mexico) follow suit the next day.


23 June


United States detonates nuclear weapons in New Delhi, Beijing, and Riyadh in retaliation for the nuclear strike on San Diego.


1995


January


NATO forces merge with UNPF commands (Capt_Jason/Harry Doddema)


14 May


The Battle of the Sea of Japan is fought. This battle is acknowledged as the turning point of the Eugenics Wars as the resulting allied victory fractures the Great Khanate into waring blocs of nations. The American aircraft carrrier U.S.S Enterprise-CVN 65 is destroyed in this battle.


5 July


Generals Norman Schwarzkopf and Tommy Franks lead U.S. forces in the invasion of the Arabian Peninsula. This ties up General Hassan's troops, allowing the Israelis to end the bloody Jerusalem siege and win the battle of Damascus on August 21.


26 December


In a chilly Christmas battle, the Russian army defeats Minsei's forces at the battle of Ulaanbataar.


1996


10 February


D-Day for British/Japanese/Filipino/American/Brazillian forces in the liberation of Taiwan.


29 July


Russian, American, Turkish, and Israeli forces meet to defeat Hassan's army in the battle of Tabriz.


2 September


Taiwan liberated. plans are drawn up for an invasion of Mainland China from the sea and through Korea, to assist the southward-moving Russian army. This plan is never activated after all Khanate forces surrender.


1 October


The Eugenics Wars end as Khan and his cadre of eugenic supermen are presumed killed in the battle to liberate Sydney, Australia- where they had held out in a last stand. Chairman Minsei signed an unconditional surrender document in Beijing, China.


November


Due to his unwillingness to help the "Democratic Alliance" in battle until San Diego was an atomic slag pile, Bill Clinton loses the election to Bob Dole and Colin Powell.


1997


27 September


Chairman Minsei, General Hasan and 59 other surviving eugenic supermen are put on trial at the International Military Tribunal in Paris ,France. This is the 1st such trial since the 1945-1948 trials of German and Japanese WWII leaders. Minsei, Hasan and the rest were convicted and executed for crimes against humanity and peace the following year.


1999


11 August


Historian and author Travis Mitchell claims in his seminal work- "The Eugenics War" that there is next to no evidence that Khan Singh and his clique of eugenic supermen were killed in the liberation of Sydney on October 1,1996. Mitchell puts forth the widely unaccepted theory that Khan and his people escaped death and punishment on a DY-100 vessel launched from a samll Indonesian island that same day.
 
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