Excuse me but is Krampus night/Oktoberfest is way more popular in the US? because of a higher German presence in America and plus their leadership between Germany and America
Timeline 191 - Random Events Post Second Great War
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I understand that occasionally double, even triple posting is understandable, e.g answering three different questions on unrelated issues. That doesn't apply to four different general questions, all to the same member, posted over a total of eleven minutes.
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Consider that in our own timeline that the US and Japan fought a completely vicious war for control of the Pacific, and at that time anti-Japanese sentiment ran high. However, just a quarter century or so later, or by the early 1970s, Japanese cars began outselling US cars in the American market. So, if Americans living in our universe are willing to buy cars from a nation they fought a bloody war with just a few years earlier, then why wouldn't Americans living in the 191 universe accept Japanese refugees? Especially if those Japanese were hard working, talked about honor, and hated communism.
Yes there is. Both the Americans and the European Confederation are completely terrified of the radical Trotskyists ruling the Russian Soviet Federative Socialist Republic, and just as in our timeline, military commanders are constantly watching for any sign that the RSFSR is preparing to launch an sunbomb attack against its enemies. Hollywood comedies as well as children's cartoons frequently portray bumbling villains with Slavic accents.
If you don't know them I'll provide some source and some vids to help you understand
https://www.britannica.com/topic/Krampus
Well, maybe some Americanized version of this might exist, but I don't think it would be allowed to get too wild, or too out-of-hand. Maybe in certain areas with larger German settler populations, but even then, probably wouldn't be the same as above.
Are they as brutal as OTL Gulags or RSFSR gulags are more humane prison system?
Italy lost all of its overseas possessions in the great reshuffling following the end of the Second Great War. Italy then spend the remainder of the twentieth century as member state within the European Confederation, with a few of its politicians rising to the highest levels of the EC government, including one EC Chancellor who originated from Milan. Although no longer the seat of a vast overseas empire, Italy still remained an important center for art, commerce, and automotive industry within the European Confederation.
The Trotskyist ruling over the RSFSR are far more radical than the Marxist-Leninist ruling over the USSR in our timeline. Therefore it is reasonable to assume that their methods would be more extreme in dealing with enemies of the state. However, one of the biggest blunders the RSFSR may have made during its existence, was to deport its dissidents to gulags in remote Alaska. One more than one occasion, these dissidents would escape from their work-camps, and flee into the wilderness. Those who managed to survive would meet up with other escapees, and before the officials in far off Moscow could realize what was happening, a full blown Marxist-Leninist movement fought to break Alaska away from the Trotskyist controlled government in European Russia. The Marxist-Leninist rebels in Alaska were unsuccessful in their endeavors to break away from Russia, and in the end their efforts only served to weaken Russia's hand on Alaska, and to give the Canadians a chance to claim the eastern half of the region.
Also, during the famous show trial of Flora Hamburger, one of the prosecutor's in the case holds up an issue of the New York Times depicting a Russian political prisoner whose mangled hands were horribly mangled during a torture session involving an industrial hydraulic press. The headline above the photos screams 'Russia Runs Red!'. The caption below the photo asks the question, 'Is this what your donations to the US Socialist Party helped pay for?'
What Alaska culture is about? because the longer Russkies present into the 20th century and the division between US & Soviet into the Cold War
That is difficult to say, but most likely it would be a mixture of Slavic, Siberian, and Native American cultures. One thing is certain, there would be far fewer people of Anglo-Saxon ancestry, but there might be a very small remnant population of people descended from French fur traders who used to do business with Native American tribes.
In the months immediately following the 1947 Revolution, the newly established government of the RSFSR has its hands full consolidating its power across Central Asia and Ukraine, and for the time being at least, the Russian population in Alaska is more or less left to its own devices, and for a brief period of it appears that the new government in Moscow is going to allow the people of Alaska some autonomy into how they govern themselves. The people in Alaska are aware that they are now supposed to be living under a dictatorship of the proletariat, but few seem to understand what that actually means, and it is left up to each town and village to decide how to implement the revolution on their own. However, by 1949, or so, party officials in Moscow become concerned that their particular brand of Marxism isn't being adhered to in the far off land of Alaska, so as a result, special political commissars are sent to Alaska in order to enforce the latest interpretations of Marxism. A bloody purge of sorts occurs, and when it finished the Trotskyists are firmly in control the local government.
Following the Alaskan Purge, Alaska was somewhat militarized and used as a springboard to instigate small mostly pin-prick attacks upon Western Canada. Over time, an Ice Curtain (similar to the Iron Curtain in Europe) developed along the border between Canada and Russian and Alaska. This led to the US having to station troops along the Alaskan border, along side Canadian troops, in order to help secure the border, and to watch for any possible signs of a Russian attack.
However, some later historians will argue that the communists were never really able to control all of Alaska, and many native groups such as the Inuit and the Aleuts could not be forced to give up their hunter gather life styles, in spite of many of them being sent to reeducation camps in Uzbekistan and Kazakhstan they were simply unwilling or unable to change, and edicts of far off Moscow meant nothing to them.
I said a Mixed-up of Slavic and Siberian cultures will dominate this Alaska as Natives Alaskan culture is reduced because as you said many of them were deported into Reeducation camp in Central Asia Soviet republics
I think this for you might help your TL191 verse about Soviet Alaska
What do these two videos of Alaska help your lore about Soviet Alaska in general, Cire?
Well, it is difficult to say, because we are talking about fictional scenarios, although I do find the idea of a rival Russian government existing in Alaska after the 1917 Revolution to be an interesting concept.
I guess that in my timeline the Russian Red Army is able to project power across the Bering Straight, and the Russians living in Alaska embrace the Revolution of 1947, even if they don't at first fully understand what it means. Also, in my timeline crude oil isn't nearly as valuable in our timeline, due to the use of synthetic fuels produced by algae, and somehow gold is overlooked at least until after the 1970s.
Oh! 😮 how about the video with Anchorage being OP City and how it really affect your scenario especially if the Russkies notice it's important geopolitical advantage
But you see, the goals of the Russian Soviet Federative Socialist Republic, in the 191 universe would have been different from those of the United State in our universe.
In our universe Alaska allowed the United States to project sea and air power throughout the entire Northern Pacific. However, in the 191 universe, the primary goal of the RSFSR is to export revolution. The RSFSR isn't really a major maritime power, especially in the Pacific, but they have stationed land and air forces in Alaska for the purpose of harassing Canada, and if their plans had gone as planned, then later the United States as well.
Also, given the fact that most of East Asia has fallen into the hands of the communists, there is very little air-travel between Europe and the Far East, thus no need for a major refueling point in Alaska. If someone wanted to fly from Bonn to Hiroshima for example ( a major city in the free republic of South Japan) then most likely they'd have a stopover in Los Angeles or San Francisco.
Another factor might be that fuel costs are much lower in this version of the 191 universe, and as a result, airlines are much less inclined to worry about every drop of fuel their airliners burn. A downside to this, however, is that since fuel costs are so low, no one worries much about fuel efficiency, and as a result, air-pollution and smog is much worse than it is in our universe.